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Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:23:41 pm »
I asked Albie to ban me for a month such was my dismay and anger about the way the Labour Leadership thread has been manipulated by two mods who have allowed personal attacks on anyone even mildly supporting Corbyn or the democratic mandate,

The rot was in from the start, the only people banned it appeared were Corbyn supporters meanwhile i could be called directly a liar by one poster and these Two mods and a so called respected poster used the Scum paper to denigrate my character how desperate were they and how utterly disgraceful their actions .

They also bullied it seemed anybody slightly supporting Corbyn including Johnno a decent poster for many years this has stopped many posters from even entering this thread let alone openly speaking their mind

 so it has become (as intended it seems)  a lets all slate Corbyn nodding dog thread,  this has been an all time low for RAWK and the actions of some people in this thread are beneath contempt, for anyone to act this way in RAWK is a beyond belief let alone for two mods to it seemed  openly allow,  encourage and take part in this bullying with their obvious bias blind spot .

So thats me out of here when it has become impossible in Rawk to defend a Socialist leader or the democratic rights of Labour Members  Rawk has ceased to be the place it was !

i never thought i would see this sorry day.

So it has now become impossible for me to post in here after that scum newspaper slur deliberately aimed at me, thank you Albie thank you the Auld Arses. Tepid etc the wise heads in the Football threads bye.

For the many friends i have met in here stay healthy and best wishes for the future,  some of you know how to contact me elsewhere

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2016, 05:10:57 pm »
I am sorry to read this as I think of you as one of the good guys on RAWK.

Take care man    :)

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 05:27:11 pm »
I am so sad to hear this, and sorry about what has transpired, take care mate and please reach out if you want.
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 05:48:37 pm »
Geoff, you shouldn't let political disagreements affect posting on the site. I know it's difficult on there, because feelings run high on both sides, but I for one have tried to largely stay away from the threads (trying not to fuel the fires - admittedly, sometimes I fail). Just stay and post on the main football boards, if people dissing Corbyn piss you off, then just don't read or post in those threads.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2016, 05:49:33 pm »
Phil!... fuckin Phil!
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2016, 06:14:07 pm »
Sorry you feel that way mate. We have different opinions about Corbyn but the differences are still fundamentally down to strategy not politics. I'm not ABC (Anyone But Corbyn) I'm ABT (Anyone But the Tories) and that's true of most of the people arguing against Corbyn.

Anyway, that's for that thread not this one. Stay and do the things you enjoy doing. Because talking about footie and chatting in the Auld Arses isn't just about you, it gives pleasure to others.

I've thought about recommending that we close down the Labour thread but in all conscience I don't think it's right as we are fundamentally a left-wing site and those views need to be aired, no matter how divisive and how painful.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 06:31:02 pm »
Well I must say, you will be missed. 

I think you're absolutely wrong though, the very reason the thread is devicive is because this is a left wing site.  Opinions are are deeply divided, tempers inflamed and passions raised.

It's exactly the same as the Labour Party itself.  If ever there was a representation of the party it's that thread.  Decent people on both sides going at it hammer and tong.  That includes the mods too, who are as human as the rest of us (apart from Alan whom I'm convinced is actually a cyborg, but that's for a different thread).

Now look here you old fucker, first and foremost this is a football website.  There's so much to discuss in the on the pitch, that it would be great if you could flounce only as far as the football forum, as that's the real reason we are all here.  We need more defender of lost causes, because we've seen it works, and there is redemption.

Anyway, I hope you'll consider that, it would be a shame not too abd for us to lose you.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2016, 10:09:54 pm »
All the best Geoff, and Johnno too - 2 great rawkites

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 06:53:37 pm »
All the best Geoff, and Johnno too - 2 great rawkites
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2016, 10:05:30 am »
Shame to hear that Mutton, we try to moderate in line with RAWK's policy on abuse, name calling and unreasoned argument as opposed to proper debate. However as soon as we start to pick apart a thread, there will always be 'sides' that aren't happy.

However I, for one, hope you remain elsewhere on the site and but if not, all the best mate.
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2016, 12:40:14 pm »
I find it remarkable that Geoff could cry foul about personal attacks when he was at fault for derailing and causing innumerable threads in the main forum to be locked with childish, petty insults and personal vendettas against certain posters.


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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2016, 07:34:38 pm »
A real shame that you won't be posting her anymore Phil - I really hope the others and yourself who've left do come back, and soon. RAWK will be poorer for it, if not.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2016, 07:56:17 pm »
I find it remarkable that Geoff could cry foul about personal attacks when he was at fault for derailing and causing innumerable threads in the main forum to be locked with childish, petty insults and personal vendettas against certain posters.



Maybe he just thought you, and many others like you, lurking in the shadows offering faux opinion style posts - were a bellends?.... Mr Nearly 3 tonne of fuck all posts in over 3 years, kinda guy that you are, perhaps.........?


Take it as a personal attack, am not arsed, but he(Geoff) has added to this forum and in over 3 years - what have you, like so many others like you, have added to this forum?

I'd take a Geoff everyday of the week.


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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2016, 08:02:08 pm »
Phil!... fuckin Phil!




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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2016, 08:07:31 pm »
big shame that mate, always enjoyed your posts i feel very simalar to you, corbyn supporters are the anti christ on here, its looked like the thatcherite tabloids at times, this on a LIVERPOOL fans site.
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2016, 08:51:22 pm »
I find it remarkable that Geoff could cry foul about personal attacks when he was at fault for derailing and causing innumerable threads in the main forum to be locked with childish, petty insults and personal vendettas against certain posters.


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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2016, 09:01:18 pm »
Sad to hear this Geoff,  you are one of the good guys,  and probably do more good in your life than many of the keyboard warriors on here ever will.

As for mods allowing some posters to do as they  wish and others being clamped down on for offering a contrary opinion to their own personal opinion,  i think thats one of the major failings of the site. Mods shoukd not be allowed to be gamekeepers and poachers.  But that's just what I  think.

I  suggest you stick to the football threads, as i do  (when sober) 😉
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2016, 10:49:41 am »
Mods shoukd not be allowed to be gamekeepers and poachers.  But that's just what I  think.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2016, 10:59:01 am »
I struggle to see anything in this other than a shit source being used unknowingly and it being pointed out.
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2016, 06:49:01 pm »
Sad to hear this Geoff,  you are one of the good guys,  and probably do more good in your life than many of the keyboard warriors on here ever will.

As for mods allowing some posters to do as they  wish and others being clamped down on for offering a contrary opinion to their own personal opinion,  i think thats one of the major failings of the site. Mods shoukd not be allowed to be gamekeepers and poachers.  But that's just what I  think.

I  suggest you stick to the football threads, as i do  (when sober) 😉
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #21 on: October 2, 2016, 05:58:32 pm »
Mods shoukd not be allowed to be gamekeepers and poachers.  But that's just what I  think.

So what's your suggestion? Mods shouldn't allowed to post, just spend all their time looking for breaches and responding to reported posts? Who in their right mind would spend their time doing that on a site of this size?

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #22 on: October 2, 2016, 10:12:30 pm »
So what's your suggestion? Mods shouldn't allowed to post, just spend all their time looking for breaches and responding to reported posts? Who in their right mind would spend their time doing that on a site of this size?
Mods should lead by example (accepting they are human and not infallible of course). Certainly there were examples of some non-mods being treated with a lot more leniency because they were attacking those who didn't share the mods viewpoint.

But the threads ended up closed, did inconsistent modding contribute to that? Who knows, I have my opinion but hindsight is wonderful.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #23 on: October 2, 2016, 10:16:29 pm »
So what's your suggestion? Mods shouldn't allowed to post, just spend all their time looking for breaches and responding to reported posts? Who in their right mind would spend their time doing that on a site of this size?

My suggestion,  if anyone actually cares: they shouldn't post their opinions in threads they are modding.

But as someone else hinted,  what would be the attraction of being a mod if that was the case.
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #24 on: October 2, 2016, 10:19:51 pm »
My suggestion,  if anyone actually cares: they shouldn't post their opinions in threads they are modding.

But as someone else hinted,  what would be the attraction of being a mod if that was the case.
I think there is also the issue that the best mods do get involved in threads.  They understand the nuances, the funnies from the malicious.

I think the thread itself was unmanageable.  Why? Because it's not a RAWK conflict, it's a conflict within the Labour Party itself.  RAWK mirrored this perfectly.  Although, may I say, the modding made it far more palatable than most internet based discussions on the issue.
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #25 on: October 2, 2016, 10:38:07 pm »
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« Reply #26 on: October 2, 2016, 10:42:58 pm »
Mods should lead by example (accepting they are human and not infallible of course). Certainly there were examples of some non-mods being treated with a lot more leniency because they were attacking those who didn't share the mods viewpoint.

But the threads ended up closed, did inconsistent modding contribute to that? Who knows, I have my opinion but hindsight is wonderful.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #27 on: October 2, 2016, 11:17:15 pm »
How do you know how anyone has been treated?
Observation. I'm not talking about warnings, etc I can't know about that.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #28 on: October 2, 2016, 11:28:35 pm »
So what's your suggestion? Mods shouldn't allowed to post, just spend all their time looking for breaches and responding to reported posts? Who in their right mind would spend their time doing that on a site of this size?

Posting is one thing; discussing another thing and moderating another issue. the mods are fine, but i would bet - if i had any money left - that the mods also knows between themselves when lines are crossed and the roles are mixeed. solution is fairly easy though..
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #29 on: October 4, 2016, 10:32:50 am »
Moderating is fucking boring on any scale, but on here it could be a full time soul destroying job for several people. If we don't get involved or allowed to have opinions then there's nothing in it for us.

We do fuck up sometimes but our record is pretty good overall.

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« Reply #30 on: October 4, 2016, 10:40:43 am »
A RAWK record - now there's an idea...... Alan on recorder, Pansy on synth, The girls as backing singers, the jock lads on bagpipes, with Hall on the glockenspiel, C as the lead singer doing his Marc Almond/Mark E Smith, lear stylie. Graeme could be the sound man, as you never see or hear of sound men either.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #31 on: October 4, 2016, 10:49:10 am »
Have to be an EP with Alan's prog rock recorder solo.

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« Reply #32 on: October 4, 2016, 10:52:36 am »
Yes
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #33 on: October 4, 2016, 11:20:45 am »
John Hall can get his organ out.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #34 on: October 4, 2016, 01:35:33 pm »
John Hall can get his organ out.
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #35 on: October 4, 2016, 04:51:32 pm »
Aye, and Chopper can stand in the corner shaking his maracas.   
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #36 on: October 4, 2016, 08:20:28 pm »
I asked Albie to ban me for a month...
Drama queen.

Proving in his first sentence that Geoff was a grown adult with the self-possession of a toddler throwing a tantrum.

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #37 on: October 4, 2016, 08:25:55 pm »
Fancy a blow of my trombone, paul?
Sounds fabulous.  Get yourself round here at 7pm Saturday and I'll give it a go   :)

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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #38 on: October 4, 2016, 09:43:54 pm »
Drama queen.

Proving in his first sentence that Geoff was a grown adult with the self-possession of a toddler throwing a tantrum.
He's not posting anymore no need to be so harsh, the more I found out about Phil in real life the more I realised he was a decent fella.
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Re: Why i will no longer be posting anything in Rawk
« Reply #39 on: October 4, 2016, 09:58:39 pm »
Soz, forgot The 92A. You can play the rasp - a very underrated and underused musical accompaniment.


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