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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #200 on: August 10, 2013, 06:56:12 pm »
Looks lively, not too sure what downing offers that ibe doesnt, especially against teams that sit back the entire match but hey ho.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #201 on: August 10, 2013, 06:56:17 pm »
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #202 on: August 10, 2013, 06:58:18 pm »
Should be ahead of Downing in the pecking order. So much pace, great dribbling, always positive and looks a goal threat.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #203 on: August 10, 2013, 06:59:44 pm »
Quote from: xx on August 10, 2013, 06:58:18 pm
Should be ahead of Downing in the pecking order. So much pace, great dribbling, always positive and looks a goal threat.

Because of his age and progression he has to be carefully managed.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #204 on: August 10, 2013, 06:59:59 pm »
Epitome of the young impact player from the bench. So talented and direct with it
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #205 on: August 10, 2013, 07:01:07 pm »
Looked much more dangerous than Downing when he came on. Hopefully we get in a quality right winger and have Ibe as an option on the bench. He's definitely a good player to use against tired legs.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #206 on: August 10, 2013, 07:02:19 pm »
Looks as big a prospect as Sterling and will probably be on the bench against Stoke after today
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #207 on: August 10, 2013, 07:04:32 pm »
End product is good for such a young lad
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #208 on: August 10, 2013, 07:06:37 pm »
Awesome potential this lad has. Wish we could start him ahead of Downing, but unfortunately he's still only 17 (pretty strong 17).
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #209 on: August 10, 2013, 07:07:33 pm »
He beat more players in 15 mins than Downing did in the whole game
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #210 on: August 10, 2013, 07:08:50 pm »
Hopefully, if Sterling isn't starting it's not going to be a case of one or the other on the bench. We could do with having them both as options in the match day squads.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #211 on: August 10, 2013, 07:08:51 pm »
Done well in his short cameo today.  Very fast and direct.  Offers so much more than 29 year old Downing.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #212 on: August 10, 2013, 07:09:44 pm »
Quote from: Mali1 on August 10, 2013, 07:07:33 pm
He beat more players in 15 mins than Downing did in the whole game

That's patently not true. I thought Downing had a good game. There was the run downing made to the byline and pulled the ball back only for TWO Liverpool players to miss the ball completely.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #213 on: August 10, 2013, 07:09:51 pm »
Every time he comes on and does some half decent stuff against tired legs people are desperate for him to be in the first team.

He's 17, his strength and pace are his main attributes, he has a long way to go before we can consider him good enough to play our tactical system against the top sides, he needs a year with the 21's/on loan, if he impresses and develops his game, then start looking at him in PL matches

There is no need nor reason to rush him, we already have Sterling who is a significantly more rounded player
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #214 on: August 10, 2013, 07:10:50 pm »
Quote from: spider-neil on August 10, 2013, 07:09:44 pm
That's patently not true. I thought Downing had a good game. There was the run downing made to the byline and pulled the ball back only for TWO Liverpool players to miss the ball completely.

Downing slows the play down completely though, its utterly pointless.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #215 on: August 10, 2013, 07:12:10 pm »
Quote from: DefJack on August 10, 2013, 07:09:51 pm
Every time he comes on and does some half decent stuff against tired legs people are desperate for him to be in the first team.

Exactly why he'll be such a useful option to have on the bench. Oh and it's been more than "some half decent stuff".
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #216 on: August 10, 2013, 07:16:40 pm »
Downing had a good game. Ibe did well when he came on. Ibe is still learning. Dont puff him up too much.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #217 on: August 10, 2013, 07:20:29 pm »
He was facing a player as equally inexperienced as him to be fair, and Downing did have a good game beforehand. Still lots of positive signs, definitely a player who could make an impact coming off the bench this season.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #218 on: August 10, 2013, 07:22:27 pm »
Quote from: spider-neil on August 10, 2013, 07:09:44 pm
That's patently not true. I thought Downing had a good game. There was the run downing made to the byline and pulled the ball back only for TWO Liverpool players to miss the ball completely.

The problem is exactly that. He does not try beyond having a good game. His good game is working hard, running up and down. But he won't go further behind defenders. Had plenty of shots / crosses that were blocked. Ibe has that unpredictability, something Downing lacks.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #219 on: August 10, 2013, 07:24:07 pm »
He did well when he came on and he generally had a solid pre-season. I think he'll be a decent option to have in the squad this season.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #220 on: August 10, 2013, 07:25:49 pm »
Quote from: DefJack on August 10, 2013, 07:09:51 pm
Every time he comes on and does some half decent stuff against tired legs people are desperate for him to be in the first team.

He's 17, his strength and pace are his main attributes, he has a long way to go before we can consider him good enough to play our tactical system against the top sides, he needs a year with the 21's/on loan, if he impresses and develops his game, then start looking at him in PL matches

There is no need nor reason to rush him, we already have Sterling who is a significantly more rounded player
But that speed and directness can surely be utilised towards the end of Premiership games? We have no one in our squad with his speed and directness. Sterling has the speed, but not the directness and initial speed of Ibe. I would start Sterling and bring on Ibe with 20 minutes to go.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #221 on: August 10, 2013, 07:32:40 pm »
Sterling seems slower than he did for the reserves/18's but somehow Ibe seems faster.

Just an observation. Either way, they're both class though.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #222 on: August 11, 2013, 06:42:57 am »
Quote from: babraham on August 10, 2013, 07:32:40 pm
Sterling seems slower than he did for the reserves/18's but somehow Ibe seems faster.

Just an observation. Either way, they're both class though.

Think Sterling is quite agile but I don't think his top end speed is that great. His acceleration however is quite good but I think the biggest problem Sterling had last season was basically him not having enough pace to knock it past defenders and run. Initially they tried to get too close to him and he would quite easily spin away from them but after a few games they gave him a yard of space and he didn't quite seem to know what to do because he wasn't fast enough to just knock it past and run or skillful enough to do something with just that yard of space.

Ibe doesn't struggle with that. He can quite comfortably knock the ball past someone and get to it. And I think it's  a huge difference to their play. I reckon Sterling has to grow slightly bigger and faster and there is no reason why he won't given he is only 18 for him to be able to do what he was doing at the U-18 level where no one could stand with him.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #223 on: August 11, 2013, 09:29:36 am »
Ibe is younger, faster, better technique and low salary than Downing.

Stew good luck in WHU. :wave
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #224 on: August 11, 2013, 12:13:31 pm »
Quote from: MerseysideRed on August 11, 2013, 09:29:36 am
Ibe is younger, faster, better technique and low salary than Downing.

Stew good luck in WHU. :wave

Lets not start comparing him to an England international already, at least let him play 20 seinor games!
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #225 on: August 11, 2013, 01:43:15 pm »
Slag on Downing thread? Downing was nowhere near as bad as some are making out and put it on a plate for Coutinho to equalise.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #226 on: August 11, 2013, 01:48:17 pm »
Could be world class this lad.

Hey people, I just managed to praise him without lambasting downing, some of you should try it.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #227 on: August 11, 2013, 01:57:03 pm »
Quote from: Mali1 on August 10, 2013, 07:22:27 pm
The problem is exactly that. He does not try beyond having a good game. His good game is working hard, running up and down. But he won't go further behind defenders. Had plenty of shots / crosses that were blocked. Ibe has that unpredictability, something Downing lacks.

I agree with this and I think we should be looking to improve on Downing but he does his job well. He provides tactical balance and part of me thinks we're going to have a problem with balancing the side this season.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #228 on: August 11, 2013, 03:21:18 pm »
Quote from: robgomm on August 11, 2013, 01:57:03 pm
I agree with this and I think we should be looking to improve on Downing but he does his job well. He provides tactical balance and part of me thinks we're going to have a problem with balancing the side this season.

Exactly. They are playing on opposite flanks, have different styles and roles and are over ten years apart - I don't see why the comparison is there with Downing. Sterling and Ibe are the two players we should be looking at, Downings position on the field and at the club is totally different.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #229 on: August 11, 2013, 07:41:23 pm »
It's time to change the stupid spending money on players who give us nothing. Now is time for fresh young guys. Look at the ManU. They already have young fresh team. Why? Because they not throw cash in the garbage. Cole, Carroll and now Downing. WHU takes them all. Sterling, Ibe this is are future.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #230 on: August 11, 2013, 07:45:39 pm »
Quote from: Spanish Al on August 11, 2013, 01:48:17 pm
Could be world class this lad.

Hey people, I just managed to praise him without lambasting downing, some of you should try it.

No, it was obvious you were having a sly dig at Downing by saying he isn't world class.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #231 on: August 11, 2013, 07:51:01 pm »
Quote from: Spanish Al on August 11, 2013, 01:48:17 pm
Could be world class this lad.

Hey people, I just managed to praise him without lambasting downing, some of you should try it.
I think it's a bit early to be saying that. Let's see at the end of his first senior season!
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #232 on: August 11, 2013, 09:10:03 pm »
Better than Sterling. Hang on to those two, one on either side in a 3, in a couple of years they could be very good.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #233 on: August 11, 2013, 09:37:25 pm »
Quote from: Arthurs Bar on August 11, 2013, 09:10:03 pm
Better than Sterling. Hang on to those two, one on either side in a 3, in a couple of years they could be very good.

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Quote from: rscanderlech on August 11, 2013, 07:51:01 pm
I think it's a bit early to be saying that. Let's see at the end of his first senior season!
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #234 on: August 12, 2013, 01:59:34 pm »
If this lad was barca b team and we were in for him for 15m. 
I would be unbelievably excited.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #235 on: August 12, 2013, 02:34:17 pm »
This guy is 17 and can grow better facial hair than the average grown man.
Game, set and match.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #236 on: August 27, 2013, 10:08:30 pm »
Not ready
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #237 on: August 27, 2013, 10:14:14 pm »
Quote from: BlindJack on August 27, 2013, 10:08:30 pm
Not ready

Maybe not - but the lad should learn so much from this game.

More disappointed with the attitude of the more senior players than learning that Jordon Ibe isn't quite ready to be honest.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #238 on: August 27, 2013, 10:20:06 pm »
Quote from: BlindJack on August 27, 2013, 10:08:30 pm
Not ready

Not for 120 minutes he isn't.

He has shown some very good play at times tonight though, and should be used sparingly over this season to allow him to bed in.

Huge huge prospect.
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Re: Jordon Ashley Femi Ibe
« Reply #239 on: August 27, 2013, 10:21:49 pm »
Started really well, but lost himself a bit as the game went on. A great prospect.
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