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Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« on: June 13, 2005, 10:16:35 am »
However realistic it may be, the start of every season brings the same dream for Liverpool fans: to win one of the 'big two' trophies. 2005 was the first time in 15 years that the dream of landing either the Premiership title or the European Cup  actually came true.

I am almost certain that we will see a reversal of Liverpool's fortunes next season: an improvement domestically, while failing to retain the European Cup. Perhaps that's totally obvious: it is hard to believe Liverpool could again be as bad in the league, or as successful in Europe. But there are a fair few reasons to believe the improvement in the Premiership will be significant.


1. In the second half of the season, Liverpool will more than likely have just the league to concentrate on

If winning the Champions League once is unbelievable, retaining it would be beyond comprehension. Let's face it, it's just not going to happen, right? Chances are that this time we'll be a more rounded team, but come unstuck either unluckily, or against a superior team who, for once, we cannot beat. Certainly we can't use the underdog status a second year running. We are up there to be beaten, and six qualifying games provide extra banana skins.

I see the quarter-finals as our most realistic final destination, and I'd be more than happy with that. As a result of an earlier elimination, there will be more chance to 'concentrate on the league'. The World Club Championship won't help the fixture list, but at least it's out of the way before Christmas.


2. Everton will finish lower in the table

Just as I don't expect Liverpool to repeat the Champions League success, I fail to see how Everton can have anywhere near as good a season in the league next year. Last season, with Everton having their best season for donkey's years, the Blues' long-held position above the stuttering Reds made Benítez' task harder. Any other side looking down from 4th place would have been less of an 'issue'. Getting 4th place became a grudge match, and Liverpool had the pressing issue of major games against Juventus and Chelsea to contend with.

There is more pressure and expectation on Everton than 12 months ago. They now have Europe to sap their energy. However, if they do repeat their success, I will take them a lot more seriously as an up-and-coming side, and not a one season wonder.

Uefa, in relenting to allow Liverpool into the Champions League, will now set in stone the regulation that 4th place is subject to the winners finishing outside the top four, in which case the reigning champions clearly deserve inclusion. All the hoopla surrounding the whole issue never helped Liverpool's cause either: Everton were in the box seat when the FA made its illogical conclusion in April.


3. The refereeing can't be as bad again, surely?

I know this is always seen as a tame argument. But if any team, big or small, doesn't get the decisions it has 'earned', then it can struggle. When it has a new manager, and new players, it's so crucial to get off to a good start.

The second half of the season was pretty non-eventful in terms of bad refereeing either for or against Liverpool in the Premiership. Chelsea on New Year's Day, and the two penalties the Reds were never awarded, was the turning point. There were one or two debatable decisions after that game, but nothing major. The usual 'par for the course' stuff.

But a collection of outrageously poor decisions in the first half of the season stopped Liverpool getting a better foothold in the league table. A good start to the season sets the tone, and it was notable that key decisions went against the Reds in the first two away games: Steven Gerrard clearly fouled in the box at White Hart Lane on the opening day, in a game that was eventually drawn; and a great Luis Garcia goal wrongly chalked off at the Reebok –– a defeat that would have become a draw. That was four points-worth of poor decisions in the first weeks of the season alone.

Had those decisions been correctly awarded in the Reds' favour, there is every chance the Reds would have built some momentum 'on the road'. Instead, Liverpool couldn't buy a win away from Anfield, and the league campaign never really got out of second gear.


4. Rafa now knows the Premiership better, and knows individual teams and players better.

Much of Rafa's success in Spain was down to analysing the opposition, with the help of Pako Ayestaran, to the nth degree. The pair were famed for pinpointing the weaknesses in every team, and utilising different tactics, players and styles of play to exploit them.

This time around, not only will Rafa and Pako better understand the demands of English football, they will know how all the other teams like to set out their stall, and what players are dangerous (as well as those whose weaknesses can be taken advantage of). It stands to reason that our management will be better equipped this time around.

Liverpool could have gone for an English manager in 2004 who might, given that he will have had a deep knowledge of the league, managed to get an extra ten points in the league last season, but who would have had no experience in Europe. And those extra ten points might have proved the best any English manager could manage –– as good as it gets; Benítez has league titles under his belt. He has shown he can win a major league, not once but twice.

Great managers tend to improve their side's results year-by-year, certainly for the first three or four years. So next season should see a marked domestic improvement.


5. Last season's new signings will be more used to the Premiership

For a man who was too lightweight for the Premiership, eight league goals from open play (and two legitimate ones at Bolton and Boro wrongly chalked off) wasn't a bad return for Luis Garcia. Of these ten 'goals', five were away –– where he was supposed to be anonymous. But it's clear he still has room for improvement, and if he is surrounded by better players than last season he will find more freedom and space.

Although Xabi Alonso adjusted particularly well, at times the games seemed a little too frantic for him –– especially when Gerrard wasn't in the team to distract the opposition. Xabi is only just 23, so the potential is massive –– he will get better as a player, and better as a Premiership footballer.

The main benefactors should be Fernando Morientes and Djibril Cissé, neither of whom started even one-third of last season's league matches: Cissé starting only ten league games, Morientes 12. They've had a good taste of the Premiership, and next season should see them reap the rewards.

Cissé appeared to be coming to terms with the nature of the pace of the game here in the final home match against Aston Villa –– although his statement that he 'didn't want the season to end' seems to have been taken rather too literally by Uefa. He will be extremely hungry and determined to make up for lost time, starting early next month.


6. New signings

Not all of Rafa's summer signings will settle quickly and effectively, but the chances are that at least half will. If one of those signings is Jose Reina, the Villareal 'keeper, then the player has to settle almost immediately –– one area of the team where you can't afford an extended period of acclimatisation is between the sticks. If you list the areas where the squad is a little lacking, there could be a fair few additions: two strikers, two midfielders, two defenders and a goalkeeper.

Of those leaving, none will be too sorely missed –– unlike Owen, who left last summer. (Unless, of course, Gerrard does end up packing his bags.)

Players like Biscan and Smicer played their best games for the club in Europe; their league form was never consistent enough, and of course Baros never quite hit the heights he promised. That's why even half-decent Premiership players (if they are effective) might help bolster the squad with regards to the domestic programme, although of course we want the best players possible –– or rather, the best blend possible.


7. The 'big guns' will be fit

Or at least we hope they will.

An injury-free season from Steven Gerrard, Xabi Alonso and Djibril Cissé will be like three new top-class signings. Add all the other players who missed too much football last year (Hamann, Kewell, Kirkland, Sinama-Pongolle, Nunez, Mellor), and you have an entire team of players unavailable to Rafa for much of last season.


8. Emerging talent

There's not too much to go overboard about –– no outrageously talented youngsters on the horizon, destined for world superstardom –– but in John Welsh, Darren Potter, David Raven, Zak Whitbread, Carl Medjani, Anthony Le Tallec and Sinama-Pongolle, the club has a very fine collection of 20/21 year-olds, all of whom picked up valuable first team experience last season. That includes Medjani at L'Orient –– the youngster just captained France to the U20 Toulon championship, in case anyone thinks he's average because he hasn't yet broken into the Liverpool first team.

Expect Rafa to sign some youngsters for the future, but one or two might be able to add something to the team sooner rather than later.
 
Even Alou Diarra –– now a fully fledged French international –– might return, especially now Biscan has been released. He will report for pre-season training like all other Reds, unless he is loaned out once again, or sold.


9. Liverpool will be firmly into the groove by the time the Premiership kicks in

Pre-season matches are handy, but nothing beats competitive games. Not only did Liverpool's season end 10 days after the Premiership concluded, but the club's season will start a whole month before the league resumes. That's nearly six weeks of added fitness. The Reds will now be able to enjoy a nice couple of weeks' holiday, but won't have time to lose too much conditioning.

The worry is that the team will 'hit the wall' in the new year. But it's always better to have points in the bag, as we saw with Everton this season. A good start to the season breeds confidence, and suddenly you find yourselves on a 'run'. That has to be the hope.

A good start to the league campaign will reinforce the idea that Liverpool are actually now a very special side under Benítez. Even if that's still not 100% true, and the side remains essentially one in transition, a good start will give the impression of an unstoppable side.


10. What better place to end than this: Liverpool FC, Champions of Europe

The confidence of being able to say that that gives the players will be significant. Winning one of the 'big two' tells the players of the levels they can achieve. Once you've climbed Everest you can do so again. While the success was in Europe, the confidence will be 'transferable'. The cup success of 2001 enabled the club to do better in the Premiership in 2002, finishing 2nd with 80 points.

2001/02 did not follow a transitional season. But unlike then, this time Liverpool achieved something where they could say they were 'the best'. The Uefa Cup is for those deemed inferior; the Champions League is for the best teams only. According to the name engraved on this season's cup, Liverpool are the 'best of the best'.

It wasn't just winning the Champions League, it was the manner in which it was achieved. Nothing will ever feel like a 'lost cause' again. If you can beat some great teams on the way to the final, and then come back from 3-0 down at half-time to AC Milan in the biggest club game on the planet, you can come back against anyone. It doesn't mean that you will, of course: but the players now know that anything is possible.

That is a powerful psychological boost in football that can be worth a lot of points over the course of a season. Half of the battle takes place in the players' minds, and their minds should now be filled with the idea of possibilities.

© Paul Tomkins 2005


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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2005, 10:25:06 am »
good read that Paul, agree with everything you were saying and I think we will be a lot better off this season- but if Chelsea have a season like last year i dont think anyone will catch them. Although i think they will lose more games this time round.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2005, 10:33:44 am »

If winning the Champions League once is unbelievable, retaining it would be beyond comprehension. Let's face it, it's just not going to happen, right?



WRONG - we done it in 77 and 78 so why cant we do it again?

Nobody expected us to win it this season but we did.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2005, 10:38:15 am »
I'd like to add an eleventh (or ten and a half'th if you like) reason. As we are European champions, especially after that final, I think it's more than likely we'll have even more exposure on TV on the likes of Sky and such. This exposure will benefit us (provided we play well ;)) in both TV money to add to the coffers and more awareness around Europe and around the world. Players and fans are more likely to be interested by Liverpool, which could mean an interesting January ;D
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2005, 10:45:01 am »
I agree almost everything above but I don't agree we can't win CL back to back. We can do it with a weak team(no insults) why can't we do it with a better team? Nando will be very hungry as well and he will be the striker to spearhead our attack in CL. *ouch

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2005, 10:45:05 am »
Also, Rafa Benitez has only ever lost one knock out match in European competition in the last two seasons.

Ironically, that was in Turkey.
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2005, 10:57:49 am »
1. In the second half of the season, Liverpool will more than likely have just the league to concentrate on.I hope we won't have, and I think it is a little defeatist. The effects of the the extra games before Christmas will certainly ring their toll.
2. Everton will finish lower in the table Being knocked out before the group stage of the CL, or having one eye on it if they do qualify will have a dextramental effect. Let's, though give them a little credit. A few new signings will give them a new depth.
3. The refereeing can't be as bad again, surely? Matter of opinion. I think that we received a few helpers as well.
4. Rafa now knows the Premiership better, and knows individual teams and players better. Let's hope so, but we didn't see an improvement in the league during its final months.
5. Last season's new signings will be more used to the PremiershipI, too, hope they perform.
6. New signingsWon't every team be making new signings? I have faith in Rafa to bring in the correct people, though.
7. The 'big guns' will be fitAnd without breakages.
8. Emerging talentHmmm
9. Liverpool will be firmly into the groove by the time the Premiership kicks inLet's hope that it won't, come November begin to tire us out
10. What better place to end than this: Liverpool FC, Champions of Europe it certainly gave Man U a boost, they won the next two league titles, but it was the last cup they won before the FA cup last year.

There are many reasons for optimism, but they will all count for squat if we fail to win games. I personally think that new signings and a better understanding of the team/premier league, will be the most vital.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2005, 11:16:14 am »
Great as usual Paul.

I think possibly the most significant aspect to the upcoming season is going to be Rafa's experience from last season and him now being more adjusted to the premiership. He knows what works and what doesn't, he knows that tactics will depend on neutralising the more physical and direct aspect of teams outside the top 6 or so.

I can see what small pre-season traing we get to be be more like military planning than 20 laps of the pitch and some push-ups.

Heck, this time every year I'm filled with a warm optimism for "turning the corner" and every year I have what seem like justifiable reasons to do so. I know we have some dead wood in the team that needs clearing out, but there's a heart to the team that can only be stronger next year and as long as they listen to Rafa's instructions then they should put us much closer to the top three.

Hopefully Europe will have been an eye opener for the players to show what we can achieve and how in spells of brilliance, if we can capitalise on possession and fast play we can finish any team off in the premiership. 3 goals in 6 minutes is outstanding against any team, let alone AC Milan. I just hope that this experience helps to not only curb the nerves that seem to creep in against lesser opponents, but to also spur us on when we sometimes go behind in a game. Rather than heads dropping the second half against AC Milan can be used as a benchmark. If 20 minutes or so of great football can do that to the favorites for the CL then what are they going to do to the likes of Birmingham or even Arsenal and Chelsea?

I know we've said that we want 11 Carra's and that isn't too far from the mark. It's not just his heart, committment and talent that have shone this year but his 100% trust and belief in the Manager. I think it's obvious that Carra to some extent idolises Rafa's approach to football and management, hopefully his spirit and trust can rub off on everyone. Again this was probably highlighted most in the controversial "Zonal Marking" that Hyypia clearly didn't like and to some extent not only made his dislike public, but probably also cost us by not putting everything into the system. I'm sure at first Carra thought "WTF?" when first presented with the system, but kept any doubts to himself and instead learned hwo to make it work and trusted his manager.

And I think if you look at some of the things we'ver dearly suffered from last season outside of injuries etc it's that some key players haven't trusted the better judgement of Rafa and have made their objections public, which can only sour team spirit. those players which have stood out, seem to have been converts to the Rafa way. Maybe the sheer genius of his tactics throughout Europe will be enough to convice all players that the fellow really does know what he's talking about.
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2005, 11:16:39 am »
Some very good points there Paul. This will be a season of stabilising the ship more than anything else. If we can finish in the top 3 in the PL and have an established team, it will be a 'successful' season. The worse thing to happen is to fail to get a settled team.

Rafa has got his work cut out after the exploits of the CL, and it will be hard to come out tops in any competetion this season. I think he'll try to build a solid team that can compete well on all fronts with an eye for a sustained presence in the long term future.
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2005, 11:25:51 am »
Hve a good feeling about Kewell for next season

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2005, 11:32:09 am »
nice one paul!

i actually think that the comebacks are due to that fulham game... rafa told the players they could score 3 against olympiacos- because they scored 4 against fulham!

now that we can see we came back from 3 down against one of the best in the world- it just makes your wonder just how confident the players are.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2005, 11:36:49 am »
Fantastic, but having nothing to concentrate on in second half of season?

Worthy Cup goes on till February
FA cup doesnt even start until January
Champions league/Uefa Cup go on to May

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2005, 11:37:44 am »
Great read and nice use of "possibilities". It really is a fantastic word!!

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2005, 11:44:51 am »
Hve a good feeling about Kewell for next season

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2005, 11:46:30 am »
Good post Paul, agree with most of what you say and the rest I hope is true.

It will be interesting to see how quickly we bring the new players in now as time is ticking with our new extended season, I can see wome names appearing this week and the next.

I would love to see us reach the QF's of CL next season and would be more than happy with this if it is with a marked improvement in the PL.

Everton I think will tire next season so we won't have them to worry about, Bolton and Boro I think will continue to grow in confidence and we will see an interesting battle for the places from 4th-7th that hopefully we won't be part of.

As you also said, what we need to see is the team settling, which is something that didn't really happen in 2002.

I think we will see Man Utd looking a little unsettled next season and Arsenal must have some changes happening. Lets just hope that Chelsea don't run away with it.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2005, 11:55:52 am »
Hve a good feeling about Kewell for next season

i actually think that if he can get a good pre-season under his belt he can be a real asset.

Too many people have short memories, when he 1st joined he was immense, the player of the year for the 1st half of the year. He chipped in with a few goals, and caused mayhem, just been unlucky with injuries. Plus he still got plenty of years left- IF the injuries stay away.
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2005, 12:27:28 pm »
There are many reasons for optimism, but they will all count for squat if we fail to win games.


Not being funny, but of course!


As for next season's Champions League, I just don't see us repeating it - but I didn't see us winning it this year until we beat Bayer Leverkusen.

But how many teams have successfully defended the Champions League - since the format moved to more games?


i actually think that if he can get a good pre-season under his belt he can be a real asset.


Well, that was always my belief. But it depends how much training he can do after his op. The good thing is that he'd gotten fit before the final, so all that work at the Spanish training camp will stand him in good stead.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2005, 12:38:46 pm »
Great stuff...but i cant see why we cant repeat the UCL triumph again next season even if we are labelled as favourites.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2005, 12:40:14 pm »
Hve a good feeling about Kewell for next season

Me too mate, I honestly think he's going to set the prem on fire next season! 

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2005, 12:52:46 pm »
The one thing I hope everybody retains throughout next season, despite the belief that Benitez has given us all, and surely the players, is a sense of realism

Take the fantastic CL run last season out of the equation and what do you have?  A poor league season from a team in transition with a cup final as some reward.

We won't go from 5th to 1st in one season although we must surely do better, but if we start off slowly, or have a run of 6 games without winning, it's important that people retain the sense of realism and see where we are in the grand scheme of things, and that although we are the best team in Europe (God, that still sounds so good), it does not mean we will automatically be the best team in England, or even in the top 3.

Onwards and upwards though and we'll get there one day, and if we keep having good cup successes on our way then we're in for some great times
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2005, 01:02:19 pm »
Hve a good feeling about Kewell for next season

Why's that, is he transfer listed? :D
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2005, 01:38:53 pm »
My big wish is that we're not "fighting for 4th" again in Feb/March.  I'm sick of that.  Let's be up there with no doubt about finishing the CL places and try to just play football and get as close to the champions as possible.  That's my minimum expectation/hope for this season. 

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2005, 01:47:18 pm »
Pretty good analysis, but I'm going to bold-and-stupid and say it now -- we're going to win the league next season, and we're going to win it in style, I can feel it in me bones. Chelsea suffered a massive blow to their confidence right at the end of the season and it will always be in their minds. Man USA and Arsenal need a comprehensive rebuild, they are looking jaded (that FA cup final was dire). Everton will finish bottom half, Bolton will again be challenging for an ECL place but will fall some way short. Best newcomer, West Ham.
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2005, 01:52:37 pm »
The one thing I hope everybody retains throughout next season, despite the belief that Benitez has given us all, and surely the players, is a sense of realism

Take the fantastic CL run last season out of the equation and what do you have?  A poor league season from a team in transition with a cup final as some reward.

We won't go from 5th to 1st in one season although we must surely do better, but if we start off slowly, or have a run of 6 games without winning, it's important that people retain the sense of realism and see where we are in the grand scheme of things, and that although we are the best team in Europe (God, that still sounds so good), it does not mean we will automatically be the best team in England, or even in the top 3.

Onwards and upwards though and we'll get there one day, and if we keep having good cup successes on our way then we're in for some great times

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2005, 03:48:51 pm »
Pretty good analysis, but I'm going to bold-and-stupid and say it now -- we're going to win the league next season, and we're going to win it in style, I can feel it in me bones.


I hope your bones are accurate, but that does sound a little optimistic! It's not totally beyond our capabilities, if everything clicks into place, but we will still be 4th favourites.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2005, 03:59:28 pm »
Gerrard (now that he can concentrate on his football), Morientes (now that he can play 2 games in a row and have a pre-season), Cisse and hopefully Kewell will be like new signings along with any new signings we do actually make. I think we'll finish 4th again but hopefully we'll see a lot of progress in the league. Anything else will be a bonus imo.
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2005, 04:02:03 pm »
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Cissé appeared to be coming to terms with the nature of the pace of the game here in the final home match against Aston Villa –– although his statement that he 'didn't want the season to end' seems to have been taken rather too literally by Uefa. He will be extremely hungry and determined to make up for lost time, starting early next month.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2005, 04:30:24 pm »
Gerrard (now that he can concentrate on his football),



Meant to include that one. That will be a big help. I don't think there has ever been so much transfer speculation surrounding one player during the course of a season than the 'Gerrard to Chelsea' saga...

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2005, 04:56:50 pm »
Suddenly I feel like I can be the next prime minister! ;D

Good read!
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*meanwhile during the cycle, we'll be around mid-table challenging for 4th spot.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2005, 05:18:46 pm »
Like the last year the player switching system will be on and with the "mature in EPL" it could be a key to finish higher.
But i still dream Harry to be MUCH better.
As for transfers I will miss Igor  :-\

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2005, 06:46:43 pm »
although his statement that he 'didn't want the season to end' seems to have been taken rather too literally by Uefa. He will be extremely hungry and determined to make up for lost time, starting early next month.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2005, 09:03:34 pm »
Excellent piece Paul. I hope the book is as good! :)
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2005, 09:43:28 pm »
Excellent piece Paul. I hope the book is as good! :)


It's better!

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2005, 10:49:23 pm »
One thing that will count in our favour next season is that teams will be scared to be leading us in a game with Milan in the back of their minds. That is one of the qualities that Ferguson's Man U had in their pomp; the ability to make everyone believe that they would always score. This attitude will be a big help for us next year.
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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2005, 11:21:49 pm »
Great post Paul,  I honestly believe we are a lot better than our 5TH in the prem suggested. I believe all the Gerrard stay or go talk throughout the season had a huge affect on Liverpool as a team, you could tell after a while by players comments that they were getting pissed off with the one man team theme. I think it is essential that Gerrard makes a choice one way or the other, It seems he has right now but still has not convincingly committed verbally other than saying 'IT is looking Good' etc.
Couple that along with the injuries from last season and i am confident that if we can sort these two problems out they will be worth 20 points at least and have us in contention.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2005, 12:27:35 am »
11. didi staying
would like javier bardem to do the coin tosses at anfield

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2005, 01:08:36 am »
12. Kewell's operation.

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2005, 01:51:38 am »
Am still waiting patiently for the arrival of your book, Paul.

1. I think we will go as far as the semis. You are right to say that no team has defended the crowning glory of European club football in the modern day format but if Rafa juggles the team well, we will have enough gas till the semis.

2. We shouldn't underestimate our Mersey neighbours but I do think they will struggle this season to maintain the achievements of last season. They will have EXPECTATIONS to contend with and not many teams have dealt with it well.

3. Refereeing should be kept out of the season's performance equation. I've always believed that we have to take the good with the bad and that's part of football.

4. Can't agree more. It's an understatement to call Rafa a genius. I am still pinching myself over the fact we have him and not other teams around the world. I think he will get better at his job and let's hope the team can carry out his orders on the field.

5. My personal feeling is that our forward line will 'blossom' this coming season. Cisse can't wait for the season to start, Mori will get fitter, Harry will hopefully shake off the niggling injuries, Pongolle will finally show his potential and Garcia will score more incredible goals. No one has mentioned Nunez? Let's hope he improves and shuts up the legions of detractors (including me) and become a reliable squad player.

6. I honestly believe we have a surplus of keepers. We have Kirkland (although going on loan), Dudek, Carson and maybe Reina. Carson is a long term project and the purchase of Reina would shoot Dudek's confidence to tatters, unless it creates a competitive environment and the 2 will battle it out for the number 1 spot. A little risky, in my opinion.
Would love to have Crouch in the team. He will give us another dimension in attack and his ability to hold the ball in open play will benefit players like Garcia and Riise. The only question is: Will he be happy playing 3rd fiddle to Cisse and Mori? This is assuming that Baros leaves, which I think is the right time. His stocks are at an all-time high.

7.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed especially when we have to play so many games. Good call to keep Hamaan as we need him as a backup to Gerrard and Alonso.

8. With the exception of LeTallec and Pongolle, I can't say that the emerging talents are of someone like Gerrard's or Carra's ilk. However, I hope with our recent Euro success, we can attract the cream of the crop of young talents to Anfield.

9. Pace yourselves, guys!

10. Walk on, walk on...knowing we are the Champions of Europe

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2005, 08:38:00 am »
Am still waiting patiently for the arrival of your book, Paul.


Posting them out next Monday/Tuesday, all being well  :wave

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Re: Ten reasons for league optimism for Liverpool in 2005/06
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2005, 01:35:13 pm »

Posting them out next Monday/Tuesday, all being well  :wave

It'll probably reach Melbourne, Australia in 6 months, assuming Titanic MkII doesn't hit an iceberg
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