Author Topic: Premier League games to be played on Friday nights from 2016-17 (Read 15052 times)

Studgotelli · « **Reply #120 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:13:44 pm »

Quote from: Adeemo on February 10, 2015, 05:09:20 pm

So what does it mean in terms of any differences to the current setup?

Sky get the 12.45 Saturday. BT now 5.30 is about it.

Statto Red · « **Reply #121 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:16:45 pm »

Quote from: Studgotelli on February 10, 2015, 05:13:44 pm

Sky get the 12.45 Saturday. BT now 5.30 is about it.

BT get some Saturday 12.45pm kickoffs, & Sunday 12pm kickoffs when there's a Sunday treble header.

Think Friday nights will be mainly involving teams playing in the Champions League the following Tuesday.

gazzam1963 · « **Reply #122 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:17:10 pm »

Quote from: Studgotelli on February 10, 2015, 05:11:51 pm

5.1 billion is an insane amount of money. Good that Sky have the majority I guess. BT are shite.

They certainly could ring fence a certain amount of the extra 2 billion to subsidise ticket prices as what always happens is agents know the extra cash is there and the players get it accordingly .

mjk · « **Reply #123 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:18:59 pm »

Sky will be showing Saturday 12:30, Sunday 13:30 and 16:00, Friday 8pm/Monday 8pm and bank holiday games, BT will be showing Saturday 17:30 and midweek games.

Yiannis · « **Reply #124 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:28:12 pm »

Rob Harris @RobHarris · 17m 17 minutes ago
The £5.136billion Sky and BT are paying for Premier League TV rights 2016-19 is a 70 percent increase on what they paid for 2013-16

Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC · 17m 17 minutes ago
In 1992-93, broadcasters paid £663,000 per game. In 2001-4, that rose £3.6m. In 2013, it was £6.53m pg. Now - £10.19m pg.

Good God!

My heart goes out to Sky who may now drop the Super Sunday slogan now they lost the Sunday lunchtime package.

AB LFC · « **Reply #125 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:30:41 pm »

Norwich made more in TV money than AC Milan. That's how stupid this money is becoming now.

lfc_col · « **Reply #126 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:31:44 pm »

Quote from: AB LFC on February 10, 2015, 05:30:41 pm

Norwich made more in TV money than AC Milan. That's how stupid this money is becoming now.

It's been stupid for a while and will be for along time yet by the looks of it

Jake · « **Reply #127 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:35:59 pm »

Ten million quid per game they're paying? Mental.

If this doesn't come off ticket prices then the whole thing can fuck off up it's own arse and I'm out.

Studgotelli · « **Reply #128 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:37:42 pm »

Quote from: Yiannis on February 10, 2015, 05:28:12 pm

Rob Harris @RobHarris · 17m 17 minutes ago
The £5.136billion Sky and BT are paying for Premier League TV rights 2016-19 is a 70 percent increase on what they paid for 2013-16

Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC · 17m 17 minutes ago
In 1992-93, broadcasters paid £663,000 per game. In 2001-4, that rose £3.6m. In 2013, it was £6.53m pg. Now - £10.19m pg.

Good God!

My heart goes out to Sky who may now drop the Super Sunday slogan now they lost the Sunday lunchtime package.

Nah they still have the 1.30 and 4pm Sunday slots so Super Sunday will remain.

At least they can get rid of that awful SNF with the live audience.

dave 5516 · « **Reply #129 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:38:45 pm »

Quote from: SamAteTheRedAcid on February 10, 2015, 03:42:47 pm

No, everyone's in too deep. But why Liverpool fans would ever subscribe to Sky just baffles me. It's the same money that funds that rag as far as I'm concerned. I know most people disagree but that's how I see it, it's the same puppetmaster holding the strings. Fuck em all. Of course, I'm too lazy to have done extensive research into absolutely everything he owns but I wouldn't buy the Times either.

Truth.

Trada · « **Reply #130 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:55:22 pm »

All this extra money at the very least they should use half of it per match to bring down prices my bet ticket prices will go up.

Greed breeds greed.

stevo7 · « **Reply #131 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:06:16 pm »

Quote from: SamAteTheRedAcid on February 10, 2015, 03:42:47 pm

No, everyone's in too deep. But why Liverpool fans would ever subscribe to Sky just baffles me. It's the same money that funds that rag as far as I'm concerned. I know most people disagree but that's how I see it, it's the same puppetmaster holding the strings. Fuck em all. Of course, I'm too lazy to have done extensive research into absolutely everything he owns but I wouldn't buy the Times either.

Too right mate, was offered all sorts free from Sky when they took over O2 broadband. Could of saved myself a packet. But Fuck Off Murdoch aint getting a shilling of me. Its either Anfield, Pub or a free stream.

Fiasco · « **Reply #132 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:07:42 pm »

Quote from: Le Jake on February 10, 2015, 05:35:59 pm

Ten million quid per game they're paying? Mental.

If this doesn't come off ticket prices then the whole thing can fuck off up it's own arse and I'm out.

It almost certainly won't. Probably the opposite. Greed knows no bounds.

Redman78 · « **Reply #133 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:10:15 pm »

Quote from: Trada on February 10, 2015, 05:55:22 pm

All this extra money at the very least they should use half of it per match to bring down prices my bet ticket prices will go up.

Greed breeds greed.

Yep, reckon your correct there..rich get richer an all that

swoopy · « **Reply #134 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:12:55 pm »

Wonder how much Sky Sports will be going up next year then

Trada · « **Reply #135 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:24:52 pm »

The FSF ‏@The_FSF 4m4 minutes ago

@GNev2 The increase in domestic rights alone = £40+ for every fan at every single game. Let that sink in!

Kashinoda · « **Reply #136 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:31:55 pm »

If more money is pumped back in to grass roots and (hopefully) cheaper ticket prices then this can only be a good thing.

There's nothing wrong with relegation fodder receiving more money than AC Milan, the model in the Premier League is actually very good and that's (arguably) what makes it more competitive than most.

I'd hate to have the Spanish model where Barcelona and Real Madrid hog all the rights and build massive squads, it's a joke.

Gods_Left_Boot · « **Reply #137 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:38:17 pm »

Quote from: AB LFC on February 10, 2015, 05:30:41 pm

Norwich made more in TV money than AC Milan. That's how stupid this money is becoming now.

Not really. For tv companies football is strictly a product. On the one hand you have a club in the most marketable and popular football league on the planet (no matter how small the club is) on the other hand you have a declining club in a decaying league nobody really cares about.

Skeeve · « **Reply #138 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:42:07 pm »

Quote from: AB LFC on February 10, 2015, 05:30:41 pm

Norwich made more in TV money than AC Milan. That's how stupid this money is becoming now.

Last season for coming 20th, Cardiff earned more from tv than anyone in Spain, Italy, Germany and France with the exception of the top 2 in Spain and the top 3 in Italy.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #139 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:45:01 pm »

Quote from: Skeeve on February 10, 2015, 06:42:07 pm

Last season for coming 20th, Cardiff earned more from tv than anyone in Spain, Italy, Germany and France with the exception of the top 2 in Spain and the top 3 in Italy.

Here's the full list of money:

Spain's deal is just ridiculous, crazy to think how utterly dominant top English teams would be if they took a similarly large % portion of the TV deal as barca and real do

El Denzel Pepito · « **Reply #140 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:53:32 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on February 10, 2015, 06:45:01 pm

Here's the full list of money:

Real and Barca with 140m each, fucking hell. Really is amazing how Atletico won the league with that much money being allocated to those two.

Smudgester · « **Reply #141 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:14:39 pm »

Quote from: Statto Red on February 10, 2015, 05:16:45 pm

BT get some Saturday 12.45pm kickoffs, & Sunday 12pm kickoffs when there's a Sunday treble header.

Think Friday nights will be mainly involving teams playing in the Champions League the following Tuesday.

According to the BBC article, BT Sport now only have Saturday 5:30 and Bank Holidays whilst Sky have everything else?? If that is true then that is a reduction in real terms for BT isn't it?

Elzar · « **Reply #142 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:21:00 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on February 10, 2015, 07:14:39 pm

According to the BBC article, BT Sport now only have Saturday 5:30 and Bank Holidays whilst Sky have everything else?? If that is true then that is a reduction in real terms for BT isn't it?

Package F: 6 midweek; 8 at Sat 12.30pm or Sat 5.30pm or Sun 12pm - BT
- 3 1st picks
- 7 2nd picks
- 4 4th picks

Package B: 28 at Sat 5.30pm - BT
- 9 1st picks
- 12 3rd picks
- 7 5th picks

It's not far off what they have at the minute.

Trada · « **Reply #143 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:23:40 pm »

And the over seas bidding isn't done yet and they are saying that maybe another 2 Billion.

Ziltoid · « **Reply #144 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:26:17 pm »

Sky have probably paid over the odds as BT took Champions league off them.

Trada · « **Reply #145 on:** February 10, 2015, 07:28:43 pm »

Quote from: Studgotelli on February 10, 2015, 05:11:51 pm

5.1 billion is an insane amount of money. Good that Sky have the majority I guess. BT are shite.

To think the Post office was valued at £3.3billion at launch that nearly two billion more for 3 years of tv rights insane.

BlackandWhitePaul · « **Reply #146 on:** February 10, 2015, 08:08:42 pm »

Last season Newcastle raked in 77 million and they are saying it will go up another 10 million at least.

Fat Bastard Mike Ashley is never going to fuck off from here, and I can't blame him.

Money for ~~old rope~~ sweet fuck all.

Smudgester · « **Reply #147 on:** February 11, 2015, 07:55:07 am »

So ... the new TV deal equates to £10M a game. Let's say, for example, the clubs get a third of that ( not that unlikely ); after just 3 games LFC would have enough money to HALVE the price of every single ST or even shave at least £10 off the price of every single league game ticket.

Will they?? Will they bollocks not unless they are ordered to do it by the PL ( who won't do it either ).

Should Sky/BT have insisted on it in the contract? Damn right they should have

killer-heels · « **Reply #148 on:** February 11, 2015, 08:02:37 am »

In that list Juve earned a good amount. Surprised Germany's is so low.

Oh and I hope we never have individual rights like Spain. Talk about a gap between rich and poor(er).

AB LFC · « **Reply #149 on:** February 11, 2015, 09:19:25 am »

Quote from: Gods_Left_Boot on February 10, 2015, 06:38:17 pm

Not really. For tv companies football is strictly a product. On the one hand you have a club in the most marketable and popular football league on the planet (no matter how small the club is) on the other hand you have a declining club in a decaying league nobody really cares about.

Serie A is a shit league I agree but most people would rather watch Milan v Inter rather than Norwich v Stoke. The money being pumped into this league is ludicrous but I guess it meets the worldwide demand.

Statto Red · « **Reply #150 on:** February 11, 2015, 11:43:47 am »

Spain & Italy is different that it's up to the clubs to negotiate there own TV deals, were as in England it's done collectively by the League, not sure how it's done in Germany, but Cardiff City got twice as much money as Bayern Munich who won the Bundesliga.

Hank Scorpio · « **Reply #151 on:** February 11, 2015, 11:55:06 am »

I'd say that potentially the overall package for PL clubs will be doubled. The foreign rights have not been sold yet and last time around they got £2bn.

There's potential for the foreign rights to gross more than the domestic rights as interest from abroad continues to increase.

mabbympb · « **Reply #152 on:** February 11, 2015, 12:04:44 pm »

Quote from: peachybum on February 10, 2015, 05:13:14 pm

If PL clubs can't reduce ticket prices after getting £5.1b from UK ALONE then they never fucking will.

Just worked out,

5.136b is 2.118b more than the previous 3 year period.

Taking last years total fan figures for all 380 games, 13,944,100 people attened the matches.

If all these people paid £45 per ticket, that would be £627,484,500 per season in money.

If all these 13.9m people paid £45 , across 3 seasons it is £1.88b (£1,882,453,500).

So in theory, the premier league or clubs, could let every single fan into every single match played for 3 seasons - for FREE - and still be £238 million better off over the previous/current 3 year period

That £238 million is greater than the increase in TV deal between the 07/10 and 10/13 period (£67m)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31384481

LondonRapLondon · « **Reply #153 on:** February 11, 2015, 12:17:31 pm »

I'd imagine teams playing midweek CL may welcome playing the league game before on a Friday night.

Could work to our advantage in Europe

Statto Red · « **Reply #154 on:** February 11, 2015, 12:29:55 pm »

Personally except for Bank Holidays the Premier League should bin Monday nights, & stick with Friday nights, Fridays have that start to the weekend feeling, Mondays feel like an anti climax.

Alf · « **Reply #155 on:** February 11, 2015, 01:21:20 pm »

Prefer Friday nights to Monday. Although with only 10 per season I don't think we'll play in more than 1. Crafty fuckers moving the 12:45 forward by 15 minutes an all. Very glad that tv audience gets fucked off on Sky.

killer-heels · « **Reply #156 on:** February 11, 2015, 01:29:19 pm »

12:45 on Saturday is a lame time for people who watch the games on TV. Eats into Saturday shopping time.

swoopy · « **Reply #157 on:** February 11, 2015, 01:35:49 pm »

Quote from: killer_heels on February 11, 2015, 01:29:19 pm

12:45 on Saturday is a lame time for people who watch the games on TV. Eats into Saturday shopping time.

Get up earlier and be back from shopping before the game starts then

Wabaloolah · « **Reply #158 on:** February 11, 2015, 03:29:24 pm »

Quote from: Statto Red on February 11, 2015, 11:43:47 am

Spain & Italy is different that it's up to the clubs to negotiate there own TV deals, were as in England it's done collectively by the League, not sure how it's done in Germany, but Cardiff City got twice as much money as Bayern Munich who won the Bundesliga.

Italy now have a collective bargaining arrangement like the Premier League, although the distribution in money is a rather an odd formula to work out!

http://www.espnfc.com/italian-serie-a/story/1916857/serie-a-clubs-agree-new-tv-rights-deal

stoa · « **Reply #159 on:** February 11, 2015, 03:33:22 pm »

Quote from: killer_heels on February 11, 2015, 01:29:19 pm

12:45 on Saturday is a lame time for people who watch the games on TV. Eats into Saturday shopping time.

I loved it when I was still studying, as a 12:45-kickoff meant it was already 13:45 here in Austria. It was the perfect excuse to go to the pub around the corner while still hungover from the night before, have a beer, a chili and watch some footy...