Topic: Brendan Rodgers

[Flaccido Dongingo]

they can't get past the qualifiers as it is.

Bad choice of move imo. Winning is expected domestically. With Rangers back, he'll have a challenge but he will still be seen as poor if he's not winning consistently enough.

And it's a shite league

Sure the original Rangers folded, it's a new company and club, it's their first season in Scottish top flight football.

[elsewhere]

An utter rubbish move for him, he can win the SPL for the next 3 seasons in a row and it won't enhance his reputation one bit. Only some sort of European success will do anything for his reputation and that is not easy at all. Brendan would be better waiting for a PL job.

Exactly. Bad move for him, he should have taken a job like Swansea or coach mid table teams in big European leagues.

[ghirl67]

Would be delighted with Brendan but will be surprised if he comes knowing his budget is likely to be very little and a lot will also depend on how much he is willing to have Peter Lawwell sticking his nose in.

Deila's inexperience meant he struggled with the constraints on him. One good thing that does seem to have come out of Deila's reign is that the youngsters stepping up seem a hell of a lot more ready than previously. According to YA players he did a lot of good things with the YA.

RD's major fault IMO is that he is too nice for his own good. He also did seem to lack the experience to make quick changes when plan A was not working. 

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

Sure the original Rangers folded, it's a new company and club, it's their first season in Scottish top flight football.

Pointless post, but ok.

The new Rangers are now in the league making his job tougher, but not so tough that if he's not winning consistently then it will be viewed as accepable

[IanZG]

Would be great for him to get a few trophies under his belt. Still only 43, keep forgetting how young he was when he was hired here...

[ghirl67]

Pointless post, but ok.

The new Rangers are now in the league making his job tougher, but not so tough that if he's not winning consistently then it will be viewed as accepable

Not pointless to those of us putting money into Scottish football.

[Jookie]

Rodgers is mid-table at best.

With a mid-table club with mid-table resources, he'll be a mid table manager.

With better tools, he's better than a mid-table manager. His record over 3 full seasons at Liverpool was:

2012-13 League position 7th (61pts)

2013-14 League position 2nd (84pts)

2014-15 League position 6th (62pts)

Average league positions of 5th and average points tally of 69pts.

For context the 3 seasons before Rodgers joined we achieved an average league position of 7th and an average points tally of 58.

There's obviously some context behind individual seasons but Rodgers on the whole improved our performance and league position, And before anyone mentions Suarez, he played in 2 of the seasons before Rodgers (albeit from January onwards in 2010-11) arrived and 2 season when Rodgers was in charge.

I suppose my real point is that Rodgers isn't as bad as you, and many others, have made out. He's not a top manager at the moment but he's certainly got the capability to be better than a mid table manager. Because it ended badly at Liverpool it doesn't mean he's useless.

Personally I hope he uses Celtic as a stepping stone to achieve some success and get back to one of the top clubs in England/Europe.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Celtic must be the most boring job in Football.  At least PSG also try to win the CL.

[DangerScouse]

Best of luck wherever he goes, hold no animosity towards him and so close to becoming a club legend.

[S]

Best of luck wherever he goes, hold no animosity towards him and so close to becoming a club legend.

It's weird when you put it like that. A few points and his reputation here would be so different.

Like most I'm still a fan of Rodgers. Hope it goes well.

[Hazell]

Best of luck wherever he goes, hold no animosity towards him and so close to becoming a club legend.

Yeah, don't know why anyone would really. Ultimately, it didn't work out and we should have done better with him overall but he gave us some fantastic games and moments during the 2013/2014 season. For his sake, would think a job in the Premier League would be much better for him but I don't think he'll be getting a bigger job than Celtic any time soon so I can see why he'd be keen on it.

[King_doggerel]

Best of luck wherever he goes, hold no animosity towards him and so close to becoming a club legend.

correct.

still a little saddened at the backlash he got on here from fellow reds when he was sacked.

[Redman0151]

Perfect job for him really.

Boyhood fan, can keep developing and trying new stuff as a manager, get more European experience

[Musketeer Gripweed]

I question if it is the right place for him. His every move move, everywhere, all the time, will be brought up in the press up here. It can be quite unforgiving at times.

[dikwad]

Good luck Brendan, came closer to winning the league than your predecessors of the last 20 years

[Zlen]

Not very ambitious and unlikely to progress much in Scotland.
A bit puzzled by this, expected him to try and take another PL club.

[youll never walk alone it]

Good luck brendan THAT season although ending sadly for us  was just electric, lets hope klopp gets us evem closer in the coming seasons.

[child-in-time]

It strikes me as he is afraid to manage in Europe hence the move.

[exiledintheUSA]

It strikes me as he is afraid to manage in Europe hence the move.

Which is why Everton would a solid choice too.

[Redman0151]

It strikes me as he is afraid to manage in Europe hence the move.

Celtic are in Europe every season

[child-in-time]

Celtic are in Europe every season

I obviously meant a continental club, mate Bit of a nothing move if he manages Celtic, they are not good enough to do well in European competitions, while winning the title means fuck all (and they're eventually going to lose it to Rangers, be it in 2 or 3 years of time).

[TepidT2O]

They're not "huge" ffs.

Oh come come....

Huge in many ways, little  financial clout any more, but there's far more to a club than money
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[Redman0151]

I obviously meant a continental club, mate Bit of a nothing move if he manages Celtic, they are not good enough to do well in European competitions, while winning the title means fuck all (and they're eventually going to lose it to Rangers, be it in 2 or 3 years of time).

How many British managers actually manage a club on the continent? Moyes and Steve McClaren?

Doubt he's "afraid", just British jobs tend to be better paid and he doesn't have to move to an entire new culture

He's gone to manage his boyhood team, hard to take digs at him for it

[B0151?]

He said in 2011 while Swansea manager: "It's a tough job managing Celtic although all my family would love to see me there in the future. Martin O'Neill and Lenny would have walked to be in charge there and I'm no different."

Nice for him if he makes the move. You guys talk about ambition but if you get to manage the club you supported as a kid, that's pretty cool.

[child-in-time]

How many British managers actually manage a club on the continent? Moyes and Steve McClaren?

Doubt he's "afraid", just British jobs tend to be better paid and he doesn't have to move to an entire new culture

He's gone to manage his boyhood team, hard to take digs at him for it

Is this a valid reason for him not to though - "The others are not doing it and so wont I"? This mentality is part of the reason why English managers are so behind than the foreign ones on any point. Succeeding in continental Europe would do wonders for his reputation and adapting to a new culture shouldnt be a problem at all too.

[Redman0151]

Is this a valid reason for him not to though - "The others are not doing it and so wont I"? This mentality is part of the reason why English managers are so behind than the foreign ones on any point. Succeeding in continental Europe would do wonders for his reputation and adapting to a new culture shouldnt be a problem at all too.

Yes, the team he's supported since he was a kid want him to take over 

[DutchRed]

They're not "huge" ffs.

Oh come on. If they and Rangers had been included in the original Premier League back in '92 them two would now challenge Arsenal for the third-biggest club in the league.

[Paragon]

They're not "huge" ffs.

Celtic are a massive club with a worldwide fanbase. They play in a shit league and the standard of players they can attract has sadly slipped, but Celtic have always been huge.

As for Brendan, this could be a great job for him. Hope it works out well if he takes it.

[The North Bank]

Benitez at Newcastle, Rodgers at Celtic, soon Simeone at Everton, its all happening.

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

Celtic are a massive club with a worldwide fanbase. They play in a shit league and the standard of players they can attract has sadly slipped, but Celtic have always been huge.

As for Brendan, this could be a great job for him. Hope it works out well if he takes it.

yeah I'm not too sure about that

[Illmatic]

Seems like it could be the ideal place for him.  Guaranteed to do well in the league, a chance to get some European experience hopefully.

Good luck Brendan.

But wining a Micky mouse championship in Scotland isn’t really going to help his CV much. Would be be better off waiting for middling PL club and getting them to punch above their weight. If Keoman leaves Southhampton that job would be a much better move for him. 

[Paragon]

yeah I'm not too sure about that

I promise you mate, Celtic have a huge fanbase. Shit team yes, but one thing they're not short of is fans.

[Solomon Grundy]

Benitez at Newcastle, Rodgers at Celtic, soon Simeone at Everton, its all happening.

 Simeone will be Arsenals next manager.

[mersey_paradiso]

How many British managers actually manage a club on the continent? Moyes and Steve McClaren?

Doubt he's "afraid", just British jobs tend to be better paid and he doesn't have to move to an entire new culture

He's gone to manage his boyhood team, hard to take digs at him for it

Don't forget the master of Continental management !!



Seriously,  good luck to Brendan - he deserves it after all the shit he got last year.

[exiledintheUSA]

I promise you mate, Celtic have a huge fanbase. Shit team yes, but one thing they're not short of is fans.

Huge global reach to be fair.  They have a supporters club out in California that has about 150 turn up to each televised game.

[El Lobo]

correct.

still a little saddened at the backlash he got on here from fellow reds when he was sacked.

Personally, I'd say it was because he got us so close and then COMPLETELY abandoned what got us so close. When we were close previously, under Rafa, we saw the carpet pulled out from under him. It wasn't a case of changing a winning formula with Rafa, it was ridiculous constraints. With Rodgers, he had the backing. That was the annoyance for me, he was given the sort of money no other Liverpool manager has had and then proceeded to make disastrous transfer after disastrous transfer. Even the ones that look ok now only look ok because Klopp has turned them around.

So many times over the 15 or so months after we got so close where I just wanted to shout in his face 'what the fuck are you doing Brendan?! You fucking had it!!!!'

[BarryCrocker]

Said it back when Delia walked that he'd be perfect for them.

Can't wait for them to make a 'Being: Celtic' with extra subtitles.

[rafathegaffa83]

It strikes me as he is afraid to manage in Europe hence the move.

I don't even think it's that. The impression I get is that he probably thought he'd have an offer from overseas (ideally Spain) or from a bigger, more established PL cub by now. He hasn't. The fact Swansea opted to keep Guidolin must have been pretty galling too. Celtic probably ticks off a few boxes for him: bigger club, European competition, pretty much a sure thing in terms of winning trophies and a chance to enhance his reputation. Now whether that helps long-term in the PL, I'm not quite sure. Neil Lennon ended up at Bolton after years at Celtic.

[Zeb]

If he does alright with them in Europe then he'll have more options after a few years at Celtic you'd think. Although I'd have my doubts on that happening. But good luck to him. Hope he does alright up there if that's his next job.

[aggerdid]

well i put my neck on the line when he was bookies favourite to go there the other week and i'll do it again. he isn't going to celtic.