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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #160 on: May 11, 2007, 09:24:30 pm »
keep seeing them myself, with a liverbird, european cup and athens 2007 on

not sure where to get them though
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #161 on: May 12, 2007, 01:30:27 pm »
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #162 on: May 12, 2007, 02:31:04 pm »
Almost there...



f****ng boss that mate, still not sure how to increase size of liverbird, euro cup  from A4

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #163 on: May 12, 2007, 02:36:10 pm »
f****ng boss that mate, still not sure how to increase size of liverbird, euro cup  from A4

You just need to print it out on A4 and then blow it up on a photocopier.
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #164 on: May 12, 2007, 03:48:37 pm »
You just need to print it out on A4 and then blow it up on a photocopier.

can you use any photo copier? like the one at the local post office? or do you need a specialist one? also, can you enlarge to above A3 sized?

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #165 on: May 12, 2007, 04:09:05 pm »
can you use any photo copier? like the one at the local post office? or do you need a specialist one? also, can you enlarge to above A3 sized?

Depends on what size paper the photocopier can print onto.

You can do it in sections though, I've done that with some artwork, takes a bit of patience and lots of goes ;D but you'll get it all on there eventually, doing it in sections you can go up as big as you want.

Remember paper sizes are all the same aspect ratio, A4 doubles to A3, A3 doubles to A2, A2 doubles to A1 etc, so in an A1 sheet, you'll have 8 A4 sections, work out the percentage of the blow up you want to do (A3 would be 200% of A4, A2 400% etc), then just shuffle the paper round in the photocopier to get the right bit and you're away.

Actually, thinking about it, Hobbs in town does up to A1 photocopies cheap, save hassle and if it's nice clean artwork they'll come out really nice.

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #166 on: May 12, 2007, 04:14:31 pm »
Depends on what size paper the photocopier can print onto.

You can do it in sections though, I've done that with some artwork, takes a bit of patience and lots of goes ;D but you'll get it all on there eventually, doing it in sections you can go up as big as you want.

Remember paper sizes are all the same aspect ratio, A4 doubles to A3, A3 doubles to A2, A2 doubles to A1 etc, so in an A1 sheet, you'll have 8 A4 sections, work out the percentage of the blow up you want to do (A3 would be 200% of A4, A2 400% etc), then just shuffle the paper round in the photocopier to get the right bit and you're away.

Actually, thinking about it, Hobbs in town does up to A1 photocopies cheap, save hassle and if it's nice clean artwork they'll come out really nice.

thanks for the help, didnt know where to start, has helped alot!
but i think ill leave it to the professionals!
where abouts is Hobbs in town?

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #167 on: May 12, 2007, 04:21:06 pm »
thanks for the help, didnt know where to start, has helped alot!
but i think ill leave it to the professionals!
where abouts is Hobbs in town?


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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #168 on: May 12, 2007, 04:22:55 pm »
thanks again

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #169 on: May 12, 2007, 04:37:50 pm »
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #170 on: May 12, 2007, 04:48:49 pm »
Does anyone have a Gold Liverbird? Would be much appreciated!

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #171 on: May 12, 2007, 04:58:51 pm »
great banner that Imperator

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #172 on: May 12, 2007, 05:02:08 pm »
Just make the fonts vey big, and then print off letters. If you need them bigger than A4, use a photocopier to blow them up.

My technique is to print off the letters (in black on white), and then lay my white felt over it. You can then see enough of the black letter through the felt to be able to mark it out with a felt tip. Then you just cut the letter out of the felt. I've attached a couple of pics below to show you my progress...



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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #173 on: May 12, 2007, 06:47:13 pm »
Anyone who wants the letter stencils they are MS word. All you do is get your size and font then right click the letter and tick outline.

It worked for me  ;D

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #174 on: May 12, 2007, 07:13:10 pm »
Does anyone have a Gold Liverbird? Would be much appreciated!

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #175 on: May 12, 2007, 07:21:44 pm »
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #176 on: May 12, 2007, 08:01:38 pm »
Can someone please explain how the fuck to use photoshop?
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #177 on: May 12, 2007, 11:47:38 pm »
Thats a boss banner Imperator ! ;D
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #178 on: May 13, 2007, 01:12:20 pm »
Thats a boss banner Imperator ! ;D

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #179 on: May 13, 2007, 01:25:04 pm »
Finally finished mine!!!



edit opps 2 big!!
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #180 on: May 13, 2007, 01:43:09 pm »
Boss that mate.
"Djimi gives us another dimension, we're just not sure of what that dimension is!"

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #181 on: May 13, 2007, 02:24:54 pm »
Looks awesome mate. Have you had the edges hemmed?
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #182 on: May 13, 2007, 02:31:03 pm »
Looks awesome mate. Have you had the edges hemmed?

Thanx mate
nah you think in need to?
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« Reply #183 on: May 13, 2007, 04:11:20 pm »
Thanx mate
nah you think in need to?

I would if I were you. Firstly, it will stop it fraying. Secondly, you can overlap the hems by a couple of inches so you can slide a pole in at either end, or string across the top for tying it up. Having a couple of different attachment methods built into your flag saves having to fuck around with tape etc when you're at the match. My old flag has a length of cord running along the top which comes out of the top corners, so I can easily tie it to anything. It is also mountable on poles. I intend to do the same with my new one.
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #184 on: May 13, 2007, 05:00:18 pm »
I would if I were you. Firstly, it will stop it fraying. Secondly, you can overlap the hems by a couple of inches so you can slide a pole in at either end, or string across the top for tying it up. Having a couple of different attachment methods built into your flag saves having to fuck around with tape etc when you're at the match. My old flag has a length of cord running along the top which comes out of the top corners, so I can easily tie it to anything. It is also mountable on poles. I intend to do the same with my new one.

Thats a great idea mate ill get right on ;D cheers
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #185 on: May 13, 2007, 05:18:07 pm »


All done. I've only attached the number 5 on the European Cup with double sided tape...  ;)

Everything else stuck on with uPVA. Off to be stitched tomorrow.
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #186 on: May 13, 2007, 05:28:20 pm »
I know it's about another team, but it didn't half give me a laugh...

Man U just had one surfing the stretford end - with Barclays in the bottom right hand corner.  Heh heh...corporation all the way...
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #187 on: May 14, 2007, 04:37:11 am »
Would deffo get it hemmed, always have done with mine. Also worth a thought, brass eyelets in the four corners, easier to tie it up somewhere and no damage done.
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #188 on: May 14, 2007, 10:46:53 am »
Would deffo get it hemmed, always have done with mine. Also worth a thought, brass eyelets in the four corners, easier to tie it up somewhere and no damage done.

Where do you get them from?
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #189 on: May 14, 2007, 11:10:10 am »
yeah done the hemming last night and have gone for the old length of cord running along the top which comes out of the top corners method ;D
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #190 on: May 14, 2007, 11:29:35 am »


All done. I've only attached the number 5 on the European Cup with double sided tape...  ;)

Everything else stuck on with uPVA. Off to be stitched tomorrow.

Are you taking a 6 with you or is that tempting fate :P

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #191 on: May 14, 2007, 12:40:58 pm »
First effort at doing this.  Not very original i suppose.  'The Rafalution' term is familiar to many reds and I saw the Bob Paisley 'OUR EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY' banner hanging at stamford bridge. 

Two months in the making and finished it just before the first leg at stamford bridge.

Thanks to roper for pointing me in the right direction and Scope for helping out with getting the material.

P.S Hopefully it will be out of date by next Wednesday would gladly do it all again to get one more star on there!!!!
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« Reply #192 on: May 14, 2007, 12:45:37 pm »
First effort at doing this.  Not very original i suppose.  'The Rafalution' term is familiar to many reds and I saw the Bob Paisley 'OUR EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY' banner hanging at stamford bridge. 

Two months in the making and finished it just before the first leg at stamford bridge.

Thanks to roper for pointing me in the right direction and Ginkop for helping out with getting the material.

Looks boss that mate - good work. :wave

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #193 on: May 14, 2007, 12:50:34 pm »
thats boss loving the cup in the middle ;D
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #194 on: May 15, 2007, 03:49:31 pm »
O.K. doing me nut here. Using open office, and just cannot get letters blown up to anything near big enough to use in a banner.

Instructions for a div please.......
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #195 on: May 15, 2007, 03:51:37 pm »
Can someone please explain how the fuck to use photoshop?

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #196 on: May 15, 2007, 03:59:25 pm »
O.K. doing me nut here. Using open office, and just cannot get letters blown up to anything near big enough to use in a banner.

Instructions for a div please.......
For most programmes you can just highlight the font size then type in the size you want eg, 200.

If you use the slider bar it will prob only go up to about 72.

Alternatively you can usualy highlight the text then click on 'edit' at the top, then font. the location varys but there is always a font setting in the drop down lists at the top.
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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #197 on: May 15, 2007, 07:20:48 pm »
How did you lot do the letters ? did you just cut them out and stitch them straight away or did you hem them aswell also how did you do the hemming of the edge of the flag?

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #198 on: May 15, 2007, 09:50:48 pm »
good work guys. imperator, monkey boy, zed et al. great stuff.

what type of places can you get material from?? i'm not in liverpool these days. do any well known places/chain stores have anything worth while??

or is a specialist fabric shop the best bet.

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Re: Flag Making Explained.
« Reply #199 on: May 15, 2007, 10:30:14 pm »
Lettering

Ok to be honest i do my lettering as Roper described at the start of the thread but i will describe it seperately here as ive had a few PM's about it.

Fabric
Before you start anything it is usualy a good idea to wash your fabrics seperately to get rid of any colour that might run. I'm always worried my banners might end up with pink letters!

Printing First of all work out what letters you require for your banner and print them out to the required size. If you are doing this at home you will want to save on ink by using a 'hollow' font like this one: http://www.fontdownloadsfree.com/fonts/1/4/arialichollow_arialic%20hollow.html Or you could use WordArt or something similar. If your using your companies printer you might like to think "fuck it, it's their ink"

If you want letters bigger than A4 your going to have to print them out on multiple sheets and stick all the bits of A4 together. Or use a photocopier to enlarge them, either way its a bit tricky.

Transfering to Fabric

For my banners i have used white cotton drill for my lettering, there are 2 ways to mark out the letters on the fabric depending on its thickness / colour.

1. When using white cotton you can sometimes just lay the fabric over the paper and trace through it marking your fabric with a soft pencil like a 4B.

2. Cut out the letters and draw round them onto your fabric.

Now cut out your letters with a sharp pair of scissors.

Sticking them to your banner

Once i have cut out the letters and positioned them correctly on my banner i use 'bondaweb' to stick them on. REMEMBER your going to have to iron this stuff so have an appropriate surface underneath. then cut the bodaweb for one or two words at a time and place it between the letters and the banner. Letters like 'T' are easy, letters like 'S' are a pain. Then Iron the letters and bingo they are stuck.

As we are going to make a boss banner and have it stitched you dont need 100% coverage witht the bondaweb and the odd flappy bit wont matter.

Stitching

Right you need to find your local Dressmaker / Seemstress / Curtain maker or similar. Usually they are nice old ladies working at home. Once you have located someone, get them to stitch round you lettering with a really tight zig zag stitch, they will know what to do. Then hem all round the banner BUT explain to them that you want about 1" wide hem so you can thread cotton tape through the top and thread wooden dowling up the sides for 'wafting' - thats a technical term.

If you find a nice old dear to stitch it she will probably only charge you £40 or so. Stitching round all those letters is a Bastard so give her an extra £10 or a nice box of chocolates or some flowers. It will also help if you need another one doing in the future.

Hope that helps.
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