Author Topic: Liverpool v Spurs - League Cup 4th Round. (Read 27624 times)

scalatore · « **Reply #40 on:** October 23, 2016, 07:44:12 pm »

I think we're going to take this more seriously than them. Should see a strong 11 starting, but even if not, the good thing is that our squad is so strong that even a rotated side looks great right now.

Have to admit that although I love this competition, my eyes are firmly on the league right now. Still would be delighted to see us win this trophy though.

Sarge · « **Reply #41 on:** October 23, 2016, 07:47:04 pm »

Quote from: jimbo196843 on October 23, 2016, 07:31:43 pm

im over it mate, just admit you're wrong 😆😆

OFFS in the last 5 games they have both played look at the OP.

Christ, Mountains and Molehills.

Sarge · « **Reply #42 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:04:35 pm »

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/klopp-set-ring-liverpool-changes-12066526#ICID=sharebar_twitter

Klopp set to ring Liverpool changes for Tottenham EFL Cup tie as Ings trains with first team

RedSince86 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:09:59 pm »

Yeah i'm of the same opinion Spurs will play a weakened side,they will want to get back to winning ways in the league and have a vital game after the weekend in the CL.

I would like to see Grujic play in this game,get some minutes under his belt.

Nick110581 · « **Reply #44 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:11:35 pm »

We can still play a strong side and rest Mane, Phil and Firmino.

Henderson suspended and would rest Clyne and Milner.

Others need game time.

bodhisattva · « **Reply #45 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:12:33 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on October 23, 2016, 05:17:36 pm

Ings and Alexander Arnold did not play today so.......

Stewart either, he might start with Lucas playing CB

richiedouglas · « **Reply #46 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:32:09 pm »

Because a lot of the better teams are out or have drawn each other, theres every chance we can go far again. For that reason id rather we go all out to win this. First team bar a few of the guys who put the mileage in (milner, lallana, firminho).

JoeCole · « **Reply #47 on:** October 23, 2016, 09:02:40 pm »

Want to see Sturridge and Origi start together again and unleash another Southampton performance, Ings off the bench

Mignolet, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner, Can, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Mane, Sturridge, Origi

Mister Flip Flop · « **Reply #48 on:** October 23, 2016, 09:13:02 pm »

Ings to start and score a couple. Think the lad deserves a fair crack at it for us.

killer-heels · « **Reply #49 on:** October 23, 2016, 09:20:41 pm »

Quote from: JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! on October 23, 2016, 09:02:40 pm

Want to see Sturridge and Origi start together again and unleash another Southampton performance, Ings off the bench

Mignolet, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner, Can, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Mane, Sturridge, Origi

Will be surprised if we go that strong. One of Matip or Lovren will sit out, as will Milner and Mane.

I think it will be Mignolet, Clyne, Klavan, Matip/Lovren, Moreno, Wijnaldum, Can, Stewart/Grujic, Origi, Sturridge and Lallana.

peachybum · « **Reply #50 on:** October 23, 2016, 09:40:27 pm »

I expect to see Mignolet, Lucas, Klavan, Moreno, Origi and Sturridge definitely come in.

So who starts at right back, Clyne or TAA? Who's the third forward, Ings or one of our usual front three? And how strong do we go in midfield? Stewart, Grujic and Ejaria will be in the squad but how many of them start.

stockdam · « **Reply #51 on:** October 23, 2016, 09:42:14 pm »

I think Klopp will give some time to some of the players who have had few chances in the league. Hopefully they can win the game for us but if not then I won't be too concerned as our main focus will be on the league.

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #52 on:** October 23, 2016, 09:48:54 pm »

Quote from: peachybum on October 23, 2016, 09:40:27 pm

I expect to see Mignolet, Lucas, Klavan, Moreno, Origi and Sturridge definitely come in.

So who starts at right back, Clyne or TAA? Who's the third forward, Ings or one of our usual front three? And how strong do we go in midfield? Stewart, Grujic and Ejaria will be in the squad but how many of them start.

I'd be surprised if Klopp rotates the goalkeeper, particulary as Karius is still feeling his way. Spurs may give him the opportunity to make some actual saves, rather than deal with random crosses.

noshade · « **Reply #53 on:** October 23, 2016, 10:11:22 pm »

Quote from: Mister men on October 23, 2016, 09:13:02 pm

Ings to start and score a couple. Think the lad deserves a fair crack at it for us.

Got to agree on this one. He's been doing quite well in the reserves, scoring a hat-trick beginning of Oct. The lad at least deserves to prove his worth. Our attack trio needs some rest and be ready for Palace. Dings with either Studge or Origi up front against Spurs for me.

Number 7 · « **Reply #54 on:** October 23, 2016, 10:49:50 pm »

Pochettino has already hinted at a weaker team around a week ago when he was talking about upcoming games.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #55 on:** October 23, 2016, 10:51:12 pm »

Full speed ahead, blow them out and if players need a rest they can get it on 60

Fluke · « **Reply #56 on:** October 23, 2016, 11:35:51 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on October 23, 2016, 07:29:04 pm

Oh jesus get over it will you. Last 5 each.

I was confused too, fwiw.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #57 on:** October 23, 2016, 11:44:27 pm »

Quote from: JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! on October 23, 2016, 09:02:40 pm

Want to see Sturridge and Origi start together again and unleash another Southampton performance, Ings off the bench

Mignolet, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner, Can, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Mane, Sturridge, Origi

Yeah that's not going to happen. We're not playing all of them. Based on what Klopp was saying and what the Echo is reporting, they'll be at least five changes.

rickardinho1 · « **Reply #58 on:** October 24, 2016, 12:03:18 am »

Does rotating the squad even weaken it that much?

The team that started vs West Brom:

Karius
Clyne Matip Lovren Milner
Henderson
Lallana Can
Mané Coutinho
Firmino

8 changes...

Karius > Mignolet
Clyne > Trent AA
Lovren/Matip > Klavan
Milner > Moreno
Henderson (susp.) > Lucas
Lallana > Wijnaldum
Can > Grujic
Firmino > Sturridge

... and still a very strong team:

Mignolet
Trent AA Lovren Klavan Moreno
Lucas
Grujic Wijnaldum
Mané Coutinho
Sturridge

Perhaps a little bit light at the back, but probably stronger than whatever Spurs could rotate to.

I don't think Grujic will start though; more likely that Lallana or Can do. Ditto for Trent AA; but 6-7 changes is easily doable.

farawayred · « **Reply #59 on:** October 24, 2016, 12:10:39 am »

^^^ When was the last time we could say that 6-7 changes don't weaken the squad?!

Good times!

bodhisattva · « **Reply #60 on:** October 24, 2016, 01:32:23 am »

Team I'd pick...

......................Mignolet...........................

TAA........Lucas............Klavan.........Moreno

......................Stewart............................

..............Can................Wijnaldum...........

.....Lallana.......Sturridge...........Origi........

That's a completely new back 6 so that might be a risk, maybe you could keep the CBs the same but having Lucas next to TAA I think would help him
think Stewart might start this one, and Can and Wijnaldum need to get some match sharpness. You could easily start Ings for this one too think he's
going to be an important sub for Klopp moving forward.

Suareznumber7 · « **Reply #61 on:** October 24, 2016, 02:26:38 am »

Have a feeling Klopp will make 1 or 2 changes but will keep mostly the same team as yesterday. Can definitely see Ings getting some time

jooneyisdagod · « **Reply #62 on:** October 24, 2016, 02:51:16 am »

Think we'll see some changes for this one. I have a feeling we'll see the likes of Klavan feature along with Ings (possibly on the bench/from the right) and maybe Origi and Sturridge as well. Good chance to give these guys a game as Spurs will also have to rest some players.

Americaner... · « **Reply #63 on:** October 24, 2016, 03:46:25 am »

I've always been curious if the managers contact each other and strike up some sort of gentleman's agreement before these kind of matches as to how many starters they'll be benching.

riismeister · « **Reply #64 on:** October 24, 2016, 03:57:23 am »

GK
I think this one is up in air. Karius has played 5 in a row now, including our previous cup game, after Mignolet played our first 6 in a row while Karius was injured. If Karius plays this one I think that's a pretty firm statement that he's our #1 now. If Mignolet plays it could be he will get his games mostly in the cups or that we'll rotate a little bit in goal this season. Personally I think the former is more likely.

DEFENSE
The Derby game saw Moreno and Klavan starting in place of Milner and Lovren. I'm guessing we'll see two changes from our preferred back 4 in this one too. Moreno will likely get a start and I think either of Klavan/Lucas could get a chance at center back. If I had to guess I'd say Lovren is the one to miss out out of him and Matip.

MIDFIELD
Henderson has started both our cup games so far, but is unavailable due to suspension. The other midfield roles were filled by Can/Lallana vs Burton and Lucas/Grujic vs Derby. I think we'll go strong here and start with two out of Can/Lallana/Gini and one out of Grujic/Lucas/Stewart. My guess would be Can/Gini/Stewart.

ATTACK
Both Firmino and Origi have started our first two cup games, and Origi is in need of playing time. So is Sturridge, and if both start Klopp might choose Coutinho ahead of Firmino to play alongside them as he's more of a creator and more often comes deep to pick up the ball in midfield areas. If only one out of Sturridge/Origi starts Firmino is likely the one to take the last spot in the starting 11 though. He's started all our games bar Chelsea so far this season, and it's possible Klopp see him as a vital part of our attacking play. I might go with Coutinho/Sturridge/Firmino and let Origi get 30-35 minutes off the bench.

In conlcusion I'd take a guess at something like this

.......................Karius............................

....Clyne.....Matip.....Klavan.....Moreno....

......................Stewart..........................

.................Gini..........Can.....................

......Firmino.....Sturridge.....Coutinho......

Number 7 · « **Reply #65 on:** October 24, 2016, 06:39:11 am »

Don't see any reason why Lucas wouldn't start this.

vinothmct · « **Reply #66 on:** October 24, 2016, 06:49:40 am »

Quote from: richiedouglas on October 23, 2016, 08:32:09 pm

Because a lot of the better teams are out or have drawn each other, theres every chance we can go far again. For that reason id rather we go all out to win this. First team bar a few of the guys who put the mileage in (milner, lallana, firminho).

Milner had the International Break to recover from. I'd rest the Brazilian Boys, Mane and Clyne. Henderson suspended

RogerTheRed · « **Reply #67 on:** October 24, 2016, 08:51:00 am »

Come on Redmen!!
I suspect that the main learning from this match will be that the depth of our squad is much stronger that Spurs. Am hoping to see a great result to demonstrate this. Those missing from Prenton Park plus the bench against WBA seem to be the starting line up. Mignolet, AA, Klavan, Lucas, Moreno, Ejaria, Grujic, Wijnaldum, Sturridge, Origi, Ings is my guess.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #68 on:** October 24, 2016, 09:39:55 am »

I'm looking forward to seeing young Grujic play.

He has the physical attributes of Can, a great technique too... but hopefully he has more of an eye for goal...

Front three of Divock, Dings and Humungous D for me

mkingdon · « **Reply #69 on:** October 24, 2016, 09:40:16 am »

I think we'll see a good few changes, not so much to rest players, but more to give others a chance to play.

Karius should play as he needs game time. No benefit in dropping him out for this....

Karius

TAA Klavan Lucas Moreno

Can

Grujic Lallana

Mane Ings Firmino

Putting that team together made me think....if Mane is unable to play who do we have to play that role? Ojo maybe when fit?? Next window maybe we need a Mane and Lallana back up?

Kovai Red · « **Reply #70 on:** October 24, 2016, 09:55:28 am »

Would like to see Ings, Origi and Sturridge to start up front with Can, Lucas and Gini covering the midfield and Migs in goal. Klavan might be partnered with anyone of Matip and Lovren and will be substituted with the other if we have a comfortable lead. I think Clyne might start and will be substituted around the hour mark by Alexander Arnold with Moreno starting at LB.

LallanaInPyjamas · « **Reply #71 on:** October 24, 2016, 10:00:31 am »

Really want to beat these but Palace away four days later makes a few changes necessary IMO.

With Henderson out, I'd be dropping Can into the "number six" role to see if he's up to speed in that role. I'm not too keen on the idea of Lucas there against Spurs as I think we need mobility against Spurs' high press.

As much as the thought of watching Moreno play 90 minutes pains me, I'd be resting Milner as I see him crucial to our title hopes now and I think he's put in a tremendous amount of effort the last couple of games.

Not sure I'd be starting Firmino or Coutinho either given their recent travels. We can't afford to burn them out but they could be big from the bench.

And does Mignolet now become our cup goalkeeper? I'm not sure I see the point; sink or swim, we need to see how Karius fares against high-class opposition.

Karius

Clyne Matip Lovren Moreno

Can

Lallana Wijnaldum

Mane Sturridge Origi

Subs: Mignolet, Lucas, TAA, Grujic, Coutinho, Firmino, Ings

ZeusMetallica · « **Reply #72 on:** October 24, 2016, 10:00:36 am »

We have to get the balance right in this one. Big guns are facing each other or are already out. There's a trophy at the end of this tunnel.

MerseysideBrum · « **Reply #73 on:** October 24, 2016, 11:26:30 am »

Quote from: mkingdon on October 24, 2016, 09:40:16 am

Putting that team together made me think....if Mane is unable to play who do we have to play that role? Ojo maybe when fit?? Next window maybe we need a Mane and Lallana back up?

Already bricking it for when ACON starts and he misses the United and Chelsea games.

Felch Aid · « **Reply #74 on:** October 24, 2016, 12:14:35 pm »

Think Spuds will make wholesale changes aa it seems they've looked jaded.

Can see Mane, Phil, Bob, Matip and Milner dropping to the bench.

Adam_LFC · « **Reply #75 on:** October 24, 2016, 12:14:36 pm »

We should take it seriously but I'd also like to see Grujic and Origi get game time.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #76 on:** October 24, 2016, 01:02:11 pm »

Klopp's confirmed Mignolet will start and there will be other changes.

Ciara (with a capital "C") · « **Reply #77 on:** October 24, 2016, 01:04:33 pm »

Sturridge needs a goal and Origi desperately needs minutes. Ideally you'd like to see something of Ings, but that will probably be off the bench.

Would he start both Sturridge and Origi?

Karius / Clyne / Matip / Lovren / Moreno / Can / Wjinaldum / Lallana / Coutinho / Sturridge / Origi would probably be my team.

We have no midweek games until the next round of this competition, which I think is the last week in November/start of December, so unless players are showing signs of fatigue, we should go strong.

I'd rest Milner because of how important he is in that position, and I'd sit out Firmino and Mane ahead of Palace at the weekend, because Sturridge and Origi need goals/minutes.

I don't understand why there has to be lots of changes, unless it's to give others minutes.

kaesarsosei · « **Reply #78 on:** October 24, 2016, 01:36:59 pm »

Mignolet

AA Matip Lovren Moreno

Elijaria Can Wijnaldum

Sturridge Origi Ings

Thats how I would line up. I don't think CBs need rested and the more games they play the better. Wijnaldum is just back from injury and needs minutes. Can & Origi need as many minutes as they can get, both of them look incredibly off the pace although Can improved during the West Brom game. Both fullbacks need a rest IMO, Clyne's form is starting to dip slightly and Milner looks to be carrying a few niggles and always seems to be in the wars.

I think this team carries a good mix of people who would contending for first team, youngsters (Arnold, Elajaria), and players who need to get involved at some stage (Mignolet, Ings, Moreno).

Anfield89 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 24, 2016, 01:51:49 pm »

Mignolet starts. Would expect 3 or 4 more changes.