Topic: Sergio Ramos

[thegoodfella]

bit of a shithouse boot on messi to be fair! was that 2 reds in his last 2 games?

On the bright side, he can have a Dec off and go on a vacation to some place warm.

[Mr Dilkington]

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What is that meant to be ?

["Nookie".]

I agree with downtown, Sagna and especially are better than Ramos. Lahm is one of the most underrated players on the planet.

[Ecuared]

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[rednich85]

Thanks for your amazing argument.

Do you guys even watch him?

I rarely ever see him beaten in 1 vs 1s, Bale beat him once last week, and he had a bad game vs WBA.

Also chips in with a lot of assists.

Who is better? Darby ?

Sagna is nowhere near the level of Ramos. He had a good first season at Arsenal but he has faded, just like Clichy.

He is a poorer version of Glen Johnson.

And yes, I've watched him play. A lot.

[Rohit]

Remember when we played madrid even babel raped him a few times for our 3 goal. Mind u ive seen babel do maicon too.

[Mr Dilkington]

So Ramos is better than Lahm by the virtue of one mistake against Spain, seeing Ramos getting skinned time after time by Ryan Babel should be enough to convince anyone this argument is pointless

[USC19Babel]

Carra's top 5

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

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[Popcorn]

Ta for posting that clip.

Torres' chip was delicious.

Lahm is top 5 right backs in the world.

Can't agree that Sagna is though an I rate Ramos higher than Sagna.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Remember when we played madrid even babel raped him a few times for our 3 goal. Mind u ive seen babel do maicon too.

You answered yourself there mate, I've seen Arbeloa mark Messi very well in 180s minutes, doesn't make the latter shit.

[rednich85]

Lahm is the German Lizarazu

[elsewhere]

gotta love him throwing puyol though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou8rpMz2TUA

[Mr Dilkington]

Ta for posting that clip.

Torres' chip was delicious.

Lahm is top 5 right backs in the world.

Can't agree that Sagna is though an I rate Ramos higher than Sagna.

For me, 1. D.Alves 2. Maicon 3. Lahm 4. Ramos 5. Johnson

[Ecuared]

Seriously, extra time in the semi's of the Euro's vs. a home game against Bilbao?

Anyways, I guess we could keep posting youtube videos all night and it wouldn't prove anything.

Maybe someone should start a pole?

Bit of a daft argument this anyways, it's all down to opinion....... but Lahm is better!

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Seriously, extra time in the semi's of the Euro's vs. a home game against Bilbao?

Anyways, I guess we could keep posting youtube videos all night and it wouldn't prove anything.

Maybe someone should start a pole?

Bit of a daft argument this anyways, it's all down to opinion....... but Lahm is better!

But then again Bilbao's defence is better than Turkey's defence IMO, and this was never in extra time.

My opinion is that Ramos is the third best right back in the world, Lahm is not far behind him

[Vidocq]

1. maicon 2. alves 3. lahm

anyway, i saw Ramos playing good only in european cup...so i dont think Ramos is even in top 5

[mbyx6cg2]

I don't watch every single Real game but I can safely say that Ramos is absolutely awful defensively. I think it was in the 6-2 game against Barca a few years ago, he was caught out so many times.

Plus he's a c*nt of the highest order. What a sore loser.

[Rohit]

You answered yourself there mate, I've seen Arbeloa mark Messi very well in 180s minutes, doesn't make the latter shit.

I know what your saying but sometime ramos isnt abit rash to decision making and makes a few mistakes. Mourinho has singled him out for being shit at start of the season by dressing him down public infront of him team mates.And he even tried to go for a rightback in the summer so that should say something.

[deadlybuzz]

Completely lost it tonight, probably also the fact the UEFA investigation lingering over him as well as the result.

Still, no excuses for that kick at Messi and shithouse behaviour at his NT teammates because of it.

[Ecuared]

I don`t care about him and Puyol and Xavi acting like a bunch of fannies, but the kick on Messi showed very little class, and just underlined how shit he was all game. It would have been more manly to put on a stoic face and not let Barca know that they had gotten to him.

[Huzey]

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I dont watch enough of either to really have an opinion on who's better, but surely you can't use a clip of Lahm making a mistake playing at left back to say he's not as good at right back?

[lafuriaroja]

Lahm is clearly a better RB than Ramos, but Ramos is still pretty good. His problem is more mental than anything- he knows how to play well and can read the game, but he is very hot-headed and hasn't learned when to push forward and when to stay back. In 2-3 years I think he'll be much better, if he drops the rashness and learns a bit of discipline. Arby should really be starting over him- think he is very very underrated and easily one of the top 10 all around RBs in world football

Bottom line- Grade A twat, but still a good RB.

Wouldn't have him over Glen, though.

[choi]

Wow, just seen it...what a c*nt.
Seems like theres a not a lot of love between the Spanish lot (Casillas/pique had a little spat, Ramos/all the barca spaniards with the pushing etc). You'd think they'd be good mates after what they've achieved together, and at least a bit of respect but no, none at all.

[Legendary]

Wow, just seen it...what a c*nt.
Seems like theres a not a lot of love between the Spanish lot (Casillas/pique had a little spat, Ramos/all the barca spaniards with the pushing etc). You'd think they'd be good mates after what they've achieved together, and at least a bit of respect but no, none at all.

I think Casillas was calming Pique down more than anything and telling him to stay out of it.


Oh, and Lahm is the best fullback in the world.

[rednich85]

Wow, just seen it...what a c*nt.
Seems like theres a not a lot of love between the Spanish lot (Casillas/pique had a little spat, Ramos/all the barca spaniards with the pushing etc). You'd think they'd be good mates after what they've achieved together, and at least a bit of respect but no, none at all.

Just because they had a bit of a row in a high pressure game against two fiercest rivals doesn't mean they dont like each other.

Fuck, come to think of it...my two best mates....I've had full blown scraps with both of them...at least once.

They were probably laughing about it after the game. It really was nothing.

Wouldnt be surprised if Puyol sends Ramos a cheeky text about getting him send off.

[The Fadman]

I honestly think Arby might be in the top 5 right back debate to be honest. Very solid defensively and decent going forward. Extremely reliable.

[rednich85]

I honestly think Arby might be in the top 5 right back debate to be honest. Very solid defensively and decent going forward. Extremely reliable.

*squints eyes and rubs chin*

Hmmmm. I think there can certainly be an argument made for him.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

I dont watch enough of either to really have an opinion on who's better, but surely you can't use a clip of Lahm making a mistake playing at left back to say he's not as good at right back?

He said that Lahm always keeps composure and rarely does mistakes defensively, I showed a clip of him losing composure and doing a mistake that argubaly costed his country the European title, don't worry I can know my right from my left.

[REDcrazy]

Overrated as an attacking player. Average at best there. Can't defend to save his life. Positioning is awful and tactical awareness is pretty much nil.

Already had a bad attitude before and when you get Mourinho as a coach, it tends to get even worse.

[presmach]

Complete c*nt.

Lost his cool......in a match against their fiercest rival....getting embarrassed and tortured for about 90 minutes.....and lashed out.

What a c*nt for caring.

he's not a c*nt for caring. he's a c*nt for channeling that feeling into a vicious kick tended to deliberately harm his opponent.
i can actually understand the emotion behind it though, sometimes i wish football was like hockey in that they have enforcers
who are allowed to literally pummel each other into the ground if given any excuse.

i would in any case pay good money to see Mascherano go after Sergio Ramos after that kick

[elsewhere]

I think casillas is the least c*nt in the Spanish national team,he seems like a very nice guy.

[NowInOz]

I think casillas is the least c*nt in the Spanish national team,he seems like a very nice guy.

i assume you mean starting 11 cos if you dont its obviously Reina 

And for everyone slagging of Ramos in this thread, put it this way id have him at Liverpool any day.

And we actually do have the best right back in the world anyway and we all know who that is..... he just doesnt play there that often.

[liverpooll]

I think casillas is the least c*nt in the Spanish national team,he seems like a very nice guy.

Reina, Torres and even those barca players minus Valdes seems good

[NowInOz]

Reina, Torres and even those barca players minus Valdes seems good

and Xabi Alonso. what a boss man and a boss player....... still love him.

Torres might be a nice guy but lets be honest he spits his dummy out on occasion

[elsewhere]

i assume you mean starting 11 cos if you dont its obviously Reina 

And for everyone slagging of Ramos in this thread, put it this way id have him at Liverpool any day.

And we actually do have the best right back in the world anyway and we all know who that is..... he just doesnt play there that often

I meant outside of our guys Reina,torres,Alonso.

Who wouldn't take Sergio ramos,and I actually think he s better than our glen but maicon is still the best in the world.

[elsewhere]

Reina, Torres and even those barca players minus Valdes seems good

agreed,even busquets,despite being dirty at times like that inter match,he seems nice fella,and his position actually requires to be dirty/cheat at times but I never saw him intentionally trying to hurt a player.puyol,valdes,David villa are c*nts if you ask me;)

[downtown]

I meant outside of our guys Reina,torres,Alonso.

Who wouldn't take Sergio ramos,and I actually think he s better than our glen but maicon is still the best in the world.

He is better in the air, but Glen absolutely rapes him on the ground and when it comes to having quick feet.

The only top team who'd have Ramos as their starter is Juve imo, and Milan (Abate has improved a lot this season though)

[Xxavi]

The horse-face is constantly saved by Puyol and Pique, yet he was having a go at them. Fucking not only he is an average defender, but his head is completely empty. His brain farts are so comical at times.

His overhyped reputation is due to Spain's success. I have heard a description of him on RTE like "Ramos is a Paul McShane on steroids". Seems pretty accurate.

[Xxavi]

Can I ask behind Alves and Maicon who are the other top 5 RBs in the world, clearly Sagna, Neville or Rafael, Bosingwa, Abate, Motta and Cassetti are not in the top 5 RBs in the world, we have one in Johnson who maybe on Ramos' level BTW, but to say Ramos isn't one of the top five RBs in the world is just ridiculos

The young lad, Azpilicueta, the former Osasuna player, now at Marseille is pretty good and by all accounts, should replace headless chicken that's Ramos in Spanish NT.