Topic: Dejan Lovren

[DanA]

Wasn't overly excited when we were linked with him, especially considering the price tag. After watching the video of Carra and Neville talking about him, I have changed my mind.

Welcome to the club Dejan.

(insert mustard joke here)

Can you provide a link?  It'd be much appreciated. I've had a search but can't find it

[LFCTikiTaka]

Carragher & Neville analyse Dejan Lovren

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/zEpoLdEeNE0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/zEpoLdEeNE0</a>

[The Infamous_LFC]

Carragher & Neville analyse Dejan Lovren

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/zEpoLdEeNE0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/zEpoLdEeNE0</a>

Great analysis by Neville and Carra there.

[rickardinho1]

Great analysis by Neville and Carra there.

There's another video posted by the same user of Neville and Carragher analyzing Skrtel and Sakho's defending against Norwich and City which is in complete contrast to how Lovren defends. I found it interesting to watch that analysis after the Lovren one.

It's not really clear who is worse at sinking deep out of Skrtel and Sakho, but hopefully Lovren can help both of them improve in that regard. I think he'll be a tremendously important addition for us, not only because he is individually good but because he'll help organise the guy next to him and make them better as well.

[Zoomers]

There's another video posted by the same user of Neville and Carragher analyzing Skrtel and Sakho's defending against Norwich and City which is in complete contrast to how Lovren defends. I found it interesting to watch that analysis after the Lovren one.

It's not really clear who is worse at sinking deep out of Skrtel and Sakho, but hopefully Lovren can help both of them improve in that regard. I think he'll be a tremendously important addition for us, not only because he is individually good but because he'll help organise the guy next to him and make them better as well.

You're 100% correct. Hopefully Lovren can come in and clean up our defense.

[LiverpoolKopKings]

did the official site play a prank here?



http://www.lfctour.com/news/latest-news/stevie-g-s-wedding-gift-for-lfc-fan

How did they photoshop the tattoos out?

[shwabo1892]

Off topic here, but is Simunic's international career well and truly over after events following the World Cup playoff?

Yes mate.

[clinical]

Carragher & Neville analyse Dejan Lovren

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/zEpoLdEeNE0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/zEpoLdEeNE0</a>

Skrtel could learn a thing or two there as he would 100% back off

[Mike Basset]

Looking forward to having a CB who seems to keep individual errors to a minimum. Hopefully the rest of the defence will learn from him too. I think Sakho-Lovren partnership could be very effective once they get used to each other, but wouldn't be surprised to see Skrtel get the nod either. Happy to have 3 quality CB's now (Assuming Agger leaves), that should be plenty.

On another note, has a premier league team ever been as decimated as Southampton this window?

So far they have lost: Shaw, Lovren, Chambers, Lallana and Lambert. Rodriguez and Schneiderlin also appear to be on the way out.
That's arguably 7 of their first 11 leaving, scary times for Soton fans!

[MD1990]

There's another video posted by the same user of Neville and Carragher analyzing Skrtel and Sakho's defending against Norwich and City which is in complete contrast to how Lovren defends. I found it interesting to watch that analysis after the Lovren one.

It's not really clear who is worse at sinking deep out of Skrtel and Sakho, but hopefully Lovren can help both of them improve in that regard. I think he'll be a tremendously important addition for us, not only because he is individually good but because he'll help organise the guy next to him and make them better as well.

Mignolet doesn't help eing stuck to his line & he is thought to not be a great communiactor also.

[fowlermagic]

Some lovely stuff there by Lovren. Reminds you of Agger the way he brought that ball out and he won it well of course first. Might not happen but to have him & Agger start a game at their best, both fully match fit and eager to please would be Christmas come early.

[Drinks Sangria]

Some lovely stuff there by Lovren. Reminds you of Agger the way he brought that ball out and he won it well of course first. Might not happen but to have him & Agger start a game at their best, both fully match fit and eager to please would be Christmas come early.

I really do think Agger is past his peak, and won't be playing a big role for us this season, if he's here at all. Rodgers clearly likes one of his centre halves to be able to play a bit. Lovren can most definitely do that, and despite looking ungainly, Sakho is courageous in possession and a good passer. We're starting to identify the specific elements the system needs and filter down through the players available to achieve it.

[killer-heels]

Think he can really get a good partnership going with Sakho. Sakho has all the physical attributes to be a really, really dominant centre back but you still feel that in this league he needs his hand holding. That is something that Skrtel isn't going to do but Lovren can and hopefully will.

[RideTheWalrus]

I think it'll start with Skrtel and Lovren, but Sakho will probably take Skrtel's place.

[killer-heels]

I think it'll start with Skrtel and Lovren, but Sakho will probably take Skrtel's place.

Yep, by the end of the season I think Lovren and Sakho will be first choice. They have all the attributes to be a fantastic partnership.

[Crackerjack Sam]

Good signing

[Hank Scorpio]

The signing which will add the most value to the team.

[killer-heels]

The signing which will add the most value to the team.

With all this talk of yet another winger and the ridiculous obsession with full backs, there is quite simply no position more important than centre back.

[fowlermagic]

In recent years I have found with experience that every time we write off a player(s) there is always one or two that will prove the critics wrong with only the club benefiting from it all. I will let the accountants come up with their figures but even with Agger & Skrtel as back ups I think the club could afford that for 12 months allowing the two young lads grow with the required cover that may be essential this year considering how much change is occurring at the club. This might be the largest influx of new players in one window in years and others like Coates, Toure and even Kelly might give way first before Agger & Skrtel even.

I think Lovren has already been pencilled in as the right sided centre back in many of the formations I have seen. Thus Agger's main competition for a start is Sakho and if he leaves then what left sided cover do we have? Coates?? If Aggers time might be up Coates was up last year based on his near sale I thought before injury. Don't want to write him off either I guess but considering he has never been a regular starter for us it be a leap of faith to plan on him more than Agger.

[fowlermagic]

Anyway Lovren does look like a very tidy player and you only have too see that clip to think Hansen at his best coming forward. A stretch perhaps but hey its July when the hopes are high and opinions are full of positivity (or rose tinted BS)

[No Appreciation of Liverpool Opposition]

In recent years I have found with experience that every time we write off a player(s) there is always one or two that will prove the critics wrong with only the club benefiting from it all. I will let the accountants come up with their figures but even with Agger & Skrtel as back ups I think the club could afford that for 12 months allowing the two young lads grow with the required cover that may be essential this year considering how much change is occurring at the club. This might be the largest influx of new players in one window in years and others like Coates, Toure and even Kelly might give way first before Agger & Skrtel even.

I think Lovren has already been pencilled in as the right sided centre back in many of the formations I have seen. Thus Agger's main competition for a start is Sakho and if he leaves then what left sided cover do we have? Coates?? If Aggers time might be up Coates was up last year based on his near sale I thought before injury. Don't want to write him off either I guess but considering he has never been a regular starter for us it be a leap of faith to plan on him more than Agger.

I agree it makes no sense to selll since it will weaken our squad. However we can get 10 mil or so for him and his wages off the books. Brendan feels that he will only go down in value in the next 12 months and if we have injuries we might as well play youngsters like Coates and have Kolo fill in. Personally i want to keep agger since Skrtel is worse to me and not as good at carrying the ball but i'm not manager.

[telekon]

The signing which will add the most value to the team.

You might be right there, mate. Lovren might put a fitting piece to the puzzle, to structure our defence a bit more.

This is not a Skrtel thread but I wonder if (or how much) he can influence Skrtel. Perhaps that partnership can even lower Skrtel's individual errors?

[Bird Bird Bird The Bird Is The Word]

The buzzword around Agger the last season or two has been 'multiplier', Lovren looks like a multiplier too, one that seems to have all the attributes required to be successful in a Rodgers back line. If he clicks, the change in our defense will be black and white.

[firing squad]

Off topic here, but is Simunic's international career well and truly over after events following the World Cup playoff?

Of course it is.

He's 36 and has 7 more games to serve, that's it for him, he was going to end his international career anyway after the WC.

It really says a lot about FIFA when a guy who gets banned for 10 games(including entering the grounds where the NT plays!) for nazism but can play for the club no problem, and then a guy who bites someone can't even train or do anything football related in any way, shape or form.

[Redknobprob]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/zEpoLdEeNE0#t=21" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/zEpoLdEeNE0#t=21</a>

Very nice.  I bet everyone's lovren this vid.

[BabuYagu]

Of course it is.

He's 36 and has 7 more games to serve, that's it for him, he was going to end his international career anyway after the WC.

It really says a lot about FIFA when a guy who gets banned for 10 games(including entering the grounds where the NT plays!) for nazism but can play for the club no problem, and then a guy who bites someone can't even train or do anything football related in any way, shape or form.

Are you implying FIFA don´t take racism that seriously? I´ll have you know that after they got complaints about the fact that all the kids they chose to walk onto the pitch during the world cup were white, they went out and found some non-white kids and forced each captain to read out stearn messages about how racism is bad.

Just to be clear here, FIFA take descrimination VERY seriously, as article 3 outlines.

Discrimination of any kind against a Country, private person or group of people on account of race, skin colour, ethnic, national or social origin, gender, language, religion, political opinion or any other opinion, wealth, birth or any other status, sexual orientation or any other reason is strictly prohibited and punishable by suspension or expulsion. being awarded the World Cup.

Anyway, as Sepp Blatter said, I´m sure gay people can just tone it down for a month and everything will be fine anyway. Alternatively, you could maybe change how applications for hosting the World Cup are dealt with and maybe reject any belonging to countries that have actual laws which descriminate as outlined above.

[Mighty_Red]

Welcome in Lovren, happy to see the words about leadership from Brendan, hope he can display those qualities quickly - its a lot of money to spend on a defender so he has to prove his worth.

It does look like one of Agger or Skrtel will have to be sold, I just can't see us being able to keep 4 top-line defenders happy. I'll be annoyed if Agger goes but if Brendan doesn't rate him enough it's probably better if he goes.

[northern Monkey]

Happy to see Lovren arrive. I can see him fitting really well with any of Agger, Sahko or Skrtel.  A leader that others can take their queue from is exactly what we have been missing without Carra in there.  I'm not so hot on the intricacies of CB play but Lovren seems to read the game very well and has the confidence to back himself against pretty much any forward one on one.

[shwabo1892]

Lovren can't get a visa, he's going to stay in Liverpool and work on his own. Brendan sent him a schedule to work on and wait for the team to come back from the tour.

[Caston]

Lovren can't get a visa, he's going to stay in Liverpool and work on his own. Brendan sent him a schedule to work on and wait for the team to come back from the tour.

Hmm strange, does it say why he couldn't get a visa?

[shwabo1892]

Hmm strange, does it say why he couldn't get a visa?

It just says that he has to wait for 10 days to get a visa, as in normal procedure.

[Caston]

It just says that he has to wait for 10 days to get a visa, as in normal procedure.

Ah okay fair enough, thanks. Bit of a shame as I was hoping he would play in the weekend game, but atleast we will see him against Dortmund

[shwabo1892]

Ah okay fair enough, thanks. Bit of a shame as I was hoping he would play in the weekend game, but atleast we will see him against Dortmund

Yes. Says that Rodgers is furious.

[BabsLFC]

Isnt Croatia in the EU? Do EU citizens still need a VISA to get into the USA?

[Funky_Gibbons]

Could Lovren have applied for a Visa weeks ago or is it a working visa so he needed to be with the club before applying?

[Dingus]

Ah okay fair enough, thanks. Bit of a shame as I was hoping he would play in the weekend game, but atleast we will see him against Dortmund

surprised the u-21's/reserves don't have a fixture arranged, there's normally a few that don't travel abroad for pre-season, and end up playing a B-fixture against a local team?

[shwabo1892]

Isnt Croatia in the EU? Do EU citizens still need a VISA to get into the USA?

I think everyone needs a visa to get in the USA. Yes, Croatia is in the EU.

[PhilV]

I think everyone needs a visa to get in the USA. Yes, Croatia is in the EU.

Everyone needs a VISA/ESTA to get into the USA without exception - even famous sportsmen and celebrities

[clinical]

I think everyone needs a visa to get in the USA. Yes, Croatia is in the EU.

You can get a free waiver visa instantly if you're part of the EU

[fenre]

You can get a free waiver visa instantly if you're part of the EU

Croatia is not included in the Visa Waiver Program: http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/visit/visa-waiver-program.html