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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance

« Last post by Sammy5IsAlive on Today at 02:23:40 am »

I will make it easy for you.

Klopp+Mainz=success
Klopp+Dortmund=success
Klopp+Liverpool=success

Dortmund+other managers=failure
FSG+other managers=failures

What do you think is the main contributing factor?

Since Klopp left, Dortmund have finished 2nd five times, 3rd twice, and 4th once. So they've hardly dropped into midtable.

Rodgers came very close to winning the league with us. Obviously it turned sour pretty quickly afterwards but I don't think anyone is arguing that he's anywhere near Klopp's level.

If you wanted to follow the argument through the looking glass you could end up arguing that if FSG had just hired Klopp after sacking Hodgson he would have been challenging for titles and European honours with the likes of Mignolet Downing and Carroll.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: リバプールへようこそ 遠藤

« Last post by johnathank on Today at 02:19:06 am »

I reckon he has taken Milner’s tag for the worst Derby sub performance by a Liverpool player in Klopp’s tenure.

Really don’t see the point of digging out individual players when the entire team breaks down. There were obviously bigger problems than Endo.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by TipTopKop on Today at 02:13:37 am »

Then why did the same journalists who reported Alonso was coming, Amorim wasn't coming and that Slot was nailed on tell us that we were all in for Bellingham.

Right up to the point, the same journalists were told we weren't moving for Bellingham.

I don't know what journo's think mate and can't speak for who knows what, as I rarely follow that, but speaking in terms of club finances and spending (as you are more aware than most) when you say we should bring in 2 elite players every summer I have to push back and say realistically we've never been at that level, and this goes back decades.

We mainly bring cast offs, failed experiments, people with potential and try to unearth hidden gems. Off the top of my head I can only think of Ali as an already established star.

Two elite players every summer is just not something this club has afforded unfortunately.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by Kopenhagen on Today at 02:10:46 am »

Feeling pretty grim about it all right now.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold

« Last post by Kopenhagen on Today at 02:08:07 am »

I’m honestly shocked by some who would willingly just swap him for another player.

Blows my mind.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance

« Last post by King_doggerel on Today at 02:05:52 am »

Yeah I agree. We’d need Arsenal and City to pretty much lose 2 of their remaining games. Unlikely but not impossible.

don;t do it to yourselves

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance

« Last post by Avens on Today at 02:04:03 am »

Don't you get the point we are one of the richest clubs on the planet. Yet you are stating that with the right structure in place we will have a chance of doing well again.

That is fucking nuts.

Yes... in direct response to you saying things will get worse from now. They might, but I imagine we'll still have some fun days to look forward to. Not too sure which part of that viewpoint is fucking nuts. You're feeling far too gloomy to do anything but argue with everything, even if it means arguing against yourself.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by traustibm on Today at 02:03:06 am »

Sleep tight fellas. Reckon I’ll dream of Slot tonight.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: Eve 2 vs 0 Liverpool Bran 27’ Lewin 58’

« Last post by telekon on Today at 02:02:58 am »

Everton colleague of mine was frothing at the mouth with delight and giving it large. She’s a nasty, scheming, weirdly political, closet Tory, rank woman in general but I’ve always been polite with her, and said stuff like “I think Everton will stay up, you’re a big club and the new stadium looks great, etc” despite the constant digs and passive aggression.

Her eyes were popping out and the laughing was delirious. I just congratulated her and said that they were the better team. And carried on with my business 😂 Supporting Everton really does ruin lives. I witness the proof in the flesh on a regular basis.

Good on you for keeping it civil mate. Shows character. Something she obviously lacks.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance

« Last post by Eeyore on Today at 02:02:49 am »

That's an easy question to answer I think. When people left they didn't take their good work with them. We continued to benefit from their good decisions.

You could argue that the performance on the pitch has dropped off it's peak since some of those backroom people moved on. Personally I wouldn't agree with that analysis - I think it is more a natural process whereby a world class team can only maintain that level for so long before age and fatigue takes its toll. But given the last three years we've had a bad season, a good season and an ugly season and given that one of the constants of those season has been Klopp I'd be pretty reluctant to argue that it is him that's been behind all of the success and others that have been responsible when we've fallen short.

I will make it easy for you.

Klopp+Mainz=success
Klopp+Dortmund=success
Klopp+Liverpool=success

Dortmund+other managers=failure
FSG+other managers=failures

What do you think is the main contributing factor?