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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2017, 08:39:12 pm »

How about a campaign to get them banned from all grounds?

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2017, 08:41:08 pm »
Football Writers Association can stop meddling in things their simple gossip hungry minds cannot understand and go back to choosing Player of the Year.

Especially when they have the male Rita Skeeter as Chairman.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2017, 08:50:20 pm »
What a surprise that this happens now Barclay is chairman of the FWA.

Blanket ban anyone in the FWA that supports such an action. I'm not arsed anymore, there's way too many snivelling little gobshites knocking about who are way to apologetic towards gutter journalism.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2017, 08:51:45 pm »
The Football Writers' Association is concerned by the recent bans imposed on The Sun by Liverpool FC and Everton FC.

While the FWA understands the upset caused by the presence and views of columnist Kelvin MacKenzie, the organisation feels that its members, the football journalists, are being unfairly punished for actions which have nothing to do with them.

The FWA has always believed in the fundamental principle that all of its members have a right to carry out their jobs and should not be banned because of the actions of others.

Following discussions at National Committee level, we believe the clubs should reconsider these bans and work with the FWA and Premier League to resolve the situation.


http://footballwriters.co.uk/news/the-sun-everton-and-liverpool/?E



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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2017, 09:33:48 pm »
Harsh on Tranmere that, they've banned the scum too.


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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2017, 09:44:29 pm »
Sure where was this tool when Ferguson banned the BBC from OT?

Writing his fucking biography.
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2017, 10:03:08 pm »
More fool anyone that wants to make an enemy of us.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2017, 10:43:45 pm »
As a previous post says, ban any prick who supports this statement

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2017, 10:49:26 pm »
Ban em from the League, possible review in 27 years?
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2017, 10:51:10 pm »
This might get a mention on that Sunday supplement show.
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #52 on: April 28, 2017, 10:55:48 pm »
Ban the whole fucking lot of parasites.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #53 on: April 28, 2017, 10:58:12 pm »
The FWA has always believed in the fundamental principle that all of its members have a right to carry out their jobs and should not be banned because of the actions of others.

Propagating bullshit is not a job. The freedom of the press is a noble cause and one which we'd all fight for. Abusing that right isn't. How this lot think they have a leg to stand on is utterly beyond me.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #54 on: April 28, 2017, 11:03:20 pm »
I can bet that none of the members actually voted for this motion. I expect to hear some blowback from other journalists about this soon.


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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #55 on: April 28, 2017, 11:09:33 pm »
A disgraceful journalist is Patrick Barclay. It's obvious he has nothing but contempt for Liverpudlians.

Horrible man with not an ounce of moral fibre.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2017, 11:35:23 pm »
Sure where was this tool when Ferguson banned the BBC from OT?



And I believe Ferguson not talking to the BBC was specifically against Premier League rules (because BBC were rights holders), whereas there's no rule against Liverpool banning the S*n.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2017, 11:36:53 pm »
Barclay is a massive gaping arsehole

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2017, 11:51:25 pm »
I raised your point to Ollie Holt who's been attacking the ban of the s*n, asking where they were over Ferguson/BBC, his only response was "good question"
Where's his 'good answer?'
He had plenty to say on Liverpool earlier in the day, and goes quiet when it suits him.
He's a creep of a man.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2017, 12:15:09 am »
I'm from the south and unfortunately I can't dispute this.
I'm so glad I don't live there anymore. Seeing that thing every day was making me physically and mentally ill, and having to explain to supposed Liverpool supporters why they shouldn't be near it let alone fucking reading it was literally doing my head in. And they go to more games than I can afford, obviously nothing fucking affects them.

As for the FWA, fuck off and write your great English novel, you failed twats. Too fat for football, too thick for English, their only gift is ingratiation.

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Rats are actually quite clean animals, so I was right not to use that metaphor.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2017, 12:23:52 am »
You don't want to be "banned" from Anfield? How about you don't write for that newspaper, or indeed any of Murdoch's publications?

You're a serious sports journalist? You're good at your job? You can actually research, think and write? Then go and work for a decent publication. If you're not good enough to do that, fuck off.

We don't need to read your nonsense, and you have no "right" to walk into our ground for free. I'll uphold your right to free speech, free thought, free expression. That doesn't mean free entry and a welcome to represent a newspaper and a group that has demonstrated many times its utter disregard for truth and decency, and its consistently divisive and destructive level of engagement with important matters.
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2017, 12:40:45 am »
Personally, I'd let them in.

....on one condition.

Any reporter on OUR PREMISES has to wear a big fuck off badge stating which publication they are reporting for.




Lets see how long it takes you to get a police escort on and off the premises, before the cheeky twats get spat all over and kicked up and down the street.
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2017, 01:42:33 am »
'The Football Writers' Association is concerned by the recent bans imposed on The Sun by Liverpool FC and Everton FC.

While the FWA understands the upset caused by the presence and views of columnist Kelvin MacKenzie, the organisation feels that its members, the football journalists, are being unfairly punished for actions which have nothing to do with them.

The FWA has always believed in the fundamental principle that all of its members have a right to carry out their jobs and should not be banned because of the actions of others.

Following discussions at National Committee level, we believe the clubs should reconsider these bans and work with the FWA and Premier League to resolve the situation.'


“We have complete and utter sympathy with the feelings of anyone connected with Hillsborough.

“I was at Hillsborough and I am very aware of the views of our members of what happened after.

“We do not condone the kind of journalism that has upset people repeatedly, most recently with the Ross Barkley case - which was almost a perfect example of the type of journalism not to dirty your hands with - but we can’t be responsible for the ethics of our employers.”


“We just wanted to show a little bit of support for people who simply want to report on football and give their families some of the proceeds of that.”

Mr Barclay said he believed there were around 24 committee members who decided to make the approach - with two of those currently employed by The S*n.

He said he would be more than happy to conduct an overall vote of all members - thought to be around 340 - to see if the decision would be supported.


1. It isn't a freedom of speech question, S*n journalists can still report on LFC matches and news through TV coverage/sources etc.
2. LFC is 1/20 of the PL and 1/92 of the PL and EFL. Even if they had no sources on LFC there is plenty of other football coverage they can fill their rag with.
3. LFC are a private limited company, they have no duty to be 'held accountable' by anyone other than their shareholders and of course, as a football club, their supporters and the wider community in which they operate and abide by the rules of the PL, FA and relevant legislation.
4. If the FWA is so concerned about their members being affected by the actions of others, have they made representations to the S*n about how their lies affect their members and asked them to think about fact checking their output?
5. The freedom of the press comes with responsibility, something many journalists these days seemingly have no idea about, rather they think they can write whatever they like with no responsibility for facts and accuracy and then moan about any comeback as curtailment of their freedom. OK, report what you want, but be aware that private individuals and private companies have no requirement to engage with you, it is not an inalienable right.
6. If you don't want to be held responsible for tarnished by the ethics of your employer and disagree with their ethics, work somewhere else.
7. Not including the S*n journalists, 6% of members of the association came forward and made 'the approach', committee members or not (and it does not say how many committee members there are) perhaps the Chair of the organisation should have polled his members before making it public.
8. There are a group of people who were unfairly punished for actions of others, the families and survivors of Hillsborough, who were unfairly punished and continue to be punished by the actions of the SYP et al and the ensuing cover up enabled and abetted by the, specifically the S*n and journalists in the MSM. Where was the voice of the FWA then?
9. Paddy Barclay is a dickhead
10. The S*n can go fuck themselves.
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2017, 07:51:19 am »
Good old Barclay, he never gives up.

All this bitterness and hatred can't be good for his health. He should be enjoying the senior years of his life instead of stressing himself over a football club and city that will still be around long after he's gone.

How exactly will the conversation go anyway?

FWA: Please overturn the ban on the irrelevant shite rag of a newspaper.
Liverpool & Everton: No, fuck off.

That's pretty much it.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #64 on: April 29, 2017, 08:46:19 am »
but we can’t be responsible for the ethics of our employers.”

Actually, thats not how professional ethics works. Might I suggest Professional Ethics 101?

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2017, 09:20:20 am »
I know we've covered the baldy c*nt numerous times, but it's important to go over it again. Especially now that he holds the position that he's currently in.

I refer you once again to the bottom tweet. In relation to Liverpool supporters.


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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2017, 12:55:32 pm »
Fuck off! Our house, our rules! Don't think this is going to make it far, unless they get the Premier League/FA involved, the absolute c*nts!

Those "Football Writers" need a good smack against the head. Things like these should make them sit up and evaluate who they serve and also make them think about those times they could have written/protested about the real issue, but decided not to or just chose to close their eyes.
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In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #67 on: April 29, 2017, 01:03:09 pm »
No doubt the next thing they'll do is go running to the FA and Premier league for support.
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #68 on: April 29, 2017, 02:13:25 pm »
No doubt the next thing they'll do is go running to the FA and Premier league for support.
Can't believe the nerve of this slimy puddle of piss.
Using their employees as an excuse! It's like me using those who depend on me as a shield to escape the consequences of my actions.
There is no limit to the depths they will go to in order to continue making a profit and to attempt to sweep this under the rug.
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"Some listen to understand. Others listen to respond."
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in revealing his own mind."
In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #69 on: April 29, 2017, 02:43:20 pm »
You'd think that this muppet would have learned not to try and take on the city of Liverpool.

There will be only one winner Mr Barclay. Now please do fuck off, we've got champions league football to take from your beloved Man Utd :wave

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #70 on: April 29, 2017, 05:16:42 pm »
I know we've covered the baldy c*nt numerous times, but it's important to go over it again. Especially now that he holds the position that he's currently in.

I refer you once again to the bottom tweet. In relation to Liverpool supporters.



Somebody should send these tweets and all the others to the FWA, ask them if they think its OK that their chairman holds such contempt for scousers
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2017, 05:56:59 pm »
Ban em from the League, possible review in 27 years?

And no apology either.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2017, 06:54:28 pm »

You don't want to be "banned" from Anfield? How about you don't write for that newspaper, or indeed any of Murdoch's publications?

You're a serious sports journalist? You're good at your job? You can actually research, think and write? Then go and work for a decent publication. If you're not good enough to do that, fuck off.
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This, a million times over.

We can all choose who we work for, this isn't N. Korea. If you work for the Sun, you have zero credibility as a human being.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #73 on: April 29, 2017, 07:12:29 pm »
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The Sun journalists will be allowed into Liverpool and Everton matches in Europe next season

Uefa will allow football writers from The Sun to attend matches in Europe next season


Journalists from The Sun will be allowed to attend European games at Liverpool and Everton next season despite their ban from Anfield and Goodison Park.

Uefa are responsible for matchday accreditation for the media for both the Champions League and the Europa League, and The Independent has learned that they will approve any accreditation requests from writers at The Sun for matches.

Liverpool banned journalists from The Sun earlier this season after holding talks with the Hillsborough Family Support Group, following their coverage of the Hillsborough disaster in which 96 people died.

The Sun ran a story on the Hillsborough disaster on 19 April 1989, four days after 96 people were unlawfully killed during a fan crush at Sheffield Wednesday’s Hillsborough Stadium ahead of an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest, with the headline ‘“The Truth”, in which it carried accusations from an anonymous South Yorkshire policeman that Liverpool supporters had "picked pockets of victims", "urinated on brave cops" and that some beat up a policeman giving the "kiss of life".

Everton followed suit earlier this month and banned journalists from The Sun following a controversial article by their columnist, Kelvin McKenzie. McKenzie was The Sun’s editor when the Hillsborough story was published in 1989, and while he has apologised for the false accusations that were published, he remains a hated figure in Merseyside.

McKenzie called Everton midfielder Ross Barkley a “gorilla”, unaware that his grandfather is from Nigeria, and the backlash to the piece – which also attacked the people of Liverpool  in general – led to Everton implementing a ban on the newspaper.

Both Chester and Tranmere Rovers have also banned writers from The Sun.

However, due to the fact that Uefa decide matchday accreditations for both the Champions League and Europa League, football writers from The Sun will be allowed to attended matches next season, with both clubs currently on course to qualify for continental competition.

The news will anger both Liverpool and Everton fans who applauded the ban when it was implemented, but Uefa believe it would be unfair to ban journalists from one publication.

The Football Writers’ Association has also contacted both clubs to urge them to reconsider their bans, which sees the sport writers “unfairly punished” for something that was written by a news journalist.

“The Football Writers’ Association is concerned by the recent bans imposed on The Sun by Liverpool FC and Everton FC.

“While the FWA understands the upset caused by the presence and views of columnist Kelvin MacKenzie, the organisation feels that its members, the football journalists, are being unfairly punished for actions which have nothing to do with them.

“The FWA has always believed in the fundamental principle that all of its members have a right to carry out their jobs and should not be banned because of the actions of others.

“Following discussions at National Committee level, we believe the clubs should reconsider these bans and work with the FWA and Premier League to resolve the situation.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/the-sun-liverpool-ban-everton-banned-allowed-in-next-season-european-matches-a7709151.html

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #74 on: April 30, 2017, 10:45:55 am »

Does that mean we have to let them in though?

Just because they have accreditation from someone else, it is still LFC's private property and they should be allowed to refuse entry to whomever they wish.

To me, it's the equivalent of some scrote walking up to your house with a letter from his Mum saying that he has the right to go anywhere, then demanding to be let in to rummage through your wife's knicker-drawer.

You have every right to tell him to fuck off.

UEFA don't own our ground and cannot decide who gets to walk through the door.

Just because they give them a little badge, that does not trump our right to ban them.

The club should use Health and Safety against them - we cannot guarantee your safety, so you are banned for your own good.

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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #75 on: April 30, 2017, 11:33:08 am »
They say;

“The FWA has always believed in the fundamental principle that all of its members have a right to carry out their jobs and should not be banned because of the actions of others."

The members who write for that rag are banned because of the actions of not only a writer but the Editor who allowed that shocking piece about Barkley and Liverpool people to be published.

It's the members own boss who has caused them to be banned and the FWA should concentrate its efforts on the owner and management of the rag to stop such cretinous stories appearing.

In addition, I only saw Brian Reade and David Conn write anything about our fight for justice over 27 years and now they moan when just one newspaper is barred. A gang of puppets in truth.
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #76 on: April 30, 2017, 11:50:43 am »
Patrick Barclay is an arsehole, I'd be surprised if either of the two clubs lift the ban just coz this idiot thinks it should be
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #77 on: April 30, 2017, 11:56:44 am »
Does that mean we have to let them in though?

Just because they have accreditation from someone else, it is still LFC's private property and they should be allowed to refuse entry to whomever they wish.

To me, it's the equivalent of some scrote walking up to your house with a letter from his Mum saying that he has the right to go anywhere, then demanding to be let in to rummage through your wife's knicker-drawer.

You have every right to tell him to fuck off.

UEFA don't own our ground and cannot decide who gets to walk through the door.

Just because they give them a little badge, that does not trump our right to ban them.

The club should use Health and Safety against them - we cannot guarantee your safety, so you are banned for your own good.

Fuck UEFA and fuck the scum.
Unfortunately, It doesn't quite work like that.

To play in a UEFA competition, you have to abide by their rules. What that means is, you basically have to hand over your stadium, to them, for the duration of the time they are here.  Usually about 48 hours.

You'll notice that when we host a European game, all of LFC's sponsorship is covered up, and the only sponsorship and branding is either UEFA stuff, or UEFA's partner sponsors, etc.

In essence, UEFA own our ground, for that period of time, so they dictate to us, what will and will not be done.




Note:  If you know which journalists are from that publication, just refuse to interact with them, and totally ignore any questions they ask. NEXT QUESTION PLEASE!
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2017, 12:37:56 pm »
They should concentrate on throwing out lying trouble makers from their 'profession' rather than defending them.
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Re: Football Writer's Association looking to get The S*n ban overturned
« Reply #79 on: April 30, 2017, 01:37:47 pm »
They can write whatever they want (as everyone clearly knows) but they shouldn't be able to go wherever they want.
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