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PHILIPPE COUTINHO: THE MAN WHO ESCAPED PURGATORY
« on: November 30, 2015, 12:49:45 pm »
MODERN FOOTBALL HAS CREATED A PURGATORY. A place where players that fail to live up to their initial hype are consigned to. The lines between star and potential star are becoming increasingly blurred, meaning fans and clubs alike are impatient. They demand an instant impact and if you don’t deliver it’s a missed opportunity for the player, not the club. One player on the verge of escaping his personal limbo is Liverpool’s Philippe Coutinho.

Philippe Coutinho Correia, the third, and youngest, son of José Carlos, was born on June 12, 1992, in Rio de Janiero and raised in the district of Rocha. A collection of small industrial warehouses was his humble childhood home.

It was in this area that the future Brazil international learnt his craft. The concrete football pitch close by was his canvas and his elder brothers his inspiration; he would go on to express himself in that concrete jungle.

Futsal was his game of choice and it wasn’t long before Philippe was getting the better of his elder brothers, Cristiano and Leandro. It also wasn’t long before clubs started taking note and he was asked to attend a trial for Vasco da Gama. It’s hard to imagine it now – the Liverpool number 10 often makes himself at home in some of England’s biggest stadiums – but on his first day he wouldn’t leave his father’s side and cried due to extreme shyness.

Recalling his futsal years, Coutinho said: “I played futsal from the age of six. Then when I was seven I went to Vasco da Gama, I was playing futsal until I was 11 before I moved to the big pitch. This is where I learned my skills. When you play futsal, it is more technical and much quicker. The place where you play is much smaller and the pace quicker so you need to be a highly technical player to succeed. It helps me adapt quicker.”

The futsal videos of a young Coutinho – ‘Philippinho’ as he was called back then – can be found on YouTube, with the curly haired maestro still using the same tricks when he plays now as he did back then. He’s a contortionist with the ball at his feet and a joy to watch. The twinkle in his eye and the cheeky smile he flashes after scoring is something Liverpool fans have become accustomed to.

Coming through the youth ranks at Vasco he often crossed paths with another Brazilian starlet, Neymar. At the time the talk was about which of these two talented youngsters would be the best. The were likened to Robinho and Diego, two players that had some years earlier come through the ranks at Santos. Coutinho’s Vasco defeated Neymar’s Santos in the under-17 Copa do Brasil in 2008 and his star was on rapid ascent.

Unsurprisingly with a profound South American talent, a move to Europe was just around the corner. Many clubs showed an interest but it was Italian side Inter Milan who took the calculated risk and paid Vasco da Gama €4 million for the services of Brazil’s next big thing.

After just a few training sessions with Inter, manager at the time Rafa Benítez declared Coutinho would be “the club’s future”. Many will be familiar with the Inter-Tottenham Hotspur 4-3 match, it’s forever associated with Gareth Bale announcing himself to the world, but it was Inter Milan’s number 29 who impressed the football purists. The diminutive Brazilian played a part in two of the four Inter goals while playing on the left of a 4-2-3-1. A bright start at Inter soon faded, however; a mixture of injuries and the sacking of Benítez meant Coutinho finished the season out of the team.

After failing to establish himself in the first half of 2011-12, Inter allowed Coutinho to be loaned to Spanish side Espanyol, who at the time had future Southampton and Spurs manager Mauricio Pochettino at the helm. The loan deal was the revival Coutinho’s stagnating career needed.

A return of five goals in 16 appearances – and one of the goals of the season against Rayo Vallecano – led to Espanyol wanting to extend the loan but Inter were convinced of his quality once again and welcomed him back with open arms. Diego Milito, Inter’s leading marksman at the time, commented how “[Coutinho’s] time in Spain changed him for the better”. First team football will do that to a player. The first half of the next season he made 19 appearances for the side, just one shy of the total number he made in the entirety of 2010-11.

In a bizarre twist he was sold to Liverpool in January 2013 for £8 million – many Nerazzurri fans questioning the wisdom of letting their best young talent leave on the cheap. The fee was too tempting, however, for the Inter Milan owners, who had grown tired of waiting to reap their rewards.

Later, Inter Milan director Piero Ausilio noted his regret at letting Coutinho leave: “He was just 18 when he arrived at the club from Vasco. Then came [Rafa] Benítez and the expectations were very high. Rafa had used him on the flanks in a 4-2-3-1 formation but he was not playing much so we decided to sell him. I would like young players to grow and succeed here; when I see them play for other clubs, it makes me sad.”

Inter’s loss was Liverpool’s gain. The mercurial mop-headed number 10 made himself at home in the Liverpool line-up, hitting it off instantly with Luis Suárez and Daniel Sturridge. Originally playing on the left of a 4-2-3-1 – like he had at Inter – his partnership with the latter blossomed in the absence of the former and he was instrumental in Liverpool’s emphatic end to the 2012-13 season.



He was tormenting players and tying defenders in knots like a certain Cristiano Ronaldo was doing in his debut season at United, with the difference being the Liverpool player had an end product from day one. He’s a gifted player that turns heads and has warmed rival fans to his undoubted quality. He made Héctor Bellerín do an impression of a dog chasing its own tail when Liverpool travelled to the Emirates in August 2015.

The following season was one of two halves for both club and player: inconsistent in the first half of the season and magical in the second. The nimble playmaker had his position tweaked; he was deployed as a left-sided central midfielder as part of a diamond and he evolved beyond measure – reaching heights many thought he wouldn’t after his stagnation at Inter.

The Brazilian attacking midfielder was now doing the dirty work in midfield against the likes of Yaya Touré and Fernandinho. Crucially, however, he was still contributing offensively. You often hear of the water carrier doing the dirty work before giving the ball to players capable of making things happen; Coutinho was a water carrier-playmaker hybrid at times during that season. A new breed of Brazilian, he’s just as creative and dynamic without the ball as he is with it.

He couldn’t sustain that form and as Liverpool struggled to cope with life after Luis Suárez, Coutinho blew hot and cold. The burden of expectation placed on the youngster’s shoulders saw some disappointed with what they witnessed, echoing his time in Milan. He no longer had Suárez or Sturridge to create for; instead he was supposed to be the creator and the finisher. A magician needs an assistant, otherwise the illusion is lost.

Liverpool recognised this and last summer they signed Roberto Firmino, a player to share the burden with. Coutinho is no longer the sole player Liverpool look to for a moment of inspiration. Firmino’s presence has allowed Coutinho a little more freedom to express himself. It’s paying dividends for the Reds under new manager Jürgen Klopp. The two Brazilians have played a big part in Liverpool’s positive start under the German.

While his club career is back on that upward trajectory, Brazil boss Dunga is bizarrely favouring Orlando City’s 33-year-old Kaká over the Liverpool star for the Seleção. Dunga has a peculiar way of picking players for the national side, despite his assurances that form is enough. “If a guy comes in and plays well, he will remain in the squad. They have to seize their opportunities.”

This is more of a club-style policy – it’s your jersey to lose type mentality – not one you often associate with international football. National sides often pick the form players, and before the last international break Coutinho had scored three goals in two games, two of which came in Liverpool’s emphatic 3-1 victory against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. It must be difficult to accept for the Rio native.

Hyped as the next Brazilian star alongside Neymar he missed out on a call up to the squad in his home World Cup. Shunned by Dunga for now, surely it’s only a matter of time before he’s given the opportunity to rekindle his friendship with Neymar on the pitch. Perhaps the incessant criticism Dunga receives for his team selections within Brazil is partly aimed at his continual overlooking of one of the Premier League’s best playmakers.

It’s this kind of form, though, that could be bittersweet for the Reds. Liverpool want their players performing at optimal levels but as things stand Coutinho’s level is perhaps a notch or two above everyone else’s at Anfield. If the club can’t match his aspirations then he has every right to whisper ‘come and get me’ pleas to the biggest sides in Europe.

If he’s performing at high levels on a regular basis he could be the next player after Luis Suárez and Raheem Sterling to earn a big-money move away from Anfield, and it’s not like he’d be short of suitors. He’s the apparent heir to the Andrés Iniesta mantle, and Barcelona stars past and present aren’t shy in letting him know.

Neymar has been vocal in his support: “I think there are many players with great qualities that could be playing for Barcelona. He is one of them. He is a great player and his style suits Barcelona.”

Coutinho’s idol Ronaldinho has also expressed his opinion on the subject: “I can’t speak for him and I can’t speak for Barcelona – but I know what Barcelona look for in a player and he has all those qualities.”

It’s easy after one big move as a youngster to settle. The passion and drive that got them to Europe burns out when they eventually arrive and their talent goes to waste. Coutinho, to his eternal credit, isn’t like this though. He’s still the youngster who played futsal on the concrete pitch not far from his house. He’s still humble; during interviews when he’s complimented he always makes a point of saying he can improve. He takes to social media to reply to individual messages and thank fans for their support. Liverpool supporters love him, and he reciprocates when he can. He’s immersed himself into the Scouse culture, even adding ‘lad’ to the end of his tweets.

It’s easy to forget he’s only 23 and is still learning his trade. The next few seasons are pivotal in his development as we finally see what type of player he will become – a number 8 or a number 10. Can his goals become more frequent or will he forever be a scorer of great goals but not a great goalscorer? Either way, the next two years are pivotal in the career of Philippe Coutinho.

A regular Seleção birth and leading Liverpool to Premier League glory will be his aims: how well he plays will ultimately be the determining factor in both.

http://thesefootballtimes.co/2015/11/29/in-celebration-of-philippe-coutinho/

The previous Coutinho thread was locked, so started a new one. Mods, please merge of needed
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Re: PHILIPPE COUTINHO: THE MAN WHO ESCAPED PURGATORY
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 01:06:08 pm »
Mad to think he's still only 23 and how talented he could be in 3-4 years, world as his feet. Here's hoping we do enough on the pitch to keep him.

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 01:20:07 pm »
Mad to think he's still only 23 and how talented he could be in 3-4 years, world as his feet. Here's hoping we do enough on the pitch to keep him.

Agree. He's 23 years old and tearing teams in this league to pieces.

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Re: PHILIPPE COUTINHO: THE MAN WHO ESCAPED PURGATORY
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 02:35:32 pm »
Agree. He's 23 years old and tearing teams in this league to pieces.

I'm 24 years old and I sit at home masturbating to him tearing teams in this league to pieces.

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Re: PHILIPPE COUTINHO: THE MAN WHO ESCAPED PURGATORY
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2015, 02:42:49 pm »
Could see him getting 15 goals this season plus tons of assist/key passes

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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2015, 02:52:25 pm »
Its ludicrous to think what we paid for him, considering the talent he undoubtedly is. I just hope we keep for a long, long time.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2015, 02:56:08 pm »
Rafa was right he is the future, but not of Inter. Idiots for selling him, their loss our gain.

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2015, 03:00:13 pm »
Its ludicrous to think what we paid for him, considering the talent he undoubtedly is. I just hope we keep for a long, long time.

I'm so confident we can.

I think Klopp will play a major part in that too.

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2015, 03:43:08 pm »
If he continues his current form tI think we should be looking to extend his deal. Or at least improve the terms of his deal. Even though he only signed a contract extension last year.

I actually don't think he's anywhere near to the level that was achieved by the likes of Suarez and Gerrard. However, he's one of our most important player at the moment, and therefore should be paid a wage commensurate with that. I remember reading that his last contract was somewhere  in the region of 70-80k p/w. An extraordinary amount of money to the normal working man, but in footballing terms it probably under values him slightly.

I hope the club doesn't rest on it's laurels and think that since he signed a contract recently that he may not be worth rewarding again. We have previous at this type of thing and I'd hate to see us lose Coutinho because he felt under valued by the club.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2015, 03:45:10 pm »
He's our Götze. And a Götze that will choose to stay!
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Re: PHILIPPE COUTINHO: THE MAN WHO ESCAPED PURGATORY
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2015, 04:28:31 pm »
Coutinho Firmino Costa and Neymar.

Brazil to demolish Germany in Russia. Would be poetic.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2015, 04:35:39 pm »
Knock on wood, but i honestly cannot see Coutinho leave. Not to sound extreme but we in a way gave him a second chance at football. He's developed into a game changer, and a real talisman for us. Hs shooting has been magical over the past two seasons. He recently signed a new contract if im not mistaken. If someone asked me to pick over selling him for 100 million pounds or keeping him for ever, i would choose the latter.
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Re: PHILIPPE COUTINHO: THE MAN WHO ESCAPED PURGATORY
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2015, 05:42:48 pm »
Knock on wood, but i honestly cannot see Coutinho leave. Not to sound extreme but we in a way gave him a second chance at football. He's developed into a game changer, and a real talisman for us. Hs shooting has been magical over the past two seasons. He recently signed a new contract if im not mistaken. If someone asked me to pick over selling him for 100 million pounds or keeping him for ever, i would choose the latter.
I also think he isnt the type to leave very quickly for various reasons including personality - see others like Marco reus who is still at Dortmund due to loyalty etc - but as pointed out above he is only 23: I actually forgot that 23 is young! He can become one of the top 10-20 in the world potentially, and if he ever does reach those heights (which is hard to predict) then you-know-who will be interested and he might just go. Its up to us to win enough trophies to be as much of a destination as Man City has been for Silva, Toure, Kompany and Aguero for instance.

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2015, 06:09:11 pm »
He will leave eventually, his ceiling is too big for current day Liverpool FC.  My only hope is Klopp can get us up to the very top very soon, which would hold Coutinho at Anfield.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2015, 06:18:21 pm »
Give him a reason to stay. Bumper contract, Champions League participation and a couple of pieces of silverware.


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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2015, 06:21:35 pm »
Been one of my favourite players to watch over the last few seasons. Long may it continue. He's vital to us.

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2015, 06:43:07 pm »
Coutinho Firmino Costa and Neymar.

Brazil to demolish Germany in Russia. Would be poetic.

costa plays for spain :)
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2015, 06:54:37 pm »
costa plays for spain :)

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« Reply #19 on: December 9, 2015, 11:52:42 am »
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Re: PHILIPPE COUTINHO: THE MAN WHO ESCAPED PURGATORY
« Reply #21 on: January 4, 2016, 09:25:09 am »
I was so excited to see Firmino and Coutinho play together this seasons an bar the Man City game I have been hugely underwhelmed.

Klopp says his players are playing at 90-95%, Well I think Phillippe is pushing 30%, maybe 40%. He is letting us down at the moment and he continually looks for the Hail Mary shot from 20-30 yards. I thought his goals last season and first game were nothing short of amazing, but it's low percentage and when you have a through ball in your skill set like he has, taking a shot is a downright waste. Pass the ball ffs.

I don't get particularly upset about Benteke, the majority of our supporters knew he wouldn't be a success, even despite his goals. Coutinho however, has the skill set to lift us up a level but he is playing for himself.

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« Reply #22 on: January 4, 2016, 09:38:53 am »
I was so excited to see Firmino and Coutinho play together this seasons an bar the Man City game I have been hugely underwhelmed.

Klopp says his players are playing at 90-95%, Well I think Phillippe is pushing 30%, maybe 40%. He is letting us down at the moment and he continually looks for the Hail Mary shot from 20-30 yards. I thought his goals last season and first game were nothing short of amazing, but it's low percentage and when you have a through ball in your skill set like he has, taking a shot is a downright waste. Pass the ball ffs.

I don't get particularly upset about Benteke, the majority of our supporters knew he wouldn't be a success, even despite his goals. Coutinho however, has the skill set to lift us up a level but he is playing for himself.

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MODERN FOOTBALL HAS CREATED A PURGATORY. A place where players that fail to live up to their initial hype are consigned to. The lines between star and potential star are becoming increasingly blurred, meaning fans and clubs alike are impatient. They demand an instant impact and if you don’t deliver it’s a missed opportunity for the player, not the club.

He's having dip in form. As most of the posters from November rightly noted, he is immensely talented and will come good when the whole team gets its act together.
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« Reply #23 on: January 4, 2016, 09:41:20 am »
He's a skilled tradesman working with blunt tools. Surround him with some quality instead of the current mediocrity and he'll start functioning at his level again and then maybe we won't be seeing him trying to curl it in from 30 yards 10 times every game.

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« Reply #24 on: January 4, 2016, 10:07:25 am »
He's a skilled tradesman working with blunt tools. Surround him with some quality instead of the current mediocrity and he'll start functioning at his level again and then maybe we won't be seeing him trying to curl it in from 30 yards 10 times every game.

Such are the constant excuses for his form.

Can't deny that he will look better with players more suited to his game in front of him, but that in no way excuses his form tanking for what is essentially 18 months now.

If he's really as good as we all hope he is then why can't he adapt his game? If he's really that talented why can't he tailor his approach?

Ozil for example loves a throughball too, thats his 'thing', but it doesnt stop him assisting Giroud who essentially doesnt move.

When Phil has a poor few months of form, which happens far more regularly than it should, it's never his fault. Its never because he's flakey and prone to it. When he's shooting from 40 yeards 5 times a game its never because he's a bit stupid and makes bad decisions, its cos others arent giving him what he needs.

As I said above, clearly we're hardly setting up to allow him to do what he'd most like to. He has an affinity with Sturridge, which is fine, but great players adapt and change to different set ups and scenarios.

Coutinho doesnt adapt, he goes to pot.

Needs to add some maturity to his game and stop the ridiculous shooting. If Benteke doesnt move as he wants him to then why not try playing closer to him and playing off him, he's good at that. And if there isnt enough space where he wants then why not try and manipulate some rather than forcing the play and/or twatting the ball over the bar.

When everything is perfect for him, he's great. But things arent always pefect and he needs to start contributing without everything being perfectly lined up in front of him.

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« Reply #25 on: January 4, 2016, 10:11:30 am »
He's alright.

History shows that this  could be his best season as he doesn't have a particularly high goal or assist rate.

Doubt he'll ever be top drawer in the respect that he will run a game by himself but there will be occasions. The beginning of the season suggested he would as he changed games by himself, but now seems back to the inconsistency that we've seen throughout his time at Liverpool.
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« Reply #26 on: January 4, 2016, 10:14:41 am »
He's a player who needs pace around him. Without that he becomes an okay player who just tries to shoot all the time as no pass is on, with pace he becomes one of the best no.10s about.

You won't see the best of Coutinho unless there's a quick player making intelligent runs

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« Reply #27 on: January 4, 2016, 11:10:04 am »
He is good but I personally dont believe he will become one of the best in the world.

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« Reply #28 on: January 4, 2016, 11:14:21 am »
To get to the top, he needs to perform when the team isn't set up for his ideal game.

There's more to being a great player than sliding balls through to fast players. His all round game is totally off.

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« Reply #29 on: January 4, 2016, 11:20:17 am »
He is good but I personally dont believe he will become one of the best in the world.

Why not?

The likes of Isco, Kovacic, James have been nearly as inconsistent, it can happen to most players, only a couple players in his age group who are consistent week in week out, one of them in Neymar is already the best in the world, the rest like Coutinho go through stages and patches of inconsistency. He's still a couple years away from putting it altogether and ascending to that top level, but it will happen, even if its not at our club.

Saying that he needs to do better, i sort of thing this insistence on him scoring goals has hampered his game, when he plays naturally and is at ease, he is undoubtedly one of the most creative players in this league, i think the introduction of Sturridge will help bring back some of the performances we've been used to in the past.

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« Reply #30 on: January 4, 2016, 11:22:40 am »
To get to the top, he needs to perform when the team isn't set up for his ideal game.

There's more to being a great player than sliding balls through to fast players. His all round game is totally off.

He's just looking for that special moment far too often. Sometimes he needs to learn when to just play a good simple but effective ball. Far too many times he goes in to tunnel vision mode and only looks to create himself a scoring opportunity, when it he clearly isn't in a position to do so. When he's scored his long range screamers, it's been when he's found himself in space and time to really get his technique bang on.

He also really does need to get in to box a lot more often. He'd add a good 5 goals extra per season just by taking a chance in the box as he has the natural ability to finish chances.

There's a top notch player in there and we've seen it on occasion, but he needs to really start learning what are the most effective decisions during a game.

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« Reply #31 on: January 4, 2016, 11:23:04 am »
Why not?

The likes of Isco, Kovacic, James have been nearly as inconsistent, it can happen to most players, only a couple players in his age group who are consistent week in week out, one of them in Neymar is already the best in the world, the rest like Coutinho go through stages and patches of inconsistency. He's still a couple years away from putting it altogether and ascending to that top level, but it will happen, even if its not at our club.

Saying that he needs to do better, i sort of thing this insistence on him scoring goals has hampered his game, when he plays naturally and is at ease, he is undoubtedly one of the most creative players in this league, i think the introduction of Sturridge will help bring back some of the performances we've been used to in the past.

Until he learns how to influence games and change games when everythings not perfect for him then he wont.

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« Reply #32 on: January 4, 2016, 11:26:37 am »
He's just looking for that special moment far too often. Sometimes he needs to learn when to just play a good simple but effective ball. Far too many times he goes in to tunnel vision mode and only looks to create himself a scoring opportunity, when it he clearly isn't in a position to do so. When he's scored his long range screamers, it's been when he's found himself in space and time to really get his technique bang on.

He also really does need to get in to box a lot more often. He'd add a good 5 goals extra per season just by taking a chance in the box as he has the natural ability to finish chances.

There's a top notch player in there and we've seen it on occasion, but he needs to really start learning what are the most effective decisions during a game.

This is why he is helped by Sturridge, i think when Daniel is on he curbs his instinct to shoot, which isn't his natural instinct, its something he has learnt while here, maybe due to the insistence to score more goals. When he first came he would hardly shoot and always look for the pass, but at the same time he had people like Sterling Suarez Sturridge who he most certainly would respect as footballers on an individual level making clever runs for him.

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« Reply #33 on: January 4, 2016, 11:29:17 am »
This is why he is helped by Sturridge, i think when Daniel is on he curbs his instinct to shoot, which isn't his natural instinct, its something he has learnt while here, maybe due to the insistence to score more goals. When he first came he would hardly shoot and always look for the pass, but at the same time he had people like Sterling Suarez Sturridge who he most certainly would respect as footballers on an individual level making clever runs for him.

That's the Phil Coutinho we deserve, but not the one we need right now.

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« Reply #34 on: January 4, 2016, 11:30:01 am »
I think his passing game is actually a little overrated.  You have someone running into acres of space and he'll play them in, but if you need a tight, angled throughball similar to the ones Ozil plays, then he's incredibly inconsistent with them.
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« Reply #36 on: January 4, 2016, 11:34:12 am »
https://twitter.com/Squawka/status/675444468837777408

And he's spent the last 18 months with Balotelli, Lambert and Benteke ahead of him.
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« Reply #37 on: January 4, 2016, 11:35:18 am »
Sit down, shock is better taken with bent knees.

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« Reply #38 on: January 4, 2016, 11:35:42 am »
Probably one of the most overrated players in football.

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« Reply #39 on: January 4, 2016, 11:36:35 am »