Author Topic: Should the UK keep the Royal Family? (Read 55378 times)

Andy @ Allerton! · « **on:** April 23, 2016, 07:42:39 am »

This argument has 'raged' on for years. Should the UK embrace their past and the history of the Kings and Queens and Royalty? Or should they step forward into a modern era without the outdated system of 'Royalty'?

CHOPPER · « **Reply #1 on:** April 23, 2016, 07:46:18 am »

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #2 on:** April 23, 2016, 07:55:55 am »

I've heard those Midlands folk are devout Royalists, they'll be after you now Andy.

hide5seek · « **Reply #3 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:07:52 am »

Quote from: Crosby Knickerless on April 23, 2016, 07:55:55 am

I've heard those Midlands folk are devout Royalists, they'll be after you now Andy.

Not all of us. Definitely bin.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #4 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:18:29 am »

Quote from: hide5seek on April 23, 2016, 08:07:52 am

Not all of us. Definitely bin.

That was my point really! In Andy's world if you're not living in the North you're a rampant Tory Royalist (probably with a couple of Panama accounts tucked away).

Party Phil · « **Reply #5 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:27:20 am »

I feel a bit left out here Andy, I'm from the UK but I don't live in the UK. I would vote to bin them (off with their heads).

Alex Raisbeck · « **Reply #6 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:53:39 am »

I think we should replace them with a temporary monarchy from an agency and pay them less-maybe only using them for impressing Americans and christening ships.

Titi Camara · « **Reply #7 on:** April 23, 2016, 09:00:52 am »

No idea why so many voting options, bin or no bin is the only question.

The answer to which is fuck em off sharpish, the bunch of OOT c*nts that they are!

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #8 on:** April 23, 2016, 09:18:00 am »

Quote from: Titi Camara's Back please on April 23, 2016, 09:00:52 am

No idea why so many voting options, bin or no bin is the only question.

The answer to which is fuck em off sharpish, the bunch of OOT c*nts that they are!

I was interested in the different takes depending on roughly where you are..

El Lobo · « **Reply #9 on:** April 23, 2016, 09:23:57 am »

Bless, this has fucked you over a bit so far hasn't it Andy?

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #10 on:** April 23, 2016, 10:13:11 am »

Quote from: El Lobo on April 23, 2016, 09:23:57 am

Bless, this has fucked you over a bit so far hasn't it Andy?

Not particularly. I'm not that arsed if we keep them. But I'm not sure they have a place in a Modern Democratic country.

If the UK leaves Europe then I'm sure they will have a place as we'll have stepped back a couple of hundred years though.

oldfordie · « **Reply #11 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:36:31 am »

I voted to keep her, not a massive supporter of the Royal family as a whole but feel she is a part of our identity. she has a positive effect wherever she goes is that really so bad,if it is then it's a f...up world. she certainly knows how to cheer everyone up with a good party as well. anyway look what happened last time we got rid of the monarchy, who did we get to take her place. one right miserable bas.... Oliver Cromwell. banned everything. if that's change then leave me out

sminp · « **Reply #12 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:45:46 am »

If we got rid of the Royal Family would that make David Cameron the President?

oldfordie · « **Reply #13 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:50:29 am »

Quote from: sminp on April 23, 2016, 11:45:46 am

If we got rid of the Royal Family would that make David Cameron the President?

No, he would be The Lord Protector but to be fair he is well suited for the job

tubby · « **Reply #14 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:53:00 am »

Don't care.

... · « **Reply #15 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:54:23 am »

Quote from: tubby on April 23, 2016, 11:53:00 am

Don't care.

That sort of apathy is part of the reason why they're still there, and we have a tory government (irrelevant if you like 'em I guess...)

KillieRed · « **Reply #16 on:** April 23, 2016, 12:02:32 pm »

Bin them. And whilst we are at it take the Lords too.

We need a real Republic with a full reset of the democratic process. Of course MP'S will never vote for it.

J_Kopite · « **Reply #17 on:** April 23, 2016, 12:07:16 pm »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on April 23, 2016, 09:18:00 am

I was interested in the different takes depending on roughly where you are..

Results weren't what you expecting were they? Ha

Redman0151 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 23, 2016, 12:12:17 pm »

Shapeshifting lizards OUT

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #19 on:** April 23, 2016, 12:52:01 pm »

Quote from: J_Klopprophage on April 23, 2016, 12:07:16 pm

Results weren't what you expecting were they? Ha

I was expecting to see results that matched how people felt. If there are loads of people in the South that want them binned then great. What's not to like?

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #20 on:** April 23, 2016, 02:40:17 pm »

Whenever i think we should get rid i look at a super power than now has a probable choice between Mrs Clinton or Donald Trump, they are also good for Tourist Revenues

B0151? · « **Reply #21 on:** April 23, 2016, 04:52:58 pm »

Not arsed so went for the cheese option

B0151? · « **Reply #22 on:** April 23, 2016, 04:55:10 pm »

President Cameron sounds a lot worse than Queen Liz in fairness

In fact, some of those republics with their presidents seem just as shite as a powerless monarchy

Circa1892 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 23, 2016, 07:09:35 pm »

Quote from: Bakez0151 on April 23, 2016, 04:55:10 pm

President Cameron sounds a lot worse than Queen Liz in fairness

In fact, some of those republics with their presidents seem just as shite as a powerless monarchy

The problem isn't the old, privileged bastards in their palaces.

The problem is the privileged bastards in the Government. The presence of a monarch rather than a President means the PM is defacto head of state without the seperation of powers. And Cameron is a c*nt.

nick_8589 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:30:34 pm »

Quote from: oldfordie on April 23, 2016, 11:36:31 am

I voted to keep her, not a massive supporter of the Royal family as a whole but feel she is a part of our identity. she has a positive effect wherever she goes is that really so bad,if it is then it's a f...up world. she certainly knows how to cheer everyone up with a good party as well. anyway look what happened last time we got rid of the monarchy, who did we get to take her place. one right miserable bas.... Oliver Cromwell. banned everything. if that's change then leave me out

I mean, I don't think Cromwell's got a shout at Lord protectorate anymore, just saying.

sms1986 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:32:37 pm »

On another forum I suggested once that there should be a referendum on the monarchy every time a monarch dies, so at least there would be some democracy involved.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #26 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:40:17 pm »

Difficult one, as I look at Republic's and wonder what is so special about them, I don't see the attraction there either. Don't like Charles especially and certainly not Camilla. But I am not wildly against William, he seems a half-decent guy. Still haven't answered the question, guess for now I would be indifferent either way. Is there an alternative to becoming a Republic?

Les Willis · « **Reply #27 on:** April 23, 2016, 08:49:33 pm »

A constitutional monarchy that we currently have is as good a system as any. I can see the argument for a republic but not sure it would be any better.

EDIT: Though I can fully appreciate that scaling down the monarchy and reforming the House of Lords to make it more democratic is something that needs to be done.

AndyMuller · « **Reply #28 on:** April 23, 2016, 10:04:38 pm »

sms1986 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 23, 2016, 10:07:37 pm »

Quote from: Les Willis on April 23, 2016, 08:49:33 pm

A constitutional monarchy that we currently have is as good a system as any. I can see the argument for a republic but not sure it would be any better.

EDIT: Though I can fully appreciate that scaling down the monarchy and reforming the House of Lords to make it more democratic is something that needs to be done.

Yeah, we need a fully elected House of Lords. It should not be full of aristocrats, it should be a second house that complements the House of Commons.

hide5seek · « **Reply #30 on:** April 23, 2016, 10:33:30 pm »

Quote from: sms1986 on April 23, 2016, 10:07:37 pm

Yeah, we need a fully elected House of Lords. It should not be full of aristocrats, it should be a second house that complements the House of Commons.

Though to be fair the present house of Lards has done a better job than her maj's opposition. (and yes the a was meant).

Samie · « **Reply #31 on:** April 23, 2016, 10:36:18 pm »

They have no power anymore so what is the use of this lot? Bin them!

TepidT2O · « **Reply #32 on:** April 23, 2016, 10:42:00 pm »

Quote from: Samie on April 23, 2016, 10:36:18 pm

They have no power anymore so what is the use of this lot? Bin them!

Surely that's the point?

Titular head of state with no power..... Does the ceremonial job of head of state and nothing else...

It's the most bizarre situation, one which you would never create... But bizarrely it actually works quite well (for the moment)...

Of course, it's absurd to have a heridatry monarch... But to change I would want something that works better...

It's a strange world we find ourselves in....

Samie · « **Reply #33 on:** April 23, 2016, 10:48:02 pm »

But she uses our money to fix up her houses and doesn't a percentage of what we give the government go to her clan so they could do whatever they do?

Lfsea · « **Reply #34 on:** April 23, 2016, 10:54:30 pm »

Here's a question (and I'm ideologically opposed to the Royals, by the way):

How would we resolve the issue of the complete collapse of the industries which exist because of the Royal family? There must be thousands upon thousands of jobs which depend on its existence.

That's not a reason to keep it, but a 2013 article in The Atlantic, reports that The Royal's boost to the economy is worth in excess of half a billion quid.

I'd want to see a fully financial assessment on who it would affect at the bottom rungs of the ladder, before I made any judgement on whether to biff or not.

So I voted cheese.

Twelfth Man · « **Reply #35 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:01:24 pm »

Should lizards really be living this far up north? Surely they need to be in a more suitable climate.

Sammy5IsAlive · « **Reply #36 on:** April 23, 2016, 11:14:56 pm »

I'm pretty neutral on the monarchy as an institution and don't see any pressing need to get rid. the negatives are balanced out by the positives for me.

Dizzyfinn · « **Reply #37 on:** April 24, 2016, 12:45:20 am »

I no longer live in the uk and haven't for 15 years. Still visit several times a year and consider it home. Where do you want my vote?

Euskadi · « **Reply #38 on:** April 24, 2016, 01:19:37 am »

Quote from: Tepid water on April 23, 2016, 10:42:00 pm

Surely that's the point?

Titular head of state with no power..... Does the ceremonial job of head of state and nothing else...

It's the most bizarre situation, one which you would never create... But bizarrely it actually works quite well (for the moment)...

Of course, it's absurd to have a heridatry monarch... But to change I would want something that works better...

It's a strange world we find ourselves in....

Very well put mate.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #39 on:** April 24, 2016, 08:34:39 am »

Quote from: Samie on April 23, 2016, 10:48:02 pm

But she uses our money to fix up her houses and doesn't a percentage of what we give the government go to her clan so they could do whatever they do?

As far as I know (and I may be wrong) only the queen and her direct offspring get anything... Still, when everyone else has their budgets cut, it does seem perverse

I have less issue with giving her money to fix up her houses though....

If we abolished the royal family tomorrow, they would still be part of of nation's history and would still be maintained in some way by the public...

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Author Topic: Should the UK keep the Royal Family? (Read 55378 times)