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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #80 on: July 22, 2016, 03:32:51 pm »
I can't find it, but I saw an Whoscored tweet about him, saying that he has the worst save percentage in the Bundesliga the last 3 years, or something like that.

Oh well. On the other hand, Transfermarkt has listed Bogdan as on loan at Wigan now. So probably too late to get him back. Bugger.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #81 on: July 22, 2016, 03:34:33 pm »
WhoScored now partners with the scum.

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Missed that bit. Thanks for the clarification though.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #82 on: July 22, 2016, 03:47:02 pm »
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #83 on: July 22, 2016, 03:51:14 pm »
I guess this means Shamal George is moving up front permanently?

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #84 on: July 22, 2016, 04:11:09 pm »
Nothing like a mediocre signing to get the juices flowing in anticipation of a new season  :scarf

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #85 on: July 22, 2016, 04:14:32 pm »
It is uninspiring because it is someone who hopefully is never needed. But it fits a pattern that the signings all fit into our side. You can see the reasoning behind each of them and how they fit into the squad and plug the gaps. Given the haphazard approach we have had previously, it is all quite lovely.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #86 on: July 22, 2016, 04:15:50 pm »
Clever move for an experienced player who will never play but lets us get players playing time away from Liverpool FC, Ward will be number 2 next Season.
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #87 on: July 22, 2016, 04:32:14 pm »
he's pretty much doing the job that Richard Wright did at man city, except he probably kept for
longer due to being home grown.

smart enough signing, I'd rather him be our number 3 than Danny ward and have him play barely any football

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #88 on: July 22, 2016, 04:34:31 pm »
Saw us put four past him in 1998! :D

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #89 on: July 22, 2016, 05:22:21 pm »
I guess this means Shamal George is moving up front permanently?

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #90 on: July 22, 2016, 05:48:43 pm »
Alex, manninger!
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #91 on: July 22, 2016, 06:01:26 pm »
Nothing like a mediocre signing to get the juices flowing in anticipation of a new season  :scarf

Still a bigger statement of intent than Everton.  ;D
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #92 on: July 22, 2016, 06:22:50 pm »
I have a bit of a thing for a manginger, so well pleased!

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #93 on: July 22, 2016, 06:26:17 pm »
I have a bit of a thing for a manginger, so well pleased!
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #94 on: July 22, 2016, 06:38:03 pm »
Alex Manninger: The First Interview

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #95 on: July 22, 2016, 07:03:10 pm »
If he ever needs a song how about sinead oconnors mandinka
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #96 on: July 22, 2016, 07:33:33 pm »
At least he'll remember Istanbul.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #97 on: July 22, 2016, 09:05:37 pm »
I can't find it, but I saw an Whoscored tweet about him, saying that he has the worst save percentage in the Bundesliga the last 3 years, or something like that.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #98 on: July 22, 2016, 10:15:49 pm »
Confirms Mings departure i suppose

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #99 on: July 23, 2016, 01:41:07 pm »
I can't find it, but I saw an Whoscored tweet about him, saying that he has the worst save percentage in the Bundesliga the last 3 years, or something like that.

He may well have, but it depends how you look at it. He played in two games last year, one of which was as a sub in the 87th minute during the final game of the season; the other was a home game to Dortmund in March that Augsburg lost 3-1. He played in nine in 2014/15 and 13 in 2013/14.

2013/14 - 13 Games - 33 Saves/54 Shots on Goal - 61.1%
2014/15 - 9 Games - 29 Saves/ 44 Shots on Goal - 65.9%
2015/16 - 2 Games - 2 Saves/5 Shots on Goal - 40%

That is a total of 24 Games with 64 Saves/103 Shots on Goal - 62.1%.

Timo Hildebrand's numbers over a similar period for Eintracht Frankfurt in 2014/15 and Schalke in 2013/14

2013/14 - 12 Games - 40 Saves/64 Shots on Goal - 62.5%
2014-15 - 3 Games - 10 Saves/18 Shots on Goal - 55.5%
Total - 15 Games - 50 Saves/82 Shots on Goal - 60.9%

Werder Bremen's Raphael Wolf

2015/16 - 0 Games
2014/15 - 27 Games - 71 Saves/121 Shots on Goal - 58.6%
2013/14 - 21 Games - 76 Saves/117 Shots on Goal - 64.9%
Total - 48 Games - 147 Saves/238 Shots on Goal - 61.7%

And for good measure another older keeper: Dortmund's Roman Weidenfeller

2015/16 - 1 Game - 1 Save/1 Shot on Goal - 100%
2014/15 - 25 Games - 53 Saves/84 Shots on Goal - 63.0%
2013/14 - 30 Games - 71 Saves/103 Shots on Goal - 68.9%

Total 56 Games - 125 Saves/188 Shots on Goal -  66.4%

He's a 39 year old third choice keeper here. He'll hardly play any games. At Augsburg, he added depth to a plucky team that finished 8th, 5th and 12th, despite having never reached the Bundesliga prior to their initial promotion in 2011/12. He'll be adding depth and valuable experience off the pitch, which is likely more important than what his save percentage was.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #100 on: July 27, 2016, 07:13:02 am »
And 2000/01


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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #101 on: July 27, 2016, 07:25:47 am »
A conspiracy theory is AM will become the new goal keeping coach after his contract us up next season.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #102 on: July 27, 2016, 07:38:04 am »

He's a 39 year old third choice keeper here. He'll hardly play any games. At Augsburg, he added depth to a plucky team that finished 8th, 5th and 12th, despite having never reached the Bundesliga prior to their initial promotion in 2011/12. He'll be adding depth and valuable experience off the pitch, which is likely more important than what his save percentage was.

Sure, but how's that any different from signing the backup goalkeeper from Bolton? He's never established himself anywhere he went, even though he was on some pretty famous squads. That's unless if there are other tangible qualities that Klopp sees in him, such as his ability to help with the mentoring. But then what's Achterberg doing?

I've done some reading on the internet, and it seems that he did some fantastic work at Arsenal, was considered their number one goalkeeping prospect, then fell off the radar after a disasterous apperance against Spartak Moscow. And he hasn't been the same since. His Youtube appearances are few, but it looks like he prefers to punch and deflect rather than catch when he makes a save.

Anyway, a backup is a backup, and I'm not expecting too much. And it does allow the likes of Ward and Fulton to get more experience playing first team football.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #103 on: July 27, 2016, 07:47:39 am »
I've done some reading on the internet, and it seems that he did some fantastic work at Arsenal, was considered their number one goalkeeping prospect, then fell off the radar after a disasterous apperance against Spartak Moscow. And he hasn't been the same since.

Don't really think that's true and I still think Wenger should have persisted with building him up as their future number one instead of going back to Seaman who was way past it and prone to the odd fuck up as well. Manninger did pretty well in Italy, but he seems to have had problems staying at a club and becoming their number one for a longer period. Whenever he was playing, he got good press and people were saying he did a good job. He spent quite a few years at Juve, but was clearly their number two behind Buffon without ever being a threat to him. Then again, he seemed to do very well, when Buffon missed half a season or so.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #104 on: July 27, 2016, 07:52:39 am »
At least he'll remember Istanbul.

Mate he's so old he remembers when it was Constantinople.
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #105 on: July 27, 2016, 08:09:53 am »
Don't really think that's true and I still think Wenger should have persisted with building him up as their future number one instead of going back to Seaman who was way past it and prone to the odd fuck up as well. Manninger did pretty well in Italy, but he seems to have had problems staying at a club and becoming their number one for a longer period. Whenever he was playing, he got good press and people were saying he did a good job. He spent quite a few years at Juve, but was clearly their number two behind Buffon without ever being a threat to him. Then again, he seemed to do very well, when Buffon missed half a season or so.

Apparently (and again this is what I've read, feel free to take it with a grain of salt), he was the understudy to Seaman, and was tipped to take over from him once he retires, until he let in 4 against Spartak. He lost all confidence after that, and Wenger went and bought Richard Wright to be Seaman's deputy. Wenger will stick with his senior players through thick and thin, you can see that loyalty that he has, even though Seaman was slowly becoming a basket case at that point.

Haven't found much on his career after that, it seems that he only had a stint in Siena where he got a couple of years as a starting goalkeeper. Experienced as a backup, he is.
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #106 on: May 25, 2017, 03:12:22 pm »
Nice interview on the official site.

Happy retirement to the guy.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #107 on: May 25, 2017, 04:11:49 pm »
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #108 on: May 25, 2017, 08:00:50 pm »
Maybe he helped Mignolet improve and Karius too but we d havent seen it yet.
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #109 on: May 25, 2017, 08:44:10 pm »
Mignolet has improved this season while he has been around.
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #110 on: May 25, 2017, 10:55:30 pm »
Good luck to him in retirement. Sounds like he plans to potentially back to his original career: a professional joiner

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #111 on: May 26, 2017, 06:36:15 am »
He should have been given the chance.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #112 on: May 26, 2017, 06:54:39 pm »
Good luck to him in retirement. Sounds like he plans to potentially back to his original career: a professional joiner

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #113 on: May 26, 2017, 07:01:42 pm »
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #114 on: May 28, 2017, 02:04:53 pm »
Seems that Simon Mignolet certainly apppreciated Alex Manninger:

“Then there is Alex. I spoke to him over a few drinks in Sydney and I told him I had to thank him for everything he did.

“As a keeper, you can’t really go and speak to anyone in detail about what you are going through. Let’s be honest - I can’t go and speak to Joel (Matip) or Dejan (Lovren) or Studge (Daniel Sturridge) or Gini (Wijnaldum) about what I’m going through. You can’t do it with the guy you are competing with either.

“But Alex understands me and he has got the ideas. He’s got a similar character to what I have, so it was refreshing to speak with him. He’s played with top keepers through his career. He gave me that opportunity to bounce ideas off him when we were in a the gym.

“You wouldn’t necessarily do that with your coach and you certainly wouldn’t do it with an outfield player.

Rest of the interview here:
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/264905-mignolet-why-the-win-at-stoke-was-my-defining-moment

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #115 on: May 29, 2017, 11:21:15 am »
Interesting. Mignolet has improved this season while Manninger has been around. Some people have pointed to the increased competition. But competition doesn`t explain the type of progress he has made. He makes better choices and confident choices this season. 
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #116 on: May 29, 2017, 01:29:07 pm »
Without Manninger we would not have won the double in 1998, he was just a kid then, saved some important pens in the cup run, and was immense in a run of 1-0 wins that took us to the title, including winning at old trafford, still holds the arsenal club record of 6 clean sheets in a row, and is one of a few goal keepers to win the premier league player of the month award.
Good luck on his retirement, I thought hed go on to become one of the best in the world when he broke through back then.

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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #117 on: May 29, 2017, 06:58:00 pm »
Interesting. Mignolet has improved this season while Manninger has been around. Some people have pointed to the increased competition. But competition doesn`t explain the type of progress he has made. He makes better choices and confident choices this season. 
I absolutely agree
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #118 on: May 29, 2017, 07:40:50 pm »
Really bad news this. Every keeper has got worse each season under Achterberg. Manninger comes in and Mig develops into the player we hoped we'd signed.

New goalkeeping coach as a necessity.
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Re: Liverpool complete deal for Alex Manninger
« Reply #119 on: May 30, 2017, 09:14:21 am »
Seems that Simon Mignolet certainly apppreciated Alex Manninger:

“Then there is Alex. I spoke to him over a few drinks in Sydney and I told him I had to thank him for everything he did.

“As a keeper, you can’t really go and speak to anyone in detail about what you are going through. Let’s be honest - I can’t go and speak to Joel (Matip) or Dejan (Lovren) or Studge (Daniel Sturridge) or Gini (Wijnaldum) about what I’m going through. You can’t do it with the guy you are competing with either.

“But Alex understands me and he has got the ideas. He’s got a similar character to what I have, so it was refreshing to speak with him. He’s played with top keepers through his career. He gave me that opportunity to bounce ideas off him when we were in a the gym.

“You wouldn’t necessarily do that with your coach and you certainly wouldn’t do it with an outfield player.

Rest of the interview here:
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/264905-mignolet-why-the-win-at-stoke-was-my-defining-moment

Let's hope he keeps doing that then!
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