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From Dave Usher, editor at The Liverpool Way, from his own questions asked of the manager during forums meeting last week.

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BRENDAN RODGERS - IT'S ALL ABOUT THE STYLE

Brendan Rodgers has spoken of his intention to impose a philosophy and style of play throughout all levels of the club that he hopes will remain in place for years to come, but warned that at youth and under 21 level it will be a gradual process that will take time to implement.  Whilst at senior level Rodgers has wasted no time installing the 4-3-3 system that worked so well for him at Swansea, the u21 and u18 sides have not yet begun to mirror the changes that have been brought in at first team level and still line up in the 4-2-3-1 system they've used in recent years.

In a Liverpool Way exclusive, Rodgers says that will change over time, but for now the system is less important than the style and is dictated by the players at his disposal.  "I've brought in a philosophy that will run through the club at all levels but the principles of your game is based on your players" he explained. "In the short term with the first team we've seen elements of it in a couple of the games; West Brom in the first half we saw the fluidity and command of the game I'm looking for, and against Manchester City I thought tactically we were good but needed to have more a threat.  The fluency and that way of working will not come fully until later because it's about the profile of the players."

Rodgers is well known to favour the 4-3-3 system, but Reds fans should expect to see other formations deployed over the months ahead, as the Northern Irishman insists the demands of playing that formation week in week out with the small group of players he has been left with following a disappointing last week of the transfer window are too great. He spoke of the need to"find solutions to help his players", especially 17 year old Raheem Sterling who Rodgers spoke of in glowing terms but warned "won't be able to play Thursday, Sunday, Thursday" in a 4-3-3 due to the physical toll it would take on the youngster.  He also warned that with a minimum of 25 games between now and the January transfer window, "if we play 4-3-3 in every game, we'll be dead".  Put simply, he doesn't have the squad depth to rotate players in and out to keep his key men fresh so expect to see some variation from his favoured formation in the months ahead, be it 3-4-3, 3-5-2 or the 4-2-3-1 that has been used at Academy and Reserve level since Rodolfo Borrell and the now departed Pep Segura arrived at the Reds' Academy in 2009. 

The younger players are all comfortable with that system and it has made the transition through the various age groups much smoother for them than if they were having to adapt to a new way of playing each time they moved up an age group.  They move from the u16s to the u18s and they're playing the same system.  They graduate from the u18s to the reserves/u21 set up and again, it's the same system.  The problem is that the senior side have generally not played that way since the departure of Rafa Benitez and they aren't playing that system under the new boss.

However, it's not drastically different to Rodgers' favoured 4-3-3 formation and the manager revealed that occasionally Swansea's line up would switch between 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 during the course of games last season.  He explained that the main difference between the two systems is in the midfield, and "whether you play one controlling midfielder or two".  Presently the teams below the senior set up generally use two (Yalany Baio and Jordan Lussey for the u18s, and Conor Coady and Craig Roddan for the u21s), but that's something that may change over time and also as different personnel are introduced to the groups who are more suited to the 4-3-3 system.

For now though, Rodgers is unconcerned with what formation the junior sides line up with, insisting the main priority at this stage is instilling the basic requirements of how he likes sides to play, ie keeping the ball at all costs and incessantly pressing the opposition to win back possession. 

"It's not about the formation it's about the philosophy" he stressed. "It's the style that's important whether it's 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-3. Rodolfo and the guys who work at the Academy have been operating for the last few years with a 4-2-3-1.  For me the modern game is very much about the command of the midfield, having three midfield players so you can dominate games.  That is the fundamental basis of our teams going forward."

"They were already on their way to doing that at the Academy and the principles will be the same - control, domination, tire teams out, keep them running, keep them chasing until the space opens up and then you have better opportunities to score, rather than the helter skelter, basketball game where you attack one end and then the other team attacks your end.  That will come over time."
 

Any tactical discussion involving Rodgers always comes back to one thing -  the midfield.  It's clear from numerous interviews he's done that the key to making his style of football work is having the right players in the middle of the park.  It's why he spent £15m on Joe Allen (whom he says is currently playing out of position and will offer "50% more" when he reverts to his more natural role) despite the more pressing need for players further forward.  It's why Nuri Sahin was brought in on loan from Real Madrid.  The ability to keep the ball and demand possession even in tight spaces is critical to any Brendan Rodgers team; "Whether we played one and two, or two and one, they have to control the game because you've got three midfield players and if they don't keep the ball it kills your team because the full backs are high.  If you watch Swansea now for example, you see the left is right up attacking on one side, the right back is up on the other side and you have all the midfield players and forwards co-ordinated to try and attack." 

Personnel is also a factor, and the boss and his coaching staff clearly feel that for the younger sides right now the best thing for them is to not change too much too soon and ask players to fill roles they aren't necessarily suited to.  Learning a new style is the first step, the change in formation will come later.  Rodgers explained;  "You can go to play 4-3-3 but you have to have the players.  For example last year at Swansea I had the profile of the players to work that way.  I had wingers that were quick and could come inside and be a threat on goal.  I had strikers that could build the game and be patient, but who could also threaten on the shoulder.  But the critical ingredient is your three midfield players."

"That leaves the two centre halves and one controlling midfield player. You can do that when you have players that are comfortable with the ball and that's something that we're looking to grow, but the style is the most important element of it. Liverpool has always been about winning, but it's also about the style.  Over time we'll look to put that in place at all levels."

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 04:13:12 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jINu-ZucO8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 05:08:23 pm »
With the greatest of respect to BR and Fenway, the doubts and insecurity about both remain, and it would be a naive move to change anything at the club first team downwards as the system has shown to work well and finally the fruits of its labour are being seen in the shape of a number of academy graduates playing for the first team so why change ?
BR could well be out of the club by the end of the season or maybe here for another 10 years, we have absolutely no idea, so in my opinion it will be a high risk move to allow BR to make any changes to the academy blueprint, there is nothing wrong with it, he should focus on results for the first team and trying to secure his position, its understandable the fanzine reaction to the Interview last week, as it is not often these opportunities come about for the groups but I think its also time to stop drumming the PR and force it on everybody else as maybe some of us are not taken in by "walking on water speeches" maybe we would like to see some results and move away from being 18th in the league., but to hand the keys of shankly gates and its future to a coach with 1 years experience in the top flight is moving into a complete dangerous territory.
The reminders of our recent successes are shown regularly on LFC TV and the benchmark is pretty high , whether he is the man or Fenway the owners capable of achieving it is highly debateable, but also having watched the recent documentary on the channel regarding Bob Paisley, the most successfull manager in our history, it was interesting that he always valued winning as the most important and not entertaining.
Infact his exact words were " winning is all that matters to me and this club, winning is what its all about" not my words but the words of a man who won 20 trophies in 9 years at the club . Genius !!!!



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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 05:35:51 pm »
The post above by danielfonseca is spot on. to be honest I am sick of hearing Rodgers talk about his style & philosophy - this period where he has to adapt - put his money where his mouth is due to the squad limitations, will tell us whether he has the abilities the hype seems to want us to believe he has.

Jury still out for me to be honest.

I am a Rafa fan and still can't believe he was overlooked. He still has so much to offer I can't believe he was not considered.

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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 05:41:31 pm »
More talk.....great  :-\
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 06:07:58 pm »
More talk.....great  :-\
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 06:08:39 pm »
pls WALK the TALK.

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 06:17:24 pm »
Im a bit concerned about the numerous references to Swansea. With respect, we need (and expect) to do much much better than swansea

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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2012, 06:19:46 pm »
Im a bit concerned about the numerous references to Swansea. With respect, we need (and expect) to do much much better than swansea
They were a different class to us last year mate. Utterly.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2012, 06:22:42 pm »
He sure does talk the talk (a lot) can he walk the walk?

For me,the jury's out.
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2012, 06:26:48 pm »
There will always be a need for variation in formation as we need to keep opponents guessing. Rodger btw needs to have a look at forwards more than midfield as this is his problem area now. Ball possesion doesn't win games, goals do.

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2012, 06:29:36 pm »
Great stuff from Dave :)

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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2012, 06:33:38 pm »
Office politics at its best. Clearly a man with a massive inferiority complex who is frightened of others and their ideas.

This is a man who has won nothing, has no track record to speak of but he wants to quash any other ideas or innovations. Frightening. Lets not forget those running the Academy are infinitely more experienced and successful than Rodgers.

He's the Tony Blair of the football world, all talk.

If when Kenny was sacked we'd have been told Rodgers was the man and he'd have total control including ripping up the Academy there would've been uproar.

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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2012, 06:37:17 pm »
Im a bit concerned about the numerous references to Swansea. With respect, we need (and expect) to do much much better than swansea

 ::)

He successfully implemented his way of playing to Swansea. And that's what he wants to do at Liverpool - otherwise what's the point?

Liverpool have far better players than Swansea, so it's likely we will do better, as we did last season. Rodgers will have a higher budget to get a higher quality of player than he would at Swansea.

I'm more concerned how people aren't giving him a chance. He's talking the talk because he knows his stuff, not making shit up that he isn't gonna try and do. What do you want him to be like, Hodgson - utterly inept?

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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2012, 06:38:53 pm »
Office politics at its best. Clearly a man with a massive inferiority complex who is frightened of others and their ideas.

This is a man who has won nothing, has no track record to speak of but he wants to quash any other ideas or innovations. Frightening. Lets not forget those running the Academy are infinitely more experienced and successful than Rodgers.

He's the Tony Blair of the football world, all talk.

If when Kenny was sacked we'd have been told Rodgers was the man and he'd have total control including ripping up the Academy there would've been uproar.

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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2012, 06:41:52 pm »
Office politics at its best. Clearly a man with a massive inferiority complex who is frightened of others and their ideas.

This is a man who has won nothing, has no track record to speak of but he wants to quash any other ideas or innovations. Frightening. Lets not forget those running the Academy are infinitely more experienced and successful than Rodgers.

He's the Tony Blair of the football world, all talk.

If when Kenny was sacked we'd have been told Rodgers was the man and he'd have total control including ripping up the Academy there would've been uproar.

Thats the spirit.

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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2012, 06:45:10 pm »
Thats the spirit.

Thanks. B-)

He needs to cut out the talking and start doing.  He needs to focus on the first team and leave the rest alone until he's got some results.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2012, 06:45:42 pm »
People are so fucking impatient in football now. No manager stands a chance here anymore.
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2012, 06:46:04 pm »
With the greatest of respect to BR and Fenway, the doubts and insecurity about both remain, and it would be a naive move to change anything at the club first team downwards as the system has shown to work well and finally the fruits of its labour are being seen in the shape of a number of academy graduates playing for the first team so why change ?
BR could well be out of the club by the end of the season or maybe here for another 10 years, we have absolutely no idea, so in my opinion it will be a high risk move to allow BR to make any changes to the academy blueprint, there is nothing wrong with it, he should focus on results for the first team and trying to secure his position, its understandable the fanzine reaction to the Interview last week, as it is not often these opportunities come about for the groups but I think its also time to stop drumming the PR and force it on everybody else as maybe some of us are not taken in by "walking on water speeches" maybe we would like to see some results and move away from being 18th in the league., but to hand the keys of shankly gates and its future to a coach with 1 years experience in the top flight is moving into a complete dangerous territory.
The reminders of our recent successes are shown regularly on LFC TV and the benchmark is pretty high , whether he is the man or Fenway the owners capable of achieving it is highly debateable, but also having watched the recent documentary on the channel regarding Bob Paisley, the most successfull manager in our history, it was interesting that he always valued winning as the most important and not entertaining.
Infact his exact words were " winning is all that matters to me and this club, winning is what its all about" not my words but the words of a man who won 20 trophies in 9 years at the club . Genius !!!!





You can talk about one great manager winning at all costs , but could spin that and talk about another great manager Arrigo Sacchi who also valued winning but  wanted his team to be entertaining also , why is that wrong? Sacchi did it out of passion , something that Rodgers has as well.Why does it have to be one or the other?

Also , i dont get why ''1 years experience'' is such a big deal , EVERY managment appointment is a gamble , we of all people should know ''35 years experience'' counts for nothing when coming to manage this great club.It all depends whether you glass is half full or half empty i suppose , Dortmund fans were probably having this exact debate when Klopp walked into the club from lower league Mainz , the rest they say is history.

We need Rodgers to stick around and be here for the long term , continuity is what we have been lacking and its what successful teams generally have.So all this insecurity , jury is out stuff needs to be turned into a positive vibe , lets get behind the manager.

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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2012, 06:46:35 pm »
Office politics at its best. Clearly a man with a massive inferiority complex who is frightened of others and their ideas.

This is a man who has won nothing, has no track record to speak of but he wants to quash any other ideas or innovations. Frightening. Lets not forget those running the Academy are infinitely more experienced and successful than Rodgers.

He's the Tony Blair of the football world, all talk.

If when Kenny was sacked we'd have been told Rodgers was the man and he'd have total control including ripping up the Academy there would've been uproar.

Yup changing from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is completely changing the philosophy of the academy  :butt. You obviously have an axe to grind against Rodger's and will use very opportunity to do so, what was it he said about the third group of fans?
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2012, 06:47:47 pm »
Thanks. B-)

He needs to cut out the talking and start doing.  He needs to focus on the first team and leave the rest alone until he's got some results.

I quite like him explaining his views on how football should be played, shows someone who is deeply dedicated to his vision, and is clearly a big student of the game. Not unlike a recent past manager who many (me included) like still.

As long as he also follows through on this I've no problem.

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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2012, 06:53:17 pm »
With the greatest of respect to BR and Fenway, the doubts and insecurity about both remain, and it would be a naive move to change anything at the club first team downwards as the system has shown to work well and finally the fruits of its labour are being seen in the shape of a number of academy graduates playing for the first team so why change ?
BR could well be out of the club by the end of the season or maybe here for another 10 years, we have absolutely no idea, so in my opinion it will be a high risk move to allow BR to make any changes to the academy blueprint, there is nothing wrong with it, he should focus on results for the first team and trying to secure his position, its understandable the fanzine reaction to the Interview last week, as it is not often these opportunities come about for the groups but I think its also time to stop drumming the PR and force it on everybody else as maybe some of us are not taken in by "walking on water speeches" maybe we would like to see some results and move away from being 18th in the league., but to hand the keys of shankly gates and its future to a coach with 1 years experience in the top flight is moving into a complete dangerous territory.
The reminders of our recent successes are shown regularly on LFC TV and the benchmark is pretty high , whether he is the man or Fenway the owners capable of achieving it is highly debateable, but also having watched the recent documentary on the channel regarding Bob Paisley, the most successfull manager in our history, it was interesting that he always valued winning as the most important and not entertaining.
Infact his exact words were " winning is all that matters to me and this club, winning is what its all about" not my words but the words of a man who won 20 trophies in 9 years at the club . Genius !!!!




The post above by danielfonseca is spot on. to be honest I am sick of hearing Rodgers talk about his style & philosophy - this period where he has to adapt - put his money where his mouth is due to the squad limitations, will tell us whether he has the abilities the hype seems to want us to believe he has.

Jury still out for me to be honest.

I am a Rafa fan and still can't believe he was overlooked. He still has so much to offer I can't believe he was not considered.

Another wonderful decision by Ian Ayre.

The two quotes above are a few of the reasons why I have recently dread login into Rawk.  We are only three games into a season and people are using league position as some stick to beat our manager.

And to constantly beat on about Rafa and stat that you are a Rafa man is quite idoitic.  It would be safe to say that most on Rawk support Rafa, as do I, but that has nothing to do with Rodgers.  He is our manager.  That is the end of it.

Lastly, people going on about Rodgers being all talk.  1 its an international break so most local writers are going to write puff pieces about Liverpool as there's not much else going on.  2 all of these pieces have come from 1 interview with Rodgers.
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2012, 06:53:40 pm »
Yup changing from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is completely changing the philosophy of the academy  :butt. You obviously have an axe to grind against Rodger's and will use very opportunity to do so, what was it he said about the third group of fans?

Not to mention Borrell and Segura stated they wanted to work with 433 when they came, but were told to use 4231.

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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2012, 07:19:38 pm »
Mentioning Sacchi , there are similarities on how Rodgers and Saachi see the game.

Both believe their team should own the ball and own the pitch and control space when defending.Sacchi liked 5 men ahead of the ball and that is an area i would like to see Liverpool improve under Rodgers , getting more bodies in the box therefore getting the midfielders chipping in with more goals.

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2012, 07:22:31 pm »
::)

He successfully implemented his way of playing to Swansea. And that's what he wants to do at Liverpool - otherwise what's the point?

Liverpool have far better players than Swansea, so it's likely we will do better, as we did last season. Rodgers will have a higher budget to get a higher quality of player than he would at Swansea.

I'm more concerned how people aren't giving him a chance. He's talking the talk because he knows his stuff, not making shit up that he isn't gonna try and do. What do you want him to be like, Hodgson - utterly inept?

Of course I dont ffs. I am very impressed with Rodgers so far! I was merely pointing out that using the limited success at Swansea as our goal isnt inspiring

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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2012, 07:26:04 pm »
More talk.....great  :-\

To be fair, the way I understand it is that he talked to members of various LFC-sites and they are now just publishing what was said during that meeting. It's not as if Rodgers is running around in the streets with a sign "Will pay you 5 pounds, if you interview me" around his neck. So, to use it against him, that he actually took time to talk to people like Dave Usher or Veinticinco de Mayo and them publishing articles about that meeting, is not fair...

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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2012, 07:30:41 pm »

Lastly, people going on about Rodgers being all talk.  1 its an international break so most local writers are going to write puff pieces about Liverpool as there's not much else going on.  2 all of these pieces have come from 1 interview with Rodgers.


Don't start using facts to take away some people's excuse to give the manager another unprovoked kicking.
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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2012, 07:41:03 pm »
They were a different class to us last year mate. Utterly.

Let's get some perspective here, they played really well at Anfield (but failed to score), but they scored fewer goals than Blackburn, Bolton and Norwich (who they finished level with them and beat them home and away), they failed to score in 15 PL games and they finished below us and were removed from both cups early doors (Bolton and Shrewsbury). I thought they passed the ball really well but in the last third they were pretty average.

So let's not get too excited
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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2012, 07:46:48 pm »
::)

He successfully implemented his way of playing to Swansea. And that's what he wants to do at Liverpool - otherwise what's the point?

Liverpool have far better players than Swansea, so it's likely we will do better, as we did last season. Rodgers will have a higher budget to get a higher quality of player than he would at Swansea.

I'm more concerned how people aren't giving him a chance. He's talking the talk because he knows his stuff, not making shit up that he isn't gonna try and do. What do you want him to be like, Hodgson - utterly inept?

Having watched Swansea play the other week I'm only partially convinced we have better players. You can see that Joe Allen is our best performing player this year, our players seem to be struggling with some basics (ie looking up, moving and passing) which you might expect from a highly paid professional. Swansea have some great players who understand the basics. I remain unconvinced that it should take a professional footballer so long to understand basics which is, after all, the essence of what is being done. It's not like we're telling people used to passing to keep hold of the ball and make killer passes or beat 2/3 players which would be harder.
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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2012, 08:05:32 pm »
Let's get some perspective here, they played really well at Anfield (but failed to score), but they scored fewer goals than Blackburn, Bolton and Norwich (who they finished level with them and beat them home and away), they failed to score in 15 PL games and they finished below us and were removed from both cups early doors (Bolton and Shrewsbury). I thought they passed the ball really well but in the last third they were pretty average.

So let's not get too excited


I think that is a fair assessment. Whilst they were neat and tidy of the ball, they didn't score many goals. However, i think with better players in the front 3 positions, the system has the potential to be lethal

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2012, 08:11:13 pm »
I do think Rodgers have spoken quite a lot and to be honest, I like it.
Things would've been much worse if we didn't have Rodgers' interview to discuss and if he hadn't nipped despair over a lost signing in the bud, amongst other things. I'm glad we can discuss football.

He's been asked about his philosophy- more so than any other manager in England at this time, so he's going to talk about it. I can also clearly see that he is trying to put us at ease as supporters- to let us know that he knows what he's talking about. To divulge his philosophy and let us be the judge.

The personnel at the club can do nothing right, it seems. If Rodgers had sold himself short, we'd moan that he isn't the right person, because he doesn't seem to know what he's doing and that he seems to be under pressure, coupled with the adiditonal- "he's too young", "he's won feckall" etc...
If he declined to talk much about football, there would be other questions asked such as his getting along with the players, Luis, what he thinks of the owners and the new stadium etc.. If he says something about it- because he will(the pressure is too heavy), he would be accused of hanging our dirty linen out for everyone to see etc...

What happened to LFC supporters? Aren't we "dreamers"? Don't we dare to dream? Don't we dare to dream of trophies and football and our future, our club and our players?

Wouldn't we want to finally forget about the rest of the shite around English football and the shite that surrounded us and discuss- ya know- football? It wasn;t long ago when- and yet is- when we were bemoaning the fact that we don't dream anymore, that we don't discuss football anymore? Fuck results in the short term! We know stability brings success. Let's dream, let's support our manager. We have a unique manager who may be a bit too energetic, but he can be a great manager for us. He is trying to build something here.

Ferguson- though we hate him- was a young manager when he came to United(yes, he upset the world with Aberdeen), but English football and the institution was completely new to him and he had a bad start, but he managed to bring success to United under simialr circumstances: Owners who realised they will not be able to compete unless they fulfill their commercial potential and set out to do so, while appointing a young manager to "contest" our dominance. We were nearing the end of our reign and United under Ferguson at least, are doing the same.

The circumstances are simialr and if we get this right, we can claim back our perch!
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"Some listen to understand. Others listen to respond."
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."
In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2012, 08:24:24 pm »

I think that is a fair assessment. Whilst they were neat and tidy of the ball, they didn't score many goals. However, i think with better players in the front 3 positions, the system has the potential to be lethal
Thing is- they didn't score so much because you need much better talent and depth to do much better, but also Swansea had players who started out 2 leagues below the Premier League!

To be able to get that much out of those players was a miracle- that was down to both Roberto and Rodgers, but Rodgers took them farther and finished higher up than Roberto did with a better, more stable squad who were experienced in the Premier League and also had a more experienced manager, playing a more attacking football than possession football.
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"Some listen to understand. Others listen to respond."
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."
In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2012, 08:29:15 pm »
Let's get some perspective here, they played really well at Anfield (but failed to score), but they scored fewer goals than Blackburn, Bolton and Norwich (who they finished level with them and beat them home and away), they failed to score in 15 PL games and they finished below us and were removed from both cups early doors (Bolton and Shrewsbury). I thought they passed the ball really well but in the last third they were pretty average.

So let's not get too excited
I appreciate your facts and figures but Liverpool were abysmal last season, cup aside. We deserved to be there in the finals on merit but overall - Swansea were in my opinion a far better side with the players they had at their disposal.
I wasn't getting excited, nor excitable; just honest
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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2012, 08:29:49 pm »
He sure does talk the talk (a lot) can he walk the walk?

For me,the jury's out.

As it should be after 3 league games  ::)

Early signs promising, let's just enjoy the ride!

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2012, 08:36:32 pm »
More talk.....great  :-\
Is it?

Thought it was taken from the one press conference Rodgers gave to various forums last week, just another thread on it.

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2012, 08:41:19 pm »
He sure does talk the talk (a lot) can he walk the walk?

For me,the jury's out.

To be fair, Brend has been quite talkative during the international break... I think it's the new club policy to try to communicate with different media outlets and fan sites when the opportunity arises.

I think it's a good thing that the club are trying to give fans and media more access

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2012, 08:49:12 pm »
To be fair, Brend has been quite talkative during the international break... I think it's the new club policy to try to communicate with different media outlets and fan sites when the opportunity arises.

I think it's a good thing that the club are trying to give fans and media more access

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2012, 08:50:38 pm »
I appreciate your facts and figures but Liverpool were abysmal last season, cup aside. We deserved to be there in the finals on merit but overall - Swansea were in my opinion a far better side with the players they had at their disposal.
I wasn't getting excited, nor excitable; just honest

No they weren't (and don't dismiss the cups like they don't count, beating City, Chelsea, Everton, United still counts)

We had some poor games early doors but outplayed many teams without finishing the job, we were 4pts off a CL place in February and poor in the PL for two months at the end but please remember that although we lost games like Arsenal, WBA, QPR we outplayed them.

A bit too much revisionism going on here. It was, after all, the new manager's first season and we seem to only to keen to afford Brendan a lot longer before making judgement. We're already 6 points behind where we were at the same point last year. I'm totally happy to Give Brendan the time to sort things out but way too many people are re-writing history with selective memory.

Swansea did comparably better considering where they came from (or looked better when you saw them) but ultimately they did no better than Norwich. They look good in that White kit, makes them look like Real Madrid.  They did benefit from that first year syndrome where the opposition don't know what to expect, Blackpool, Norwich, Ipswich etc, have had this also then faded but they are doing even better this year when you consider they've sold two of their best players.
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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2012, 08:51:49 pm »
I quite like him explaining his views on how football should be played, shows someone who is deeply dedicated to his vision, and is clearly a big student of the game. Not unlike a recent past manager who many (me included) like still.

As long as he also follows through on this I've no problem.

Same. No issues at all with him talking, explaining etc etc to those who want to hear.

I do. And I feel that he'll put his all into making it happen.

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Re: From "The Liverpool Way" - Brendan Rodgers - It's All About The Style
« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2012, 09:15:30 pm »
Just watched the entire interview seemed to talk a lot of sense to me. We have played 3 league and some on hear are already writing him off which frankly lunacy.

If you spent anytime watching Swansea last season they played us off the park hone and away and got a standing ovation at Anfield.

Show the man some respect and grant him some patience to put in place what needs be done, as our form under Kenny at the end of last season was that of a relegation side.

And the whole Rafa thing it's like lusting over an old girlfriend who is never coming back, we can't keep living in the past.

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