Author Topic: Coutinho (Read 292345 times)

wordroam · « **Reply #120 on:** April 15, 2015, 07:43:14 pm »

Quote from: clinical on April 14, 2015, 10:14:08 pm

kept them in when rest of team were out of form. without him they'd be where spurs are at best. But they have him, just like we had Suarez and I hated people saying well without him they'd be so and so.

Conversely we've had team issues making it difficult to be sure of criticism or praise of individuals.

Has to be said, although Newcastle were crap, Coutinho was really starting to turn on the class. And to me it seemed linked to a team that was looking coherent again.

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #121 on:** April 15, 2015, 08:08:29 pm »

Next season I think yes.

Johns_Barn · « **Reply #122 on:** April 15, 2015, 09:55:38 pm »

Quote from: rob1408 on April 11, 2015, 01:10:32 pm

I'd be surprised if he got more than three or four votes. I think he's been our second best player after Skrtel.

THis^

Johns_Barn · « **Reply #123 on:** April 15, 2015, 10:05:10 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on April 14, 2015, 08:14:40 pm

Don't think he's that good consistently yet to play for Bayern, and Pep is probably leaving in 2016

Maybe sooner....

Caston · « **Reply #124 on:** April 16, 2015, 05:34:36 pm »

Been Nominated for both Player of the year and Young player of the year

dmorgan · « **Reply #125 on:** April 16, 2015, 06:02:17 pm »

Surprising... Expected to be in young player but not overall

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #126 on:** April 16, 2015, 06:04:14 pm »

Deserves it. Our best player.

Giono · « **Reply #127 on:** April 16, 2015, 06:20:25 pm »

Quote from: SerbianScouser on April 14, 2015, 08:16:13 pm

In the grand scheme of things I wonder where Coutinho`s best position is.

Yesterday was a perfect example of where he is as a player. He really looked inspired to play - and truth be told he`s playing on this level in terms of being bright on the ball for months - it was like watching Messi in the way he was making opposition players look like fools. It was an absolute pleasure to watch and he stood out on the pitch but for all his endeavor and effort he had no goals or assists to show for.

He is without the doubt one of the brightest talents in the league which makes his stats of 4 goals and 4 assists even that much more baffling. And that makes me wonder if he`ll be good enough to play for us between the lines in the coming years as he still screams to me being a creator rather than goalscorer.

But then in a deeper position question is does he have the stamina and physicality to cope as in that position you`ll be asked at times to put in a last ditch tackle, sprint back to recover and things like that.

He`s practically the only midfielder we have that can pass early and precisely from a halfway line when we win the ball there and want to launch quick attack against disorganized opposition; and we also have more than few very quick players who can get on the end of that pass and make some damage - Sterling, Ibe, Markovic, Sturridge, Henderson even Moreno. Personally I`m not convinced he can physically cope with demands of playing in central midfield area over the course of the season - though he certainly proved he can do it at times.

Wonder how people here see him in the long run and do they believe he can do the job for us as an attacking midfielder and get within double digits in both goals and assists columns.

I think he'd be fine if asked to play a little deeper in a midfield 3. He'd still be able to get involved in play in the final 3rd. He also demonstarted the needed grit playing in the midfield diamond last season.

robgomm · « **Reply #128 on:** April 16, 2015, 06:21:24 pm »

Good for him, I think Hazard or de Gea overall for me though. de Gea saved their season and Hazard has been a consistently very strong creative outlet and goalscorer. Chelsea's best player.

Paullfc95 · « **Reply #129 on:** April 16, 2015, 06:27:48 pm »

Seen some people questioning his appearance on the list?

It's nominations based on who voted, so clearly the top 6 voted for make up the nominees. We've already seen John Terry's voted for him so plenty of others must have done too.

ThePeetmix · « **Reply #130 on:** April 16, 2015, 06:30:10 pm »

Hazard will more likely win both. He's been Chelsea's consistant performer throughout the season and the reason they'll win the title comfortably.

I'm glad Coutinho has been nominated for both.

Red Sea · « **Reply #131 on:** April 16, 2015, 06:36:29 pm »

Been good this season. Well done fella.

JackWard33 · « **Reply #132 on:** April 16, 2015, 06:47:56 pm »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on April 16, 2015, 06:04:14 pm

Deserves it. Our best player.

Depends which half of the season you look at
It's easy to forget but he was one of our poorer players for the first 3/4 months of the season

Still it's nice to see an lfc player on their and he has been sensational since Jan

Halcyon Lissome · « **Reply #133 on:** April 16, 2015, 07:11:10 pm »

Surprised he got nominated considering the first half of the season; but he has been awesome in the second half which is where I guess most of the voting will be near.

Feels good to have at least a player in the list and I think if he can replicate his current form across the season he'll be a winner some day.

My pick for this season is De Gea. He has been the reason United are anywhere near the top 4. They had been dreadful for so many games and he bailed them out consistently. By far the most influential player for a team this season.

Coolie High · « **Reply #134 on:** April 16, 2015, 07:15:01 pm »

Quote from: JackWard33 on April 16, 2015, 06:47:56 pm

Depends which half of the season you look at
It's easy to forget but he was one of our poorer players for the first 3/4 months of the season

Still it's nice to see an lfc player on their and he has been sensational since Jan

But what player hasn't had a run of bad form? Kane Hazard maybe all the rest have..

And he was never one of our poorer players.

He was winning our player of the month awards when he was supposedly one of our poorer players?

SlowRap · « **Reply #135 on:** April 16, 2015, 07:19:45 pm »

Quote from: JackWard33 on April 16, 2015, 06:47:56 pm

Depends which half of the season you look at
It's easy to forget but he was one of our poorer players for the first 3/4 months of the season

Still it's nice to see an lfc player on their and he has been sensational since Jan

Because there was no one making the runs, Rodger's decision to play Sterling as a striker coincided with Phil's increased production.

Coolie High · « **Reply #136 on:** April 16, 2015, 07:21:47 pm »

Quote from: SlowRap on April 16, 2015, 07:19:45 pm

Because there was no one making the runs, Rodger's decision to play Sterling as a striker coincided with Phil's increased production.

And he still wasn't one of our poorer players then, the whole team was poor and he was one of the best of a bad bunch.

Rouge · « **Reply #137 on:** April 16, 2015, 07:27:32 pm »

Quote from: Coolie High on April 16, 2015, 07:15:01 pm

But what player hasn't had a run of bad form? Kane Hazard maybe all the rest have..

And he was never one of our poorer players.

He was winning our player of the month awards when he was supposedly one of our poorer players?

Agreed. Embarrassing some of the entries on this thread how many posts saying Phil doesn't deserve to be nominated because he was playing at his current level since AUGUST, how many players can, has Hazard, Costa, even De Gea?
He has been clearly our best player this season and we are currently sitting 5 imo that makes him worthy of selection.
His fellow professionals have nominated him; that means even CFC players are supporting Phil for the PFA award more then some of our own fans, beggers belief.

Dubred · « **Reply #138 on:** April 16, 2015, 07:31:55 pm »

Brilliant recognition for the lad from his peers.

If anything, it's going to do his confidence the world of good which can only be good news for Liverpool

Chakan · « **Reply #139 on:** April 16, 2015, 07:34:39 pm »

Just trying to butter him up so they can poach him in the off season!

HANDS OFF OUR MAGICIAN!

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #140 on:** April 16, 2015, 08:06:19 pm »

Really chuffed for him. He won't get close to winning but it's still great recognition from fellow players.

wordroam · « **Reply #141 on:** April 16, 2015, 09:21:18 pm »

Given it a bit of thought - it really is nothing less than deserved. Certainly has enough highlights to make a gob-smacking video.

Dubit10 · « **Reply #142 on:** April 16, 2015, 09:22:56 pm »

Deserves to on the list but won't win. It will be between Hazard and Kane imo. How come de gea is on the list he hasn't been better than Courtios?

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #143 on:** April 16, 2015, 09:34:40 pm »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on April 16, 2015, 06:04:14 pm

Deserves it. Our best player.

Skrtel, for me.

RK7 · « **Reply #144 on:** April 16, 2015, 10:11:59 pm »

Quote from: Kopenhagen on April 16, 2015, 09:34:40 pm

Skrtel, for me.

Would agree with this, Skrtel for me also.

The Infamous_LFC · « **Reply #145 on:** April 16, 2015, 10:27:43 pm »

Quote from: SlowRap on April 16, 2015, 07:19:45 pm

Because there was no one making the runs, Rodger's decision to play Sterling as a striker coincided with Phil's increased production.

I agree with this although I too said his form has been patchy. Can't even hold the fact that he didn't score or assist much when he had Lambert,Borini and a unsharp Balotelli in front of him. As soon as he got a striker with movement in front of him he started flourishing. Can't hold that against him. If we do the unthinkable and finish above City or Utd he will be in with a shout if he keeps this form going. Kind of like when Bale won it after lighting up the league pre-Xmas and then going missing for 3/4 months after the new year.

Top player Coutinho

The Infamous_LFC · « **Reply #146 on:** April 16, 2015, 10:28:55 pm »

Quote from: Coolie High on April 16, 2015, 07:21:47 pm

And he still wasn't one of our poorer players then, the whole team was poor and he was one of the best of a bad bunch.

kcbworth · « **Reply #147 on:** April 17, 2015, 12:55:17 am »

I was saying in Oct, Nov, and Dec that Coutinho had been our POTY (some people argued with me that it was Sterling), and that was before he absolutely exploded, so no idea where this view that he was "one of our poorest" has come from.

He was doing good things from day 1 this season.

ThePeetmix · « **Reply #148 on:** April 17, 2015, 02:17:25 am »

Quote from: Dubit10 on April 16, 2015, 09:22:56 pm

Deserves to on the list but won't win. It will be between Hazard and Kane imo. How come de gea is on the list he hasn't been better than Courtios?

De Gea carried Utd for the first half of the season before the rest of their team turned up.

jckliew · « **Reply #149 on:** April 17, 2015, 02:22:07 am »

Not consistent enough for PFA player of the year

Latenight Surfer · « **Reply #150 on:** April 17, 2015, 02:39:56 am »

Quote from: jckliew on April 17, 2015, 02:22:07 am

Not consistent enough for PFA player of the year

So was Giggs in 2009 but he fucking went on to win it. It's not like Coutinho will win it now will he?

kcbworth · « **Reply #151 on:** April 17, 2015, 02:58:22 am »

Quote from: jckliew on April 17, 2015, 02:22:07 am

Not consistent enough for PFA player of the year

No he won't win. Great boost for him being held in such high esteem though - hopefully one of those career kickers for a young guy with so much potential

Seebab · « **Reply #152 on:** April 17, 2015, 03:18:03 am »

Quote from: kcbworth on April 17, 2015, 12:55:17 am

I was saying in Oct, Nov, and Dec that Coutinho had been our POTY (some people argued with me that it was Sterling), and that was before he absolutely exploded, so no idea where this view that he was "one of our poorest" has come from.

He was doing good things from day 1 this season.

Indeed. It's as mystifying as the myth that Alonso was only good for us in his first and last season with his us and was poor the rest of the seasons.

diegoLFC7 · « **Reply #153 on:** April 17, 2015, 03:30:59 am »

With a proper goalscorer Coutinho could be getting 20+ assists a season

GreatEx · « **Reply #154 on:** April 17, 2015, 03:34:00 am »

Glad he extended his contract before this happened, imagine what Raheem's agent would do!

Redman0151 · « **Reply #155 on:** April 17, 2015, 03:34:11 am »

Quote from: diegoLFC7 on April 17, 2015, 03:30:59 am

With a proper goalscorer Coutinho could be getting 20+ assists a season

He had the 2 best scorers in the league in front of him last season and only got 7 assists

diegoLFC7 · « **Reply #156 on:** April 17, 2015, 03:36:22 am »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on April 17, 2015, 03:34:11 am

He had the 2 best scorers in the league in front of him last season and only got 7 assists

To be fair Suarez created most of his own chances, and set up sturridge quite a bit also. Coutinho also didnt look the player he looks now. I wanna see him play with a world class striker now and see how he sets them up.

kcbworth · « **Reply #157 on:** April 17, 2015, 05:17:57 am »

Quote from: diegoLFC7 on April 17, 2015, 03:36:22 am

To be fair Suarez created most of his own chances, and set up sturridge quite a bit also. Coutinho also didnt look the player he looks now. I wanna see him play with a world class striker now and see how he sets them up.

He also was out injured for a good chunk of the season after being absolutely assaulted when he was starting to fly

Ironically, that was kind of the opening into the team for Sterling to get more games (even when he was playing pretty poorly)

edge · « **Reply #158 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:29:35 am »

Quote from: diegoLFC7 on April 17, 2015, 03:36:22 am

To be fair Suarez created most of his own chances, and set up sturridge quite a bit also. Coutinho also didnt look the player he looks now. I wanna see him play with a world class striker now and see how he sets them up.

Imagining Cou in with the Gerrard/Torres partnership of old..

Alf · « **Reply #159 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:40:44 am »

Coutinho never looked the same player when he came back from injury last season. Been our best player by a mile over the last 6 months.