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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #200 on: August 4, 2016, 11:54:23 am »
It's a tough one because they're both simply too good to bench. Similar to the Suarez / Sturridge conundrum in 13/14. I'd hope that Klopp will find a set up where Origi plays on the shoulder, stretching play and dominating CB's with his pace and power, while danny drops off slightly in the pocket and works his magic. If we do find a workable formation that includes both of them and that doesn't compromise our pressing game we'll be unplayable.
I agree - if Sturridge + Origi = 3/4 of Sturridge + Suarez then they'll be extremely difficult to play against.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #201 on: August 4, 2016, 12:47:18 pm »
Got a feeling its a big season for our Danny, has to prove his fitness and deliver over the majority of the season or i'd expect it could be his last in a red shirt, he's been a fantastic goal scorer for us - however it is imperative now he demonstrates his body has gotten over the injuries issues of yesteryear and we can depend on him being available for a large quantity of this season.

It'd certainly be one less headache moving forward if that is indeed is the situation, as he's got a fantastic record for us - lets hope all the frustrations of niggling injuries will be a thing of the past and we can have some genuine competition up top again with Sturridge top peacock displaying his feathers this year.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #202 on: August 4, 2016, 01:35:55 pm »
 I know Origi is on fire and deserving of a starting spot, but I wish I could see a front 4 of Sturridge, Coutinho, Firmino and Mane at it, being given the opportunity to gel I think they could do a lot of damage in the league once they are all on the same wave length.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #203 on: August 4, 2016, 04:00:28 pm »
It's a tough one because they're both simply too good to bench. Similar to the Suarez / Sturridge conundrum in 13/14. I'd hope that Klopp will find a set up where Origi plays on the shoulder, stretching play and dominating CB's with his pace and power, while danny drops off slightly in the pocket and works his magic. If we do find a workable formation that includes both of them and that doesn't compromise our pressing game we'll be unplayable.

It's a tough ask to fit them all in, for me we'd have to play a defensive 433, with Mane, Sturridge and Origi upfront, Lallana/Coutinho/Firmino just behind and then the two best we have at breaking up opposition play just behind the latter to control midfield.

For example:

Karius/Migs

Clyne.       Lovren/Matip.       Sahko/Klavan.       Moreno

Henderson/Lucas/Milner       Wijnaldum/Can/Grujic

Coutinho/Firmino/Lallana

Mane.            Sturridge.         Origi


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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #204 on: August 4, 2016, 04:24:47 pm »
I think the burst of pace over short distances is still there, as seen with his 1 v 1 vs Roma. The loss of pace over long distances is more debatable.
I think it's more mental than anything, he still seems in his head to be reticent about going 100% due to his injuries. Just my horseshit armchair opinion.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #205 on: August 4, 2016, 04:33:45 pm »
It's a tough ask to fit them all in, for me we'd have to play a defensive 433, with Mane, Sturridge and Origi upfront, Lallana/Coutinho/Firmino just behind and then the two best we have at breaking up opposition play just behind the latter to control midfield.

For example:

Karius/Migs

Clyne.       Lovren/Matip.       Sahko/Klavan.       Moreno

Henderson/Lucas/Milner       Wijnaldum/Can/Grujic

Coutinho/Firmino/Lallana

Mane.            Sturridge.         Origi

I think if I was to put them both on the pitch it'd be more as a 4-2-2-2 type setup

                           Karius
Clyne         Lovren        Sakho        Moreno
               Henderson        Can
          Milner                      Coutinho
                  Sturridge     Origi

I think that would work rather well.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #206 on: August 4, 2016, 04:40:44 pm »
Milner won't be taking a Midfield slot when everyone is fit, he has already said he will play anywhere (been asked to play FB).

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #207 on: August 4, 2016, 05:08:22 pm »
Origi - Sturridge
Firmino
Coutinho - Wijnaldum
Can
Milner - Sakho - Matip - Clyne
Karius

Lacking Mane, though.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #208 on: August 4, 2016, 06:02:25 pm »
Origi - Sturridge
Firmino
Coutinho - Wijnaldum
Can
Milner - Sakho - Matip - Clyne
Karius

Lacking Mane, though.
Man, I wish we'd play the diamond formation again!

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #209 on: August 4, 2016, 06:20:21 pm »
He still has pace he's just very economical with it, for the chipped effort against Roma he left the defence for dead. I wonder if it's a confidence thing more than anything, he hasn't looked slow exactly he just hasn't used his pace to run in behind much recently.

Agree with that but I don't think it's a confidence thing. I think confidence is one thing that Sturridge definitely doesn't lack.

My opinion is that when we played under Brendan, Sturridge played off the last defender much, much more than he has in recent times. In the 2013/14 season, for the goals against Arsenal, Everton, and many others, you had Sturridge employing a similar burst of pace to what we saw against Roma but the difference was that he was playing off the last defender and it would get him one-on-one against the goalkeeper as a result. I just haven't seen that from him and from our style of play in general over the last couple of seasons.

Not that it's a bad thing of course and now with the additions of Mane, Wjiji, a fully fit Henderson, maybe it's not even needed that much and Sturridge can be more instrumental in our build-up play as he's quite good in that department as well. And if he can refine the types of movements we saw against Roma, I think we can expect some exciting things from him and the team this year.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #210 on: August 4, 2016, 07:46:03 pm »
Origi - Sturridge
Firmino
Coutinho - Wijnaldum
Can
Milner - Sakho - Matip - Clyne
Karius

Lacking Mane, though.
That's the kind of thing I'd like to see us experiment with, with someone like Can or Lucas at the back moving back into defence as the full backs push up. Maybe a harder worker like Milner or Hendo next to Coutinho or Wijnaldum in midfield to add balance, and Mane or Ojo to replace one of the strikers as an alternate lineup. A player like Markovic would potentially flourish in the old Sterling role too, seeing as he can cover ground quickly and he has the technique to receive, keep and lay the ball on to speedy players like Sturridge and Origi.

Having Coutinho back in midfield to thread those through balls to Sturridge like he did in 2013 and 2014 wouldn't hurt either.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #211 on: August 5, 2016, 04:33:28 am »
Origi - Sturridge
Firmino
Coutinho - Wijnaldum
Can
Milner - Sakho - Matip - Clyne
Karius

Lacking Mane, though.

ohh!!! That does look good. Would love to see that some time.
Mane could easily replace, Wijnaldum there... Come to think of it. Mane and Wijnaldum can pretty much play all of those advanced midfield positions, with Coutinho able to play 2 of them.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #212 on: August 5, 2016, 05:58:16 am »
He still has pace he's just very economical with it, for the chipped effort against Roma he left the defence for dead. I wonder if it's a confidence thing more than anything, he hasn't looked slow exactly he just hasn't used his pace to run in behind much recently.

They talked about this on TAW recently, about how players react after having injury issues like what Sturridge went through. It's not necessarily about the fact that he can't do it, but more or less that if he did it, it may have consequences.

Nowadays, more often than not, he doesn't lead the line anymore, but you see him purposely drift back or out wide while opposing defences concentrate on the ball carrier. He then finds the spaces where he can most effectively operate. He's not like Origi, he doesn't rely on his pace to go behind, or his power to lean on defenders. So often, you just find him popping up out of nowhere, and he will score before he can effectively be closed down. His finishing, and his ability to find open spaces, is second to none in this league, and he's very much turning into a top poacher.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #213 on: August 5, 2016, 12:23:43 pm »
Really excited to see Sturridge leading the line with "zippy go lucky" Mane, "Don't blink Soldado" Bobby Firm and "Magic Mike" Phil causing a plethora of collective defender calamities.

My prediction? If he stays fit, 20 league goals.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #214 on: August 5, 2016, 12:35:29 pm »
Looking through all these formations and I have no idea how we are going to line up.  We have some great options now. 
Will Wijnaldum and Mane play every week?  Origi or Sturridge?   Nice problem for Klopp to have.

With no CL or Europe this season I don't see the team changing much unless we have injuries.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #215 on: August 5, 2016, 02:35:59 pm »
They talked about this on TAW recently, about how players react after having injury issues like what Sturridge went through. It's not necessarily about the fact that he can't do it, but more or less that if he did it, it may have consequences.

Nowadays, more often than not, he doesn't lead the line anymore, but you see him purposely drift back or out wide while opposing defences concentrate on the ball carrier. He then finds the spaces where he can most effectively operate. He's not like Origi, he doesn't rely on his pace to go behind, or his power to lean on defenders. So often, you just find him popping up out of nowhere, and he will score before he can effectively be closed down. His finishing, and his ability to find open spaces, is second to none in this league, and he's very much turning into a top poacher.

Agree with that, his goal against Wales comes to mind. You could see him dropping back to essentially make a play. Saw an opening and ran towards the goal. As soon as a defender marked him, he passed it to Walker (i believe), and made a run to an open space. Walker played the quick one two and passed it back to Sturridge. Sturridge received the ball inside the box with enough space to take a shot. That entire play was beautiful to watch. That kind of skill is world class in my opinion.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #216 on: August 5, 2016, 02:45:53 pm »
Looking through all these formations and I have no idea how we are going to line up.  We have some great options now. 
Will Wijnaldum and Mane play every week?  Origi or Sturridge?   Nice problem for Klopp to have.

With no CL or Europe this season I don't see the team changing much unless we have injuries.

Or play 12 and hope the officials don't notice?
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #217 on: August 5, 2016, 11:20:40 pm »
From what I've seen in pre-season I don't think he has his pace back and I don't think he'll ever get it back. He's still a really good player, and I think as a second choice striker in a top team he's more than worth the money. He will need to still up his all round game one or two notches if he's ever going to be a world class striker again now though.

There's such a big difference in what he offers physically compared to Origi that I think they'll end up getting a similar amount of game time, particularly if Origi builds on his second half of last season.

Second choice striker? Really? Are we that blind because the guy has had injury problems. Origi is looking like he could develop in to a great striker but Sturridge is already a top bracket striker and has been for some time.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #218 on: August 6, 2016, 04:16:41 pm »
Will miss the next two games with a little hip injury apparently

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #219 on: August 6, 2016, 04:17:24 pm »
Confirmed by the official LFC Twitter account. Ah well, it was only a matter of when really.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #220 on: August 6, 2016, 04:18:32 pm »
He'll most likely be fine in a few weeks, though, so I don't think we need to worry about this minor injury.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #221 on: August 6, 2016, 04:18:50 pm »
Confirmed by the official LFC Twitter account. Ah well, it was only a matter of when really.


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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #222 on: August 6, 2016, 04:19:37 pm »
Be fit for start of season?

He's expected to miss the Arsenal game according to Paul Joyce.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #223 on: August 6, 2016, 04:20:21 pm »
Why are people taking digs at him because he's got a slight knock. It happens. Origi missed a game this week due to a knock. Nobody said anything about that. Clyne missed a game due to a slight injury too earlier in pre season. It happens.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #224 on: August 6, 2016, 04:21:05 pm »
Why are people taking digs at him because he's got a slight knock. It happens. Origi missed a game this week due to a knock. Nobody said anything about that. Clyne missed a game due to a slight injury too earlier in pre season. It happens.

Will miss the Arsenal game as well.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #225 on: August 6, 2016, 04:22:01 pm »
It may be the same hip that was operated on before. I have hip issues myself, they just never go away. All the little tendons in there just create havoc once they go out of balance.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #226 on: August 6, 2016, 04:22:04 pm »
Havent seen anything to say he's missing Arsenal, just that it probably kills his chances of starting there as he's playing no part in the preparation games this weekend!

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #227 on: August 6, 2016, 04:22:09 pm »
Why are people taking digs at him because he's got a slight knock. It happens. Origi missed a game this week due to a knock. Nobody said anything about that. Clyne missed a game due to a slight injury too earlier in pre season. It happens.

Erm, who?

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #228 on: August 6, 2016, 04:23:12 pm »
Why are people taking digs at him because he's got a slight knock. It happens. Origi missed a game this week due to a knock. Nobody said anything about that. Clyne missed a game due to a slight injury too earlier in pre season. It happens.

Are your eyes okay???? Don't think anyone on here has 'taken a dig at him'.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #229 on: August 6, 2016, 04:24:10 pm »
Can people stop wetting themselves please? It says he's not playing as a precaution, the same way a few of our players haven't played as a precaution. I'm sure he'll be fine within a week.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #230 on: August 6, 2016, 04:24:49 pm »
Origi is starting against Arsenal anyway
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #231 on: August 6, 2016, 04:25:22 pm »
Will miss the next two games with a little hip injury apparently

Oh FFS. All that talk of him saying he wants to be 'World Class' this week was just far too premature and way of the mark. His body just fails him. He's lost the best part of two seasons now. It's unfortunate for him because he is a great talent, but we can't trust his body to stay injury free. You may say this is hyperbole, but how many times have we heard 'SLIGHT KNOCK' and he's out for a good amount of time.

What does a minor HIP INJURY mean anyways - is he feeling pain there? Didn't he have his hip operated on? I've never heard of a minor hip injury. And knowing what others have said about Daniel's psychology, if he is feeling pain there or worried he may agrivate it, then we certainly aren't going to see the best of him.

I'm relieved Klopp is going into the season with us not dependent on him.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #232 on: August 6, 2016, 04:25:51 pm »
Origi is starting against Arsenal anyway

I agree with you, I think Origi was giong to start anyway, however it would have been nice to have Sturridge on the bench.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #233 on: August 6, 2016, 04:26:26 pm »
Yeah, it's always worrying seeing him even getting a 'little injury' but let's wait & see. He's been injury free for long enough to not instantly give up hope at the first sign on an injury. Here's hoping.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #234 on: August 6, 2016, 04:26:28 pm »
Origi has to be our main striker this season. We cant rely on Sturridge. It pains me to say it too, because I love the lad and think he is one of the best strikers in the league.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #235 on: August 6, 2016, 04:28:23 pm »
Origi has to be our main striker this season. We cant rely on Sturridge.

Origi has hardly shown himself to be resistant to niggling injuries.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #236 on: August 6, 2016, 04:29:37 pm »
He's expected to miss the Arsenal game according to Paul Joyce.
Where does he say that?  It's not on his Twitter feed, where he just says he'll miss the friendlies but the injury isn't serious.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #237 on: August 6, 2016, 04:29:55 pm »
Origi is starting against Arsenal anyway

Most likely Firmino.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #238 on: August 6, 2016, 04:30:12 pm »
Erm, who?

Sorry I didnt mean on here. Take a look at the responses on social media. Every comment after the club tweeted out that he was injured was abuse for him.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #239 on: August 6, 2016, 04:30:20 pm »
Oh FFS. All that talk of him saying he wants to be 'World Class' this week was just far too premature and way of the mark. His body just fails him. He's lost the best part of two seasons now. It's unfortunate for him because he is a great talent, but we can't trust his body to stay injury free. You may say this is hyperbole, but how many times have we heard 'SLIGHT KNOCK' and he's out for a good amount of time.

What does a minor HIP INJURY mean anyways - is he feeling pain there? Didn't he have his hip operated on? I've never heard of a minor hip injury. And knowing what others have said about Daniel's psychology, if he is feeling pain there or worried he may agrivate it, then we certainly aren't going to see the best of him.

I'm relieved Klopp is going into the season with us not dependent on him.

Let's just see how it plays out before we lose the head, eh?