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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #40 on: January 9, 2014, 03:05:31 pm »

I'd love to see a partnership of Sakho and Toure. Both beasts, and it would be the right balance of experience, imo. Toure, the veteran defender, looking after the new-comer, Sakho, and helping to mold him into greatness.


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I'd personally love to see this partnership happen

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #41 on: January 9, 2014, 03:13:23 pm »
That smacks of judging him on a 5 minute spell v City. He's brilliant with the ball.

I wouldn't say that he's brilliant with the ball but he is a very good passer.  He doesn't look great dribbling the ball forward but that's not really necessary from him so it's fine. 

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #42 on: January 9, 2014, 03:27:17 pm »
Something I've noticed with him is the technique that he uses to pass the ball belies his somewhat back-leaning body shape. He generally puts more clockwise spin on the ball (left footed passes) and his follow through is usually more across his body than most, and coupled with his backward lean, puts him a bit more off balance leading to the calls of ungainly. But if you look at the passed all, it almost always is perfectly flat and on the ground when it reaches its target with pace, allowing our midfielders to control it more quickly and easily. It almost never has bobbled up off the pitch when reaching the recipient. Huge help for Hendo, lucas, Allen to pivot or turn on the ball with a single touch.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #43 on: January 9, 2014, 03:35:35 pm »
Sahko's passing is brilliant. I think he's got the best pass completion percentage of the whole team no? He did for a while at least. Long passes into the feet that are on the right side of the player and quick/sharp. Sure he looks a little funny doing it but I got no problem with that at all. Think he will be one of our first choice defender for years and one of the best transfers we've made under Brendan.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #44 on: January 9, 2014, 03:49:16 pm »
I think he's great but it is funny how he falls on his arse when he does a long clearance.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #45 on: January 9, 2014, 04:10:57 pm »
Amazed at how some people don't rate him, for me he's easily our best CB and has potential to be one of the best in the league. Skrtel and Agger are awful defenders the sooner we accept that the better, they were blessed playing under counter attacking systems that meant they had a lot of protection and were rarely caught one v one. Add to that how weak they are and how poor the both are from set pieces I'd be very surprised if we weren't in the market for another CB as we speak.

In an ideal world Papadopoulos wouldn't have the injury problems he has as he would be the perfect partner to Sakho, I have faith in our scouting department to find someone just as suitable, I do hope its in this window though as if we stopped shipping in so many silly goals because of errors from our CB's (normally Skrtel) we'd be top of the table or very close to it.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #46 on: January 9, 2014, 04:13:31 pm »
Amazed at how some people don't rate him, for me he's easily our best CB and has potential to be one of the best in the league. Skrtel and Agger are awful defenders the sooner we accept that the better, they were blessed playing under counter attacking systems that meant they had a lot of protection and were rarely caught one v one. Add to that how poor the both are from set pieces I'd be very surprised if we weren't in the market for another CB as we speak.

In an ideal world Papadopoulos wouldn't have the injury problems he has as he would be the perfect partner to Sakho, I have faith in our scouting department to find someone just as suitable, I do hope its in this window though as if we stopped shipping in so many silly goals because of errors from our CB's (normally Skrtel) we'd be top of the table or very close to it.



He doesn't look very gracious. If you take for example someone like Vertonghen, he looks like how people would probably want their defenders to look, which is quite aesthetically calm, strong and good on the ball.

Sakho is like that but without any of the aesthetics. I think thats maybe why people think that.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #47 on: January 9, 2014, 04:14:40 pm »
Amazed at how some people don't rate him, for me he's easily our best CB and has potential to be one of the best in the league. Skrtel and Agger are awful defenders the sooner we accept that the better, they were blessed playing under counter attacking systems that meant they had a lot of protection and were rarely caught one v one. Add to that how weak they are and how poor the both are from set pieces I'd be very surprised if we weren't in the market for another CB as we speak.

In an ideal world Papadopoulos wouldn't have the injury problems he has as he would be the perfect partner to Sakho, I have faith in our scouting department to find someone just as suitable, I do hope its in this window though as if we stopped shipping in so many silly goals because of errors from our CB's (normally Skrtel) we'd be top of the table or very close to it.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #48 on: January 9, 2014, 04:19:28 pm »
He doesn't look very gracious. If you take for example someone like Vertonghen, he looks like how people would probably want their defenders to look, which is quite aesthetically calm, strong and good on the ball.

Sakho is like that but without any of the aesthetics. I think thats maybe why people think that.

Its the size and stature that makes him look awkward on the ball but he is very good on it and as someone mentioned previous most of his passes are forward even if some can look a little risky his pass completion rate for someone who doesn't always play it safe says a lot.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #49 on: January 9, 2014, 04:31:03 pm »
His gait, gives him that appearance. Both feet are slightly flat footed, and he has a jerky passing motion. It looks nervous, but the passing is actually very accurate.
Spot on, looks a bit like Djimi Traore on the ball, but his passing is excellent.

Amazed at how some people don't rate him, for me he's easily our best CB and has potential to be one of the best in the league. Skrtel and Agger are awful defenders the sooner we accept that the better, they were blessed playing under counter attacking systems that meant they had a lot of protection and were rarely caught one v one. Add to that how weak they are and how poor the both are from set pieces I'd be very surprised if we weren't in the market for another CB as we speak.

In an ideal world Papadopoulos wouldn't have the injury problems he has as he would be the perfect partner to Sakho, I have faith in our scouting department to find someone just as suitable, I do hope its in this window though as if we stopped shipping in so many silly goals because of errors from our CB's (normally Skrtel) we'd be top of the table or very close to it.


Awful is going a bit far. They're both fine defenders but I think an upgraded partner is needed for Sakho.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #50 on: January 9, 2014, 04:32:23 pm »
He looks as clumsy as Djimi Traore at times. But that's where the similarities end between the two.

He gets the ball so quickly into the feet of our midfielders and it makes a huge difference to our ability to attack a team. They often don't get the time to press us high up the pitch.

For a 23 year old, there really aren't many up there in his bracket. Varane is the only other young one that springs to mind. We should feel lucky to have him. Really lucky.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #51 on: January 9, 2014, 04:33:15 pm »
He looks as clumsy as Djimi Traore at times. But that's where the similarities end between the two.

He gets the ball so quickly into the feet of our midfielders and it makes a huge difference to our ability to attack a team. They often don't get the time to press us high up the pitch.

For a 23 year old, there really aren't many up there in his bracket. Varane is the only other young one that springs to mind. We should feel lucky to have him. Really lucky.

So should the French national team  ;D
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #52 on: January 9, 2014, 04:36:43 pm »
Spot on, looks a bit like Djimi Traore on the ball, but his passing is excellent.
Awful is going a bit far. They're both fine defenders but I think an upgraded partner is needed for Sakho.

Probably a bit harsh but I don't believe either should be starting regularly. I think Toures early season form and Sakho's performance have highlighted how average Skrtel and Agger really are defensively.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #53 on: January 9, 2014, 04:38:50 pm »
He looks as clumsy as Djimi Traore at times. But that's where the similarities end between the two.

He gets the ball so quickly into the feet of our midfielders and it makes a huge difference to our ability to attack a team. They often don't get the time to press us high up the pitch.

For a 23 year old, there really aren't many up there in his bracket. Varane is the only other young one that springs to mind. We should feel lucky to have him. Really lucky.

How determined Blanc was to keep him says a lot, he wanted first team football though and would of struggled to break through with Marquinhos and Thiago Silva ahead of him, potentially the worlds strongest CB pairing.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #54 on: January 9, 2014, 04:40:27 pm »
How determined Blanc was to keep him says a lot, he wanted first team football though and would of struggled to break through with Marquinhos and Thiago Silva ahead of him, possibly the worlds strongest CB pairing ATM.

Blanc bought Marquinhos though. He's not whiter than white in any of this.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #55 on: January 9, 2014, 04:42:39 pm »
He'll become world class in 3 years, maybe better than Hyypia.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #56 on: January 9, 2014, 04:43:40 pm »
A mate of mine who's a big red reckons hes no good, that he cant hardly stand on his two feet  ::)



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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #57 on: January 9, 2014, 04:44:53 pm »
Blanc bought Marquinhos though. He's not whiter than white in any of this.

Guy Roux' latest comments over the lack of French players at PSG must surely have left him red faced though.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #58 on: January 9, 2014, 04:55:51 pm »
He's quality. Sometimes he tries too hard with keeping the ball on the floor which can lead to some silly mistakes(thinking specifically against Man City).

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« Reply #59 on: January 9, 2014, 05:06:45 pm »
Blanc bought Marquinhos though. He's not whiter than white in any of this.

And has used him sparingly or has he been injured, seems Alex is getting the nod ahead of him. Marquinhos still very young though I suppose, would have been very hard for Sakho to get a look in and he's at the stage of his career now where he needs to be playing at the top level permanently.

Loving our transfer strategy of recruiting players at big clubs who aren't getting a look in and are low on confidence, like how Inter got Sneijder, Bayern got Robben etc. I wonder who else we might be looking at Pastore maybe?
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #60 on: January 9, 2014, 05:13:54 pm »
So should the French national team  ;D

Jesus, yeah. Never even thought about that. Varane and Sakho. Won't be easy to get past that if they gel as a pairing.

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« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2014, 03:28:49 am »
Awesome.  :D
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2014, 03:31:57 am »
He's our best defender.. awkwardness and all.

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« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2014, 04:56:04 am »
How determined Blanc was to keep him says a lot, he wanted first team football though and would of struggled to break through with Marquinhos and Thiago Silva ahead of him, potentially the worlds strongest CB pairing.

marquinhos is on the bench most of the time
alex and thiago silva is the pair

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2014, 07:24:41 am »
I hope he isn't played this weekend if he isn't 100% fit. Better to be safe than risk re-injury.

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« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2014, 02:23:36 pm »
Trained today and in the squad for the Stoke game according to Rodgers.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2014, 02:27:03 pm »
BR: Sakho trained today and looks fine to be in the squad for the weekend.

Brilliant. Thought he would be out for much longer!

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2014, 02:33:12 pm »


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Mamadou Sakho hopes to spend many years at Liverpool and says he does not miss life at Paris St Germain 'at all'.

The French defender completed a deadline day move to Anfield last summer.

He had been linked with a switch to England for some time, with an ambitious project at PSG forcing him down the pecking order.

Liverpool were able to secure his signature and have helped to ease him into Premier League life.



He told Gentside Sport: "At the moment I am very happy in Liverpool.

"I signed for four years and I will try to write my own piece of Liverpool history. I hope that in the coming years we will win many titles.

"Difficulties to adapt are normal - I have changed my team-mates, language, everything is a little trickier. But everything seemed logical and the move made sense.

"We have a group with four international central defenders so we take it in turns. Everyone has their playing time and the others don't impose on it. There is healthy competition."

Sakho was a boyhood PSG supporter and a product of their academy system, but the man who netted two goals in a World Cup play-off to send France to Brazil this summer insists he does not miss home on a sporting level.

He added: "Honestly, no. I do not miss it (PSG) at all. I am 100 per cent in Liverpool and am very happy here.

"I had the chance to wear the jersey of Paris St Germain and achieve my goals for 12 years.

"I had the chance to be part of a generation that fought to maintain standards. I don't want people to forget that there were really difficult times.

"We also managed to win a title that the fans had been waiting many years for. I took great pride in that but entered my English adventure with my eyes open."

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2014, 02:34:13 pm »
BR: Sakho trained today and looks fine to be in the squad for the weekend.

Brilliant. Thought he would be out for much longer!

With Agger out I think there's a chance he might risk him.

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« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2014, 02:34:59 pm »
BR: Sakho trained today and looks fine to be in the squad for the weekend.

Brilliant. Thought he would be out for much longer!

I'm stumped by that. The way he pulled up in the Chelsea game did not look good at all.  Must have some secret healing power lol
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2014, 02:37:47 pm »
The last time something like this happened, it was Yossi's hamstring with placenta therapy from some witch doctor. Funnily enough, I think he came on in the next match and scored a goal (although he didn't look 100%).

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« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2014, 02:39:12 pm »
I'm stumped by that. The way he pulled up in the Chelsea game did not look good at all.  Must have some secret healing power lol
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« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2014, 02:40:23 pm »
It's the horse placenta


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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2014, 03:00:20 pm »
BR: Sakho trained today and looks fine to be in the squad for the weekend.

Brilliant. Thought he would be out for much longer!

Isnt that quite insane? Does he generally come back from injuries faster then normal, or was this injury not as bad as they first thought?

Anyway, great news. The way he has settled in the PL has been very promising

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« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2014, 03:09:11 pm »
Yeah I don't think I've ever seen a player pull up the way Sakho did and then be back a week or two later.

Torres pretty much walked past him as Sakho hobbled on one leg and then Mignoletagoalin made a terrific save before Sakho signalled straight to the bench.

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« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2014, 03:31:23 pm »
Jesus, yeah. Never even thought about that. Varane and Sakho. Won't be easy to get past that if they gel as a pairing.

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« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2014, 03:32:40 pm »
Sakho seems like a genuinely lovely fella.

Its great having him about, cant wait until he starts feeling confortable enough to speak a bit of English.

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« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2014, 03:33:43 pm »
Sakho seems like a genuinely lovely fella.

Its great having him about, cant wait until he starts feeling confortable enough to speak a bit of English.
Yep, and he oozes a kind of brooding confidence. I reckon having someone like him in the dressing can be huge.
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« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2014, 03:36:42 pm »
Yep, and he oozes a kind of brooding confidence. I reckon having someone like him in the dressing can be huge.

Whenever he gives an interview his words always seem very centred.

Talks there about being happy where he is, dismisses the 4 CB thing and says its good competition, keeps PSG on side whist rehiterating his desire to achieve with us.

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« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2014, 03:40:17 pm »
Whenever he gives an interview his words always seem very centred.

Talks there about being happy where he is, dismisses the 4 CB thing and says its good competition, keeps PSG on side whist reiterating his desire to achieve with us.

The French Kompany, beloved by everyone. Just wait.
I have little doubt that he can be as big or even bigger than Kompany for us. You can see from his story that he has overcome his obstacles (poor upbringing) and come out on top, and he now exudes confidence and wisdom.
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