Author Topic: Mamadou Sakho (Read 484774 times)

Smudgester · « **Reply #120 on:** January 18, 2014, 11:10:16 pm »

There is no way Flanagan is first choice ahead of Johnson. A couple of good games and 1 goal against Spurs doesn't change that.

rscanderlech · « **Reply #121 on:** January 18, 2014, 11:16:02 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 18, 2014, 11:10:16 pm

There is no way Flanagan is first choice ahead of Johnson. A couple of good games and 1 goal against Spurs doesn't change that.

Do you not believe that when a player has been performing consistently 2/3 levels below his potential and looking like he belongs in a relegation team for nearly 12 months, he should be dropped at least temporarily? If not in a situation like this, then when ever will youngsters get promoted and be given a proper run of games?

Anyway this is the Sakho thread so let's not continue this here.

Smudgester · « **Reply #122 on:** January 18, 2014, 11:18:02 pm »

True but even a '2/3 levels below his best' Johnson is better than Flanagam

rscanderlech · « **Reply #123 on:** January 18, 2014, 11:19:13 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 18, 2014, 11:18:02 pm

True but even a '2/3 levels below his best' Johnson is better than Flanagam

Alright, if that's how you see it. Let's avoid contaminating the Sakho thread with a separate debate.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #124 on:** January 18, 2014, 11:51:26 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 18, 2014, 11:18:02 pm

True but even a '2/3 levels below his best' Johnson is better than Flanagam

Johnson is a fine full back on his day, but he's no Lahm. 2/3 levels below his best, he's most certainly not better than Flanagan.

Alonso_The_Assassin · « **Reply #125 on:** January 19, 2014, 12:40:26 am »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 18, 2014, 11:10:16 pm

There is no way Flanagan is first choice ahead of Johnson. A couple of good games and 1 goal against Spurs doesn't change that.

Given the way Johnson has played for the last 2 months, I'd say it changes 'that' quite drastically.

Anyway, I'd say Brendan is resting him for the Derby and doesn't want to risk rushing him back in. That decision, if it were true, may have gone against us today.

In any case, I can't wait to have the lad back.

adamski29 · « **Reply #126 on:** January 19, 2014, 01:51:10 pm »

What's the injury situation with sako?

Il Capitano · « **Reply #127 on:** January 19, 2014, 01:55:57 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 18, 2014, 11:18:02 pm

True but even a '2/3 levels below his best' Johnson is better than Flanagam

Haha, no he fucking isn't. Have you watched him at any point in the last three months? He's a fucking dreadful player now.

Smudgester · « **Reply #128 on:** January 19, 2014, 02:09:54 pm »

Quote from: adamski29 on January 19, 2014, 01:51:10 pm

What's the injury situation with sako?

Rodgers said he gad been training with the squad since Thursday. Physioroom says he due back against Everton

cptrios · « **Reply #129 on:** January 19, 2014, 02:47:50 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 19, 2014, 02:09:54 pm

Rodgers said he gad been training with the squad since Thursday. Physioroom says he due back against Everton

Fingers crossed on that one. We need him back badly.

TheBazz · « **Reply #130 on:** January 19, 2014, 04:42:29 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 19, 2014, 02:09:54 pm

Rodgers said he gad been training with the squad since Thursday. Physioroom says he due back against Everton

Knowing our luck, he'll get subbed out and then reinjured.

Bunter · « **Reply #131 on:** January 20, 2014, 12:58:30 pm »

8 days till the Derby, any chance we'll see him back for that?

We look soft as shite when he's not playing, would be nice if he can stay fit all season now. I don't know the stats but is he out most effective defender?

Wiss_LFC · « **Reply #132 on:** January 20, 2014, 02:51:30 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 19, 2014, 02:09:54 pm

Rodgers said he gad been training with the squad since Thursday. Physioroom says he due back against Everton

Thats good news, would of thought he would be back for everton, probably start

AB LFC · « **Reply #133 on:** January 20, 2014, 04:13:58 pm »

Truly hope he's back against Everton. My heart skips a few beats at the thought of Toure against Lukaku

AndyMuller · « **Reply #134 on:** January 20, 2014, 04:14:44 pm »

Hope if he is back for the derby that he bosses and takes control of the whole back four.

gorgepir · « **Reply #135 on:** January 23, 2014, 02:56:20 pm »

Will he be back for the derby? Couldn't see anything mentioned in today's presser.

dmorgan · « **Reply #136 on:** January 26, 2014, 03:40:14 pm »

Wasn't he supposed to be back like a fortnight ago? What's the current prognosis?

ElstonGunn · « **Reply #137 on:** January 26, 2014, 03:55:53 pm »

Quote from: gorgepir on January 23, 2014, 02:56:20 pm

Will he be back for the derby? Couldn't see anything mentioned in today's presser.

James Pearce says unlikely

Anfield Ed · « **Reply #138 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:06:58 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 18, 2014, 11:18:02 pm

True but even a '2/3 levels below his best' Johnson is better than Flanagam

Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. No.

Mamadou · « **Reply #139 on:** January 26, 2014, 04:12:12 pm »

you need my miserable arse

Brentieke · « **Reply #140 on:** January 26, 2014, 05:12:06 pm »

Can't see us winning the Derby if he's out. The only defender in our squad that can keep Lukaku out IMO.

IndianRed · « **Reply #141 on:** January 26, 2014, 05:32:34 pm »

Lukaku will have a field day with a CB pairing of Skrtel and Toure. I'd much rather try Kelly at CB than Toure against Everton.

Cattive Maniere · « **Reply #142 on:** January 26, 2014, 05:33:43 pm »

Quote from: IndianRed on January 26, 2014, 05:32:34 pm

I'd much rather try Kelly at CB than Toure against Everton.

not the right time for experiments

CraigDS · « **Reply #143 on:** January 26, 2014, 05:35:14 pm »

Quote from: IndianRed on January 26, 2014, 05:32:34 pm

Lukaku will have a field day with a CB pairing of Skrtel and Toure. I'd much rather try Kelly at CB than Toure against Everton.

Would be absolute madness.

simsim · « **Reply #144 on:** January 26, 2014, 06:18:25 pm »

Quote from: IndianRed on January 26, 2014, 05:32:34 pm

Lukaku will have a field day with a CB pairing of Skrtel and Toure. I'd much rather try Kelly at CB than Toure against Everton.

You don't try people in a big game mate.

Reese · « **Reply #145 on:** January 26, 2014, 06:58:55 pm »

Quote from: IndianRed on January 26, 2014, 05:32:34 pm

Lukaku will have a field day with a CB pairing of Skrtel and Toure. I'd much rather try Kelly at CB than Toure against Everton.

Really? Replace the player who is constantly tasked with marking the opponent's big man, and has most often done a fine job? For a young player returning from injury that has played in 6 games since September 2012 - never in that position?

But yes, I wish Sakho would be able to play as well. But to replace Toure with Kelly? Ehh No.

dmorgan · « **Reply #146 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:08:06 pm »

Lukaku has been pretty shit recently though but always tends to score against us. Who plays in our midfield would be the greater dilemma for me

NorthamptonKopite · « **Reply #147 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:21:23 pm »

Is it possible that Brendan is playing it down with Sakho and Allen, and purposely didn't put them on the bench Saturday to shock Everton on Tuesday when they both line up?

Probably clutching at straws though...

newterp · « **Reply #148 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:33:26 pm »

this is starting to get worrisome.

Kansti · « **Reply #149 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:01:39 am »

For all of his aggression and prowess in the air, we've really missed his passes out from the back. Neiter Skrtel nor Toure does that.

googhead · « **Reply #150 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:33:07 am »

Quote from: Kansti on January 27, 2014, 06:01:39 am

For all of his aggression and prowess in the air, we've really missed his passes out from the back. Neiter Skrtel nor Toure does that.

his actual aerial challanges won stats aren't that great, I think sktrel and agger where ahead of him, but yer I agree, also he seems to be criminally underrated by oppo supporters, possibly because he can look so clumsy despite being our best and most assured defender by far

ThePoolMan · « **Reply #151 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:51:37 am »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 18, 2014, 11:18:02 pm

True but even a '2/3 levels below his best' Johnson is better than Flanagam

The Johnson who is currently playing is far worse than the Flanagan of this season before his injury.

Frizzo · « **Reply #152 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:55:25 am »

Quote from: IndianRed on January 26, 2014, 05:32:34 pm

Lukaku will have a field day with a CB pairing of Skrtel and Toure. I'd much rather try Kelly at CB than Toure against Everton.

Awful shout.

"21C or 70F?" SchizoidWeatherMan! · « **Reply #153 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:57:30 am »

Quote from: Smudgester on January 18, 2014, 11:18:02 pm

True but even a '2/3 levels below his best' Johnson is better than Flanagam

Doesnt apply this season, sorry.

I don't know what his 'best' is, but he hasn't been anywhere close to it for the last couple of seasons, injuries notwithstanding.

On current form, Flanno is far better than Johnson and I mean the 'far' part. Better defensively, keeps the ball going forward, participates in our approach play and shows some good intelligence and awareness. The only slight flaw has been his rash tackling.

ThePoolMan · « **Reply #154 on:** January 27, 2014, 07:03:11 am »

Quote from: IndianRed on January 26, 2014, 05:32:34 pm

Lukaku will have a field day with a CB pairing of Skrtel and Toure. I'd much rather try Kelly at CB than Toure against Everton.

With respect, that is the strangest and most suicidal idea I have read for a while on this board. Kelly hasn't played as CB for a long time - let alone in a crunch game like that and against such a formidable opponent as Lukaku. Secondly Kelly has not been the same player since his last injury.

SwordInYourGut · « **Reply #155 on:** January 27, 2014, 07:14:10 am »

Quote from: IndianRed on January 26, 2014, 05:32:34 pm

Lukaku will have a field day with a CB pairing of Skrtel and Toure. I'd much rather try Kelly at CB than Toure against Everton.

I sincerely hope you are joking. Kelly at his best would do a good job against a speedy centre forward, but he hasn't shown any signs that he is close to that level or indeed will ever reach that level since he has returned from injury. I think Toure and Skrtel will rather relish playing against Lukaku. They are the 2 most physical CBs we have in the squad. I would worry a lot more about them if it was someone like Aguero turning them inside out.

Ronnie1932 · « **Reply #156 on:** January 27, 2014, 07:17:42 am »

Fuck off with the Johnston posts, lukaku has been terrible of late but has been known to cause us problems in the past. Think we will do them to be honest.

AndyMuller · « **Reply #157 on:** January 27, 2014, 09:39:32 am »

How long is he out for then? Feels like ages ago since I last saw him play.

youll never walk alone it · « **Reply #158 on:** January 27, 2014, 09:42:29 am »

To be fair to indian red, i can see why he is so worried at toure playing centre back v them, but almost certainly kelly would do even worse! no way could we risk kelly, got a feeling the bitters will score 2 minimum, but thats not to say we wont get 3!

rickardinho1 · « **Reply #159 on:** January 27, 2014, 10:11:14 am »

Toure has looked comfortable playing as the right sided CB this season, especially in the games where he's been paired with Agger. That hasn't happened that many times this season though since Skrtel has been rocksolid for the most part. Toure on the left is another matter though.

Hopefully we see a Skrtel-Sakho partnership tomorrow.