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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2017, 08:00:36 pm »
Senate intelligence confirming essentially what I initially posted about Russias involvement in Montenegro and now in different european countries

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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2017, 09:50:57 am »
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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2017, 11:15:31 am »
Paul Ryan mentioned yesterday that he thinks it is important to investigate for a few reasons including the upcoming European elections. He must have been informed about the scope of Russia's involvement in other elections, not just in the US.
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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #43 on: April 3, 2017, 01:50:14 am »
Comment on dit en Belgique ou La France, quelle surprise!
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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #44 on: April 3, 2017, 02:49:54 pm »
Obama's counterterrorism advisor, Lisa Monaco, did an interview with Politico. It's not got any particularly new revelations about Russian involvement within the US election but it does confirm some more about why the Obama administration acted as it did during the election as well as why the evidence which directly points at Russia is somewhat hazy.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/obama-russia-hacking-trump-214976

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By going public before the election with evidence that the Kremlin was trying to help Donald Trump , the Obama team feared, they’d be accused of intervening to help Hillary Clinton. So they mostly kept quiet despite intense lobbying from fellow Democrats to say more before the voting.

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“We treated it very much in the way that we have done other malicious activity by cyber actors,” Monaco says, choosing to turn the case over to the FBI and intelligence agencies to figure out how and when to “attribute” the attack publicly without giving away the evidence used to reach that conclusion. “We applied the same framework that we have in other contexts, whether it was China stealing intellectual property, whether it’s Iran committing denial of service attacks on our financial institutions, whether it’s North Korea in the Sony attack,” Monaco says. “We applied a framework and a playbook that we have done many times.”

There are also suggestions (eg NYT) that GCHQ here were among the first to flag up to the Americans that the DNC hacks were being directed from Russia. GCHQ have certainly written to political parties offering them assistance with protecting their systems in light of what happened in the States and Germany and other places all linked to what is being labelled as Russian hacking. (Reuters).

It's not often you get the French, the Germans, us and the Americans all on the same page about something. It would suggest either everyone has gone stark raving bonkers or that there is something there - no matter how coy Western intelligence agencies are being with the precise details of how they know.
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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #45 on: April 3, 2017, 03:38:04 pm »
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-diplomats-deaths-theories-putin-kremlin-a7602201.html

Unexpected deaths of six Russian diplomats in four months triggers conspiracy theories

Several deaths have been described as 'heart attacks' or the result of a 'brief illness' by officials, in some cases despite evidence to the contrary


Could of course be unrelated to each other and perfectly natural. Could also be something else.
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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2018, 11:11:37 am »
Kremlin critic Bill Browder arrested by Spanish authorities

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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2018, 11:20:57 am »
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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2018, 11:33:05 am »
Released.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44301072

Just saw that

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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #49 on: May 30, 2018, 12:34:02 pm »
Lest it hasn't been mentioned in this thread before, Browder and Magnitsky have revealed deep and total corruption within Russia, at the very highest level. His senate hearing is nothing short of a spy thriller with gruesome details. https://www.c-span.org/video/?431852-1/william-browder-overturning-magnitsky-act-putins-top-priority (starts around 7 minutes in)
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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2018, 04:33:20 pm »
That Magnistsky case was written about in "Deception" by Edward Lucas, even if half of what was written is true its quite scary

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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2018, 05:53:12 pm »
Ukraine staged the murder of a Russian dissident journalist in Kiev on Tuesday in what it said was a sting operation to foil a Russian assassination

Arkady Babchenko sent shockwaves around the world when he arrived at a press conference on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after he was reported dead.

The head of Ukraine's security services, Vasyl Hrytsak, said the elaborate sting was set up to catch hitmen paid by Russian forces.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-44307611?

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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2018, 07:29:51 pm »
Ukraine staged the murder of a Russian dissident journalist in Kiev on Tuesday in what it said was a sting operation to foil a Russian assassination

Arkady Babchenko sent shockwaves around the world when he arrived at a press conference on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after he was reported dead.

The head of Ukraine's security services, Vasyl Hrytsak, said the elaborate sting was set up to catch hitmen paid by Russian forces.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-44307611?


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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2018, 08:38:08 pm »
Ukraine staged the murder of a Russian dissident journalist in Kiev on Tuesday in what it said was a sting operation to foil a Russian assassination

Arkady Babchenko sent shockwaves around the world when he arrived at a press conference on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after he was reported dead.

The head of Ukraine's security services, Vasyl Hrytsak, said the elaborate sting was set up to catch hitmen paid by Russian forces.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-44307611?

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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #54 on: May 30, 2018, 09:51:08 pm »
I am very confused

Maybe the Ukrainian Secret Service also faked the Ramos wrestling move on Saleh whilst they were at it. ;)

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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #55 on: May 30, 2018, 10:24:08 pm »
Those Russian paid hit men will be looking over their shoulders for awhile methinks.
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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2018, 08:29:33 am »
Very interesting interview. Her book Iron Curtain: The Crushing of Eastern Europe is great. I believe tend to lean conservative (she says she is centre-right), but as a rational one, who has no time for what she terms as "the conservative media entertainment complex" and the anti-intellectualism of the contemporary GOP.

It's a good read, her family background gives her "skin in the game" and of course, that of her spouse and his background.
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Re: Russia's involvement
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2018, 11:01:56 am »
next they'll say Britain faked the death of Skripal's cat and guinea pigs
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