Topic: Raheem Shaquille Sterling

[88_RED]

He was in court yesterday accused of assaulting his ex girlfriend. That's not great preparation for a game the next day.

The fact that the case got dropped against him might just count for something eh..

[jooneyisdagod]

Hugely overrated by sections of our fanbase. Yes, I'm aware he is only 18.

[Pistolero]

at what point did 'haters' become a collective noun?...

[Circa1892]

I think he'll be great don't get me wrong, but I never get the sense he's going to make anything happen when he comes on. Considering the amount he's played his goals/assists ratio is woeful.

Would've liked him to go on loan to get a full season this year (would've made a natural replacement for Zaha at Palace for example)

[Pinky_Bieber]

he's no Ibe

[Agger]

I think he'll be great don't get me wrong, but I never get the sense he's going to make anything happen when he comes on. Considering the amount he's played his goals/assists ratio is woeful.

Would've liked him to go on loan to get a full season this year (would've made a natural replacement for Zaha at Palace for example)

I feel the same. Sighed when I saw Stering was about to come on. Has rarely produced anything. He's not, at the moment, that kind of player you bring on to try and turn things around.

He did OK tonight, though.

[Harris96]

He normally does better from the start as it seems to take him 5-10 minutes to get into matches on most occasions. it doesn't help bringing him on against teams with 10 minutes to go, when they're sitting deep as it completely negates his pace, the fact that we don't flood the box either makes him less useful as well.
I'd personally wouldn't mind him starting next match, who for though is the question.

[RedMan89]

loved the way he dribbled through the midfield. Hes definitely got fire in his belly

[Tommy Torres]

Hugely overrated by sections of our fanbase. Yes, I'm aware he is only 18.

I agree with you. I try but I just don't see it in him, people get excited because he is a young kid coming in and doing 'ok'. But is ok good enough? I remember Fowler, Macca and that judas c*nt coming in at similarly young ages and consistently delivering because they were that good. I am yet to see it with Sterling and think if he his only going to get a few minutes here and there, as he has so far this season, perhaps he should have gone on loan.

[Harris96]

I agree with you. I try but I just don't see it in him, people get excited because he is a young kid coming in and doing 'ok'. But is ok good enough? I remember Fowler, Macca and that judas c*nt coming in at similarly young ages and consistently delivering because they were that good. I am yet to see it with Sterling and think if he his only going to get a few minutes here and there, as he has so far this season, perhaps he should have gone on loan.

You're comparing him to three of our best players, if he becomes half the player of any of them he'd still be a great player to have. He's shown potential, especially last season that he can be a very good player, and he's not played nearly enough for someone to judge him this season, half of his appearances have been off the bench for 20 minutes.

[killer-heels]

Sterling is a massive talent but he needs to be a bit less fearful like he was last season. Seems to want to just carry and pass rather than take his man on.

[Cpt_Reina]

He needs protecting more is what he needs.

Less of the "we're in the shit here Raheem, go on and try and turn the game around please" and more of the "we're 2 goals to the good here Raheem, go out and express yourself seeing as you're only 18".

Crazy that he's having to be *that* player for us. And entirely avoidable if you dont send Borini out on a pointless loan or actually sign someone for the forward line, but I digress.

[Illmatic]

Sterling is a massive talent but he needs to be a bit less fearful like he was last season. Seems to want to just carry and pass rather than take his man on.

He's just a promising young player learning his trade; I think people expect too much of him, personally I think he could do with being loaned out. I don't think he is say at the level of say Fowler or Owen when they were coming through at around his age. Yet many seem to think he's going to be the next big thing when it is just far to early to say.

Take that chance he had at the end of the match versus Southampton where he mis controlled the ball; a player at 18 who wants to be a regular starter for a team chasing the top four needs to do better in those situations. 

[vagildi]

He should tighten up his wing-play. Bren should tell him to keep chalk dust on his feet.

[Pistolero]

Not ready...and to be honest may never be...at least not at a club the size of LFC.....sincerely hope I'm wrong but I just don't see the 'massive talent' that some speak of........needs to be loaned out to learn his trade and earn his place

[Juan Loco]

*head explodes*

[Tommy Torres]

You're comparing him to three of our best players, if he becomes half the player of any of them he'd still be a great player to have. He's shown potential, especially last season that he can be a very good player, and he's not played nearly enough for someone to judge him this season, half of his appearances have been off the bench for 20 minutes.

Yeah I am but they were players that displayed so much talent even from their first couple of games you could see they we're going to be special, with Sterling I have yet to see that. To be honest I just don't see him getting that much game time this season unless we have a couple of long term injuries. Don't get me wrong in a couple go years I think he will show to be a good player, I just haven't seen anything yet that makes me think he is going to be a great player.

[Harris96]

Yeah I am but they were players that displayed so much talent even from their first couple of games you could see they we're going to be special, with Sterling I have yet to see that. To be honest I just don't see him getting that much game time this season unless we have a couple of long term injuries. Don't get me wrong in a couple go years I think he will show to be a good player, I just haven't seen anything yet that makes me think he is going to be a great player.

Thought he was class in his first few games to be honest, city he was great in and looked like he'd played for years. I agree in that i don't think that he'll get much time, but hopefully we'll turn the results around and he can come on for longer periods at a time which would be more beneficial.

I think he's shown at times that he can be a great player, however he perhaps has to start showing them on a more consistent basis, like the ones you listed. However it's difficult to do when you're coming on for 10 minutes against teams sitting back, or when we're pegged back. I know it's not the same but i if you saw his last performance for the under 21's in the second half i think he showed his true potential, it was against a sunderland side that was top of the league, and he literally just ripped them to shreds, playing as a right back, when i see moments like that i believe he'll be a great player.

I'm just against people seemingly making judgements saying oh he's not good enough or he shouldnt be playing, after him coming on for like 5/10 minutes at the end of a match, if he was playing regular matches and being wank, then i'd say fair enough but he's not 

[DefJack]

Keeps getting 5 minutes at the end, with people expecting miracles from him, did no worse than Vic Mo.

Oh and btw he's 18 years old, he was on another level for the 21's the other day, but without gametime he can never progress.

Just think, 5 YEARS from now, he'll be the same age as Hendo.

[JackWard33]

He needs protecting more is what he needs.

Less of the "we're in the shit here Raheem, go on and try and turn the game around please" and more of the "we're 2 goals to the good here Raheem, go out and express yourself seeing as you're only 18".

Crazy that he's having to be *that* player for us. And entirely avoidable if you dont send Borini out on a pointless loan or actually sign someone for the forward line, but I digress.

Completely true - it's frightening how short or options we are. No clue why we let Borini or sold Downing given the lack of attacking players coming in

Sterling is 18 and should still be being nurtured in the reserves and with the odd first team appearance (like Notts County at home) - but instead he's our 'game changer off the bench'

[macca888]

Keeps getting 5 minutes at the end, with people expecting miracles from him, did no worse than Vic Mo.

Oh and btw he's 18 years old, he was on another level for the 21's the other day, but without gametime he can never progress.

Just think, 5 YEARS from now, he'll be the same age as Hendo.

No he won't cos Hendo will be 28 then you daft twat 

[Aristotle]

He needs protecting more is what he needs.

Less of the "we're in the shit here Raheem, go on and try and turn the game around please" and more of the "we're 2 goals to the good here Raheem, go out and express yourself seeing as you're only 18".

Crazy that he's having to be *that* player for us. And entirely avoidable if you dont send Borini out on a pointless loan or actually sign someone for the forward line, but I digress.

Said exactly the same after the Soton game.

Sterling, as I mentioned on twitter, is struggling in much the same way he did last season. He has all the abilities to become a wonderful player. But when you've got a teenager, suffering through the inconsistency and mishaps that come with playing regularly as a young player.

I'm getting rather worried about this trend actually. We're relying on Sterling far too much when drawing or losing. A quick search through his substitute appearances last season reveals that Sterling came on 14 times as a substitute. In only 6 of those were we winning; Young Boys (where Sterling was waiting on the sidelines when Shelvey got us up by 1), Udinese, Young Boys (where we conceded near the end), Fulham (up by 3), Norwich (up by 4) and Villa (where Gerrard's pen won it).
This is a young player, in his teens and he's only been able to come into 3 winning league games. Like today with that chance he missed. If he had come on in a position where Rodgers could've just put an arm on his shoulder and said "no worries, son, there'll be other games".

It's impossible to get young players to gain faith in themselves and learn to play for the love of the game and the cheers of the crowd when all the experience is a depressed mood and hopelessness.

[Juan Loco]

The thing is, if we looked at winning the game over 90 minutes, instead of already being ahead by the time a substitution is made, there's plenty to say that you start Raheem Sterling (rather than expect him to be the catalyst for dramatic change) and you bring Victor Moses on against tired legs because he's a more developed player who should be able to deal with and deliver on that expectancy. Not every game, but often enough that Sterling's only experience isn't just as some boy wonder substitute that expect a player to both learn and change the game single handed with every second he spends on the pitch.

[bas5times]

Ah people losing faith because he isn't beating 10 players and scoring when coming off the bench. I thought he did ok when he came on, had one or two good moments. By 21 this player will be very good.

[Johnny B. Goode]

Oh, geez. Which one of our players would have actually impressed judging by this season alone? Sturridge, Toure and Mignolet. That's it. Sterling hasn't been different from everyone else (i.e still finding his feet). Plus, you know, 18 is freakishingly young. We already saw that he has it in him to be a great player, so let's give time some time.

[farawayred]

No he won't cos Hendo will be 28 then you daft twat 

What if we kill Hendo?

[andymanlfc]

Some of the comments I saw about Raheem last night on twitter were laughable and disgusting, what the hell did he do wrong last night? Was on the pitch for about 10 minutes and I think personally got himself into the game quite comfortably. Won us a free-kick after taking on 3/4 United players, tackled Rooney in the corner to stop him wasting time also won us a corner late on. Can't really expect him to come on a be Messi.

[SMASHerano]

What's wrong with his first touch?

[SpartanTree. No deccies or lights.]

What's wrong with his first touch?

Never mind that - what was that throw all about ?   

[Cpt_Reina]

He was good when he came on, helped us move up the pitch on more than one occasion.

Done well.

[gregorio]

What's wrong with his first touch?

& a foul throw, unforgivable

Still, WE WON

[The G in Gerrard]

What's wrong with his first touch?

We win and that's what you think about? He did decent enough when on pitch + defensively.

[DyingAtheist]

He was good when he came on, helped us move up the pitch on more than one occasion.

Done well.

He wasn't, he just wasn't. He was a clear downgrade on Moses when he came on, unfortunately.
Like the lad, do think he'll do well here, but he's not somebody I want us bringing off the bench quite yet.

[peachybum]

I still think Raheem is a better option at wing back than Henderson. I think he did well in his cameo and could do more if he started.

[Juan Loco]

*Checks in*

Nope.

Nobody knows what they want.

[Djimi Smicer34]

Thought he did well when he came on today, he looked a bit more tactically disciplined than he has done when he's played in our other league games.   With Lucas suspended next week perhaps we'll see him start at RWB with Henderson moved into the middle. 

[Pinky_Bieber]

he's afraid a bit...thats probably because he have quite interesting life off the pitch

[markedasred]

May need to watch again to see by how much but looked to me like he tracked back well and joined in the defending again like he did with the U21s a few weeks back. A good substitution for me.

[Cpt_Reina]

May need to watch again to see by how much but looked to me like he tracked back well and joined in the defending again like he did with the U21s a few weeks back. A good substitution for me.

It was a perfectly good sub.

Did his defensive work, broke with the ball well, moved us up the pitch.

But then he did a foul throw. So e iz obs shit innit.

[Juan Loco]

It was a good sub just like Andre Wisdom against United was a good sub. Every time he got the ball it sucked the tempo out of their game and usually ended up with him winning a freekick.

Yeah, I know he messed up a touch on the edge of their area. Arsed. In the context of the game it wasn't important. Some of the other stuff he did was.