Author Topic: Fly the Flag? It takes two to make everything go right... (Read 8123 times)

Harinder · « **on:** October 28, 2012, 12:58:05 am »

...It takes two to make it out of sight

Very simple this one (I think). We, the RAWK collective, have over the years gone by designed and then created a fair few banners.

Where have they gone? Are they gathering dust now that the initial new toy feeling has dissipated? Have they been so well travelled that they have now been consumed by that popular pastime
of being a bit too merry and poor banner became a victim of circumstance?

Some that spring to mind on here

"Smokin Joe"
"El Pistolero"
"Digger 10" (disclaimer. I know about this one. It will be back soon!)

That's just a few. There are many others. These aren't banners for finals. They're for life

What if you don't have a banner but, well, ya know you want to be an active flag/banner flyer? You've got the "cojones" but no items of yer own. There is a way for yourselves too. The very good
and supremely well stocked HJC may have few that are waiting to see daylight again.

A very good man and poster here on RAWK called Stoz is the person you'll see along with others marshalling an effort just next to the kop entrance below the scoreboard. Those lovely ones of
Paisley and Sir Roger Hunt to name but a few are setup by these guys. They can show you the way for getting what you have out onto the Kop. I would assume they'd also be able to give pointers
on ones sitting in the HJC awaiting a kind soul or two.

In the words of a very old tv programme for the youth... Why Don't You?

Jonathan Hall ☆☆☆☆☆☆ · « **Reply #1 on:** October 28, 2012, 01:01:00 am »

Don't big up Stoz FFS, i have to live with him, we have poles in the front room and a giant poppy to add to the paisley banner...

Tomo! · « **Reply #2 on:** October 28, 2012, 01:04:05 am »

Quote from: Jonathan Hall ☆☆☆☆☆ on October 28, 2012, 01:01:00 am

Don't big up Stoz FFS, i have to live with him, we have poles in the front room and a giant poppy to add to the paisley banner...

These poles in your front room do you charge them rent or are they mates?

Jonathan Hall ☆☆☆☆☆☆ · « **Reply #3 on:** October 28, 2012, 01:06:10 am »

Quote from: Tomo! on October 28, 2012, 01:04:05 am

These poles in your front room do you charge them rent or are they mates?

We should charge the fuckers...

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #4 on:** October 28, 2012, 01:17:26 am »

Quote from: Tomo! on October 28, 2012, 01:04:05 am

These poles in your front room do you charge them rent or are they mates?

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #5 on:** October 28, 2012, 02:23:40 am »

Quote from: Harinder on October 28, 2012, 12:58:05 am

Just out of curiosity, did you run your flag by Ged Poynton before setting it up in the Kop the other night?

I was asking one of the head stewards about bringing mine, and was told that Ged had to give permission first.

I was explaining that it's just a flag, not a surfer, and was told, no. all flags must be checked first.

Which I thought was a bit bizarre.

Harinder · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2012, 08:19:24 am »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on October 28, 2012, 02:23:40 am

Just out of curiosity, did you run your flag by Ged Poynton before setting it up in the Kop the other night?

I was asking one of the head stewards about bringing mine, and was told that Ged had to give permission first.

I was explaining that it's just a flag, not a surfer, and was told, no. all flags must be checked first.

Which I thought was a bit bizarre.

Nope. Went via Stoz. One of the stewards that looks after matchday hospitality and then, as I found out the next day, the Anfield experiences wished that more would appear

Claire. · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2012, 11:52:51 am »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on October 28, 2012, 02:23:40 am

Just out of curiosity, did you run your flag by Ged Poynton before setting it up in the Kop the other night?

I was asking one of the head stewards about bringing mine, and was told that Ged had to give permission first.

I was explaining that it's just a flag, not a surfer, and was told, no. all flags must be checked first.

Which I thought was a bit bizarre.

I've taken flags in without asking before and didn't have an issue. Steward's on the gate just wanted a nosey to see what it said more than anything.

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2012, 12:35:55 pm »

Yeah. I was enquiring more about what variety of flag poles I could take in, more than the flag itself, so was a little bit confused when he said Ged Poynton had to check it over first.

stoz · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2012, 12:38:20 pm »

The surfers which go over the crowd, must have been fireprooed and hold an up to date certificate. Otherwise, they're OK.

Doc Evil · « **Reply #10 on:** October 29, 2012, 05:06:53 pm »

Quote from: Harinder on October 28, 2012, 12:58:05 am

"Digger 10" (disclaimer. I know about this one. It will be back soon!)

Yeah I'll get it sorted mate!!

Jake · « **Reply #11 on:** October 29, 2012, 07:24:20 pm »

I remember me and AnfieldIron stayed up all night pre-Villa 2 seasons ago, made a huge flag and when I got to the game with it in my bag was told I couldn't bring it in, so stashed in in Stanley Park pre-match and picked it up on the way back.

Gutted!

stoz · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2012, 02:12:46 pm »

Quote from: Le Jake on October 29, 2012, 07:24:20 pm

I remember me and AnfieldIron stayed up all night pre-Villa 2 seasons ago, made a huge flag and when I got to the game with it in my bag was told I couldn't bring it in, so stashed in in Stanley Park pre-match and picked it up on the way back.

Gutted!

Just had a look back and found that one. An absolutely cracking banner, and one which should be out. Did it ever make an appearance? I don't recall so. Another one to add to Harinders list above of brilliant banners. Also the King Kenny one. We helped get that one displayed at Kennys first home game back as manager, and it hasn't been seen since. Rodgers has been in the job long enough now for it not to be deemed as insensitive to bring out, and anyway it depicts Kenny as a player, not a manager.

Come on guys, with a site this big and considering the number of you who have made contributions, either financially or with input into designs etc.... there must be at least a small handful of people who will help to get some of these banners out into the ground at least occasionally. It doesn't take up a great deal of your time, and we will help you the first time with the procedure, but it's really straightforward and once you've done it the first time you'll be fine on your own. Also, as Harinder will no doubt confirm, there is no greater feeling on a matchday than standing at the front of the Kop holding a flag which you have been a part of creating.

Hij · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2012, 03:14:34 pm »

Can't afford to get up to Anfield at the minute but wanted to bump this thread because its always so excellent to see the Kop full of banners and flags

Harinder · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2012, 04:42:38 pm »

Quote from: stoz on October 30, 2012, 02:12:46 pm

Just had a look back and found that one. An absolutely cracking banner, and one which should be out. Did it ever make an appearance? I don't recall so. Another one to add to Harinders list above of brilliant banners. Also the King Kenny one. We helped get that one displayed at Kennys first home game back as manager, and it hasn't been seen since. Rodgers has been in the job long enough now for it not to be deemed as insensitive to bring out, and anyway it depicts Kenny as a player, not a manager.

Come on guys, with a site this big and considering the number of you who have made contributions, either financially or with input into designs etc.... there must be at least a small handful of people who will help to get some of these banners out into the ground at least occasionally. It doesn't take up a great deal of your time, and we will help you the first time with the procedure, but it's really straightforward and once you've done it the first time you'll be fine on your own. Also, as Harinder will no doubt confirm, there is no greater feeling on a matchday than standing at the front of the Kop holding a flag which you have been a part of creating.

Couldn't agree more. The sense of pride of actually going from the page, to print, to Kop is amazing. Having any banner in front of the Kop is a terrific feeling. This one, sentiments and size aside, will always hold a special place as it was a first for me and made even better by all the help received on the day. It's something to tell your kids about. You can actually say you were part of our traditions that held high a flag/banner on the Kop.

From an opportunity perspective look at it this way, 2 people from RAWK on the Kop can lift a banner up and all you need to do is be there. A bit of pre-organisation on here and you're away. Are we saying we it's impossible? For all the post match thread stuff you'd believe half of RAWK came from the kop

stoz · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2012, 09:19:02 pm »

Quote from: Hij on October 30, 2012, 03:14:34 pm

Can't afford to get up to Anfield at the minute but wanted to bump this thread because its always so excellent to see the Kop full of banners and flags

It is indeed Hij. Kennys first game back as manager was amazing. Everyone got together and helped each other, to produce a fantastic display including many rarely seen banners. Not come close to repeating that day, sadly.

Only Me · « **Reply #16 on:** October 31, 2012, 12:41:52 pm »

Think its a reflection of the lack of matchgoing people on the Forum, sadly.

Added to the ticketing policies, which mean that those who have no season ticket, but do go regularly, don't always get to choose where they sit.

Bit piss poor though that in a stand of about 13,000 people, containing "the best fans in the world", a couple of dozen regulars can't be found to wave flags around for a few minutes each game. Even if the flags are a result of someone elses effort and financial layout.

Never thought I'd see the day when the Kop was so bland, quiet and un-arsed. Still, that's modern football fans for you.

Congratulations on the Kesey banner, by the way - fantastic effort that. Pity there aren't a few more like you.

Harinder · « **Reply #17 on:** October 31, 2012, 01:26:19 pm »

I think "We Climbed the Hill" will be flown again today by 24/7

He may need a hand so anyone who can aid meet the lads/lasses under the scoreboard (corner of Kop) at 7.30pm

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #18 on:** October 31, 2012, 04:35:18 pm »

Quote from: Harinder on October 31, 2012, 01:26:19 pm

I think "We Climbed the Hill" will be flown again today by 24/7

He may need a hand so anyone who can aid meet the lads/lasses under the scoreboard (corner of Kop) at 7.30pm

I've recruited Welshred (Chris) to help with this and will send Jim his number

Harinder · « **Reply #19 on:** October 31, 2012, 04:36:02 pm »

Quote from: The 5th Benitle on October 31, 2012, 04:35:18 pm

I've recruited Welshred (Chris) to help with this and will send Jim his number

stoz · « **Reply #20 on:** October 31, 2012, 05:50:49 pm »

OK guys, there's a couple of potential issues tonight, mainly due to the weather. It's been blustery quite a bit of the day here, and also raining, which can affect where we drop the banners down to for the first half, before dismantling at HT. I'll have a check when I get in, as conditions outside are not always the same inside.

Anyway, if anyone is watching tonights game and wonders why the banner isn't there, it will more than likely be for this reason. It may also be that it is dropped down a minute or two before the end of YNWA, so that those holding it have time to take it off the poles and put it into the bag, rather than it getting dirty laying in the moat. Fingers crossed everything will be OK though.

Rome-77 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 31, 2012, 06:48:53 pm »

this is what makes us unique,

stoz · « **Reply #22 on:** October 31, 2012, 08:17:21 pm »

Banner was up in same place. 7.45 to almost kick off

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #23 on:** October 31, 2012, 08:27:11 pm »

Excellent

smig · « **Reply #24 on:** November 1, 2012, 01:12:28 am »

I'll try and get "Smokin' Joe" out for the Young Boys game lads. Do you reckon the HJC shop will be sound with me storing the pole in there on a regular basis?

stoz · « **Reply #25 on:** November 1, 2012, 02:28:22 pm »

Quote from: smig on November 1, 2012, 01:12:28 am

I'll try and get "Smokin' Joe" out for the Young Boys game lads. Do you reckon the HJC shop will be sound with me storing the pole in there on a regular basis?

Hello Smig

Firstly, the HJC will be closed after the game (it doesn't open after any midweek matches).

However as it is only one pole which you have, would it not be better simply to take it home after each game? The people who have flags in the HJC generally have a number of flags/poles, and each have some sort of pole bag which each can clearly idenitify as theirs. One pole on its own could possibly be mislaid, or mistook by someone else as one of theirs.

Matt8Pie · « **Reply #26 on:** November 1, 2012, 02:34:01 pm »

Where's the Kenny banner gone recently?

Where's the Suarez banner?

Where's the Kenny and Suarez banner?

stoz · « **Reply #27 on:** November 1, 2012, 02:39:21 pm »

Quote from: Matt8Pie on November 1, 2012, 02:34:01 pm

Where's the Kenny banner gone recently?

Where's the Suarez banner?

Where's the Kenny and Suarez banner?

That's been asked further up. The King banner is brilliant, and definitely needs getting out. The Kenny/Suarez one is petty much redundant now though.

The problem is not the number or quality of banners, but getting people to display them.

john_mac · « **Reply #28 on:** November 1, 2012, 08:18:08 pm »

Quote from: stoz on November 1, 2012, 02:39:21 pm

That's been asked further up. The King banner is brilliant, and definitely needs getting out. The Kenny/Suarez one is petty much redundant now though.

The problem is not the number or quality of banners, but getting people to display them.

Need to get more in the hospitality sections of the ground, its the future, corporate banners for corporate seats

Harinder · « **Reply #29 on:** November 1, 2012, 08:20:09 pm »

Quote from: john_mac on November 1, 2012, 08:18:08 pm

Need to get more in the hospitality sections of the ground, its the future, corporate banners for corporate seats

I err can help there

blackie2009 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 2, 2012, 03:13:55 pm »

if it is any use i can get 'bannerflex' at cost price??

stoz · « **Reply #31 on:** November 2, 2012, 04:31:53 pm »

Quote from: blackie2009 on November 2, 2012, 03:13:55 pm

if it is any use i can get 'bannerflex' at cost price??

What's that mate?

blackie2009 · « **Reply #32 on:** November 2, 2012, 06:03:59 pm »

Its a flexible vinyl which can be used to make banners with, if you have a vinyl cutter its ideal

stoz · « **Reply #33 on:** November 2, 2012, 06:40:19 pm »

Quote from: blackie2009 on November 2, 2012, 06:03:59 pm

Its a flexible vinyl which can be used to make banners with, if you have a vinyl cutter its ideal

Ah right. The banners we do however, are designed by ourselves and ordered through a company online. Not sure whether that sort of material would be too thick, but I'm sure someone could take you up on youur kind offer if they are looking tomake their own from scratch.

HermanToothrot · « **Reply #34 on:** November 2, 2012, 06:47:53 pm »

I made my own banners once. Looked terrible, but decorated my living room for years, until i moved house.
Still got them somewhere.

smig · « **Reply #35 on:** November 5, 2012, 01:08:22 am »

Quote from: stoz on November 1, 2012, 02:28:22 pm

Hello Smig

Firstly, the HJC will be closed after the game (it doesn't open after any midweek matches).

However as it is only one pole which you have, would it not be better simply to take it home after each game? The people who have flags in the HJC generally have a number of flags/poles, and each have some sort of pole bag which each can clearly idenitify as theirs. One pole on its own could possibly be mislaid, or mistook by someone else as one of theirs.

Cheers Stoz, I didn't know it closed after the match midweek. It's not a big deal, just a bit of an inconvenience carting the pole around the boozer before the game.