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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #401 on: August 4, 2016, 08:26:49 pm »
Cats can be rather selfish, and evolution explains why

Anyone who has lived with a cat knows they are prone to self-regard, but as our video explains, they have been shaped by the process of domestication



http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160707-cats-are-kind-of-selfish-and-evolution-explains-why

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #402 on: August 4, 2016, 08:27:47 pm »
Is this the world's cutest cat?

No not this one. Her kitten, which has made its debut at the UK's Chester Zoo


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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #403 on: August 5, 2016, 01:44:40 pm »
Humpback whales around the globe are mysteriously rescuing animals from orcas

It's interesting behaviour, but it's just behaviour. There's nothing inherently 'intelligent' about discouraging predators. I occasionally get a sparrowhawk in my garden, and all the birds go nuts when it's hunting, irrespective of which species of bird the sparrowhawk is chasing. Although we all cheer when it catches a fucking wood pigeon. 

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #404 on: August 5, 2016, 02:17:17 pm »
It's interesting behaviour, but it's just behaviour. There's nothing inherently 'intelligent' about discouraging predators.

You'd be surprised how many people think animals have no morals, or no ability to act altruistically, that they are simply survival machines. I think that is certainly linked to intelligence, or at least how intelligent people think animals are.

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #405 on: August 5, 2016, 06:26:17 pm »
It's interesting behaviour, but it's just behaviour. There's nothing inherently 'intelligent' about discouraging predators. I occasionally get a sparrowhawk in my garden, and all the birds go nuts when it's hunting, irrespective of which species of bird the sparrowhawk is chasing. Although we all cheer when it catches a fucking wood pigeon.
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #406 on: September 6, 2016, 01:53:18 pm »

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #407 on: September 6, 2016, 02:07:07 pm »

I wonder do they do it in octal, though I suppose if you include their two tentacles, that does give them a capability for base 10...
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #408 on: September 6, 2016, 02:17:43 pm »

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #409 on: October 13, 2016, 06:34:01 pm »
Well Gorillas aint too smart. One has escaped from Regents park zoo. Its rush hour, he'll never get a cab now, idiot.
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #410 on: October 13, 2016, 08:30:40 pm »
Well Gorillas aint too smart. One has escaped from Regents park zoo. Its rush hour, he'll never get a cab now, idiot.
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #411 on: November 10, 2016, 03:06:14 am »
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #412 on: November 10, 2016, 02:30:05 pm »
Any one who's not watching Planet Earth 2, get on it. Sunday evenings BBC1.

Those outside the UK, sure you'll know websites where you can watch BBC stuff  ;)

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #413 on: November 21, 2016, 10:16:58 am »

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #415 on: February 27, 2017, 11:24:59 am »
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/02/bees-can-train-each-other-to-use-tools/

I've just been out to my Hives and left a socket set and some spanners for them.... ;)

But yes, they are really interesting little creatures and we still have much to learn about them.
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #416 on: February 27, 2017, 12:21:56 pm »
I've just been out to my Hives and left a socket set and some spanners for them.... ;)

But yes, they are really interesting little creatures and we still have much to learn about them.

I will be doing my IRP on solitary bees  :)

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #417 on: March 1, 2017, 05:25:23 pm »
Not sure if this is a sign of intelligence but he seems to be having fun....

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #418 on: March 1, 2017, 06:38:27 pm »

At a guess, it looks like it thinks it's an egg or a strange mollusc and is perhaps trying to crack it open.
After the first attempt the bounce seems to catch it unawares as to where exactly it's gone, it then spots it and then tries again.
(not sure exactly what bird species it is)
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #419 on: March 1, 2017, 06:40:12 pm »
I will be doing my IRP on solitary bees  :)

Sounds interesting. Will it be about UK species or more general?
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #420 on: March 1, 2017, 09:26:27 pm »
At a guess, it looks like it thinks it's an egg or a strange mollusc and is perhaps trying to crack it open.
After the first attempt the bounce seems to catch it unawares as to where exactly it's gone, it then spots it and then tries again.
(not sure exactly what bird species it is)

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #421 on: March 9, 2017, 05:53:01 pm »
Monkey teaches dumbass human how to survive.

Or possibly just using human for extra power.

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #422 on: March 29, 2017, 02:21:13 pm »
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #426 on: May 29, 2017, 04:06:51 pm »
All about elephants.

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #427 on: June 27, 2017, 02:26:16 pm »
Ravens remember people who suckered them into an unfair deal

By Katie Langin

Jun. 5, 2017

No one likes a con artist. People avoid dealing with characters who have swindled them in the past, and—according to new research—birds avoid those people, too. Ravens, known more for their intelligence, but only slightly less for their love of cheese, were trained by researchers to trade a crust of bread for a morsel of cheese with human partners. When the birds then tried to broker a trade with “fair” and “unfair” partners—some completed the trade as expected, but others took the raven’s bread and kept (and ate) the cheese—the ravens avoided the tricksters in separate trials a month later. This suggests that ravens can not only differentiate between “fair” and “unfair” individuals, but they retain that ability for at least a month, the researchers write this month in Animal Behavior. Ravens have a complex social life involving friendships and rivalries. Their ability to recognize and punish dishonest individuals, even after a single encounter, may help explain how cooperation evolved in this group of birds. For people, though, the moral of the story is simple: Be nice to ravens.

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #428 on: June 27, 2017, 02:34:34 pm »
Ravens remember people who suckered them into an unfair deal

By Katie Langin

Jun. 5, 2017

No one likes a con artist. People avoid dealing with characters who have swindled them in the past, and—according to new research—birds avoid those people, too. Ravens, known more for their intelligence, but only slightly less for their love of cheese, were trained by researchers to trade a crust of bread for a morsel of cheese with human partners. When the birds then tried to broker a trade with “fair” and “unfair” partners—some completed the trade as expected, but others took the raven’s bread and kept (and ate) the cheese—the ravens avoided the tricksters in separate trials a month later. This suggests that ravens can not only differentiate between “fair” and “unfair” individuals, but they retain that ability for at least a month, the researchers write this month in Animal Behavior. Ravens have a complex social life involving friendships and rivalries. Their ability to recognize and punish dishonest individuals, even after a single encounter, may help explain how cooperation evolved in this group of birds. For people, though, the moral of the story is simple: Be nice to ravens.

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #431 on: August 10, 2017, 12:03:16 am »
Bees are first insects shown to understand the concept of zero

I'm not convinced that their preference for a platform with no shapes indicates a knowledge of the mathematical concept of zero.

While I completely understand they have evolved some clever, complex and deep things like dancing, I would interpret it as simply the less clutter on the platform indicates they get more reward.

Having said that, my lot seem to have definitely grasped the concept of zero when it comes to honey production over the last couple of years, it's not been great so far and talking to a few other keepers in the area it seems I'm not alone.

I had a dib into the hives in mid June but they hadn't capped any of the combs so I've left them well alone, though I do intend hopefully robbing them sometime over the next couple of weeks.
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #432 on: November 9, 2017, 11:49:37 am »
Sheep 'can recognise human faces'

Sheep have demonstrated the ability to recognise familiar human faces, according to a study.
Cambridge University researchers were able to train sheep to identify the faces of actors Jake Gyllenhaal and Emma Watson, former US President Barack Obama and BBC newsreader Fiona Bruce.
After training, the sheep chose photos of familiar faces over unfamiliar ones significantly more often than not.
It shows that sheep possess similar face recognition abilities to primates.
Previous studies had shown that sheep could identify other sheep and human handlers that they already knew.
"What we did is ask whether a sheep could learn to recognise someone from a photograph," the study's lead author Prof Jenny Morton said.
"We focused on whether or not an animal was capable of processing a two-dimensional object as a person."

Eight female Welsh Mountain sheep were trained to distinguish the four celebrity faces from pictures of unfamiliar people, using food pellets as a reward.
The ruminants were shown different photos on two computer screens; the sheep made their choice by breaking an infrared beam with their noses to release the treat.
After establishing the animals' ability to recognise the celebrities, researchers set them a new task. They wanted to see whether the farm animals could correctly identify the same celebrities when pictured from different angles.
Again, the animals' performance on this task was significantly above chance.
Finally, the researchers wanted to know if the sheep could recognise their handlers from a photo. Images of their custodians were randomly interspersed in a sequence of unfamiliar faces shown to them on the screens.
On this task too, the sheep didn't disappoint.
The results show that the animals' face-recognition abilities are similar to those of monkeys, apes - and humans.
The researchers say it might be interesting in future to investigate whether sheep can identify different expressions on human faces.
The work might even have implications for learning about neurodegenerative diseases, such as Huntington's and Parkinson's.
The research is published in the Royal Society journal Open Science.

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #433 on: November 12, 2017, 09:06:32 am »
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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #434 on: November 12, 2017, 12:54:43 pm »
Sounds interesting. Will it be about UK species or more general?

UK solitary bee species, in particular, the ones that are likely to use "bee hotels."

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #435 on: November 16, 2017, 10:56:54 am »
The higher the farther: distance-specific referential gestures in chimpanzees

Abstract

Referential signals, such as manual pointing or deictic words, allow individuals to efficiently locate a specific entity in the environment, using distance-specific linguistic and/or gestural units. To explore the evolutionary prerequisites of such deictic ability, the present study investigates the ability of chimpanzees to adjust their communicative signals to the distance of a referent. A food-request paradigm in which the chimpanzees had to request a close or distant piece of food on a table in the presence/absence of an experimenter was employed. Our main finding concerns the chimpanzees adjusting their requesting behaviours to the distance of the food such that higher manual gestures and larger mouth openings were used to request the distant piece of food. To the best of our knowledge, this is the first study to demonstrate that chimpanzees are able to use distance-specific gestures.

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« Reply #436 on: November 16, 2017, 12:43:19 pm »
The higher the farther: distance-specific referential gestures in chimpanzees

Abstract

Referential signals, such as manual pointing or deictic words, allow individuals to efficiently locate a specific entity in the environment, using distance-specific linguistic and/or gestural units. To explore the evolutionary prerequisites of such deictic ability, the present study investigates the ability of chimpanzees to adjust their communicative signals to the distance of a referent. A food-request paradigm in which the chimpanzees had to request a close or distant piece of food on a table in the presence/absence of an experimenter was employed. Our main finding concerns the chimpanzees adjusting their requesting behaviours to the distance of the food such that higher manual gestures and larger mouth openings were used to request the distant piece of food. To the best of our knowledge, this is the first study to demonstrate that chimpanzees are able to use distance-specific gestures.

Full study

Is there anything in there to suggest they can tell the difference between cows that are small, and cows that are very far away?

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #437 on: November 16, 2017, 12:48:21 pm »
Is there anything in there to suggest they can tell the difference between cows that are small, and cows that are very far away?

That would be an ecumenical matter.

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #438 on: November 16, 2017, 01:48:05 pm »
That would be an ecumenical matter.

Yes. Yes, I suppose it would.

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Re: How Intelligent Are Other Animals?
« Reply #439 on: January 10, 2018, 04:13:10 pm »
Humpback whales around the globe are mysteriously rescuing animals from orcas

They seem to be the guardians of the sea.

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