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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1200 on: June 19, 2011, 09:33:42 pm »
The three games have been worrying as he really has been appalling, lacking in most of the basic midfield skills with no real outstanding attribute

We just have to trust our scouts judgement

Why is it worrying when they havent been in a red shirt though? Appaling is a tad extreme as well IMO.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1201 on: June 19, 2011, 09:34:35 pm »
I'd be concerned about what I've seen from Henderson and Carroll if we'd paid a COMBINED £20m.

But I'm not Kenny Dalglish. So we'll have to wait and see.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1202 on: June 19, 2011, 09:35:35 pm »
The three games have been worrying as he really has been appalling, lacking in most of the basic midfield skills with no real outstanding attribute

We just have to trust our scouts judgement

Agreed. In all aspects, if we had paid a fee similar to Lucas, then everyone would be willing to let it flow, but the fee makes you scrutanize what sort of players you have bought. It's not often Liverpool spend 20 million on a player.

We've been ripped of badly. And you know we have when Steve Bruce isn't complaining and happy with matters.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1203 on: June 19, 2011, 09:35:48 pm »
The three games have been worrying as he really has been appalling, lacking in most of the basic midfield skills with no real outstanding attribute

We just have to trust our scouts judgement

He's playing:

- With players far inferior to Liverpool Football Club's.
- Under a manager far inferior to Liverpool Football Club's.
- In a position far inferior to that he'll play for Liverpool Football Club.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1204 on: June 19, 2011, 09:36:41 pm »
nrrrrrngh.

Not seeing 'it'.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1205 on: June 19, 2011, 09:36:44 pm »
When he plays for us I will form an opinion.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1206 on: June 19, 2011, 09:37:21 pm »
Nah.

Mate come on.

 Henderson is not a patch on Modric and you know it.

Also he isn't a 20m player. This signing is a massive gamble.

However lets see how he does in the red shirt and hopefully he will be prove me wrong.

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« Reply #1207 on: June 19, 2011, 09:38:16 pm »
Come home lad and shows us what you can really do.
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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1208 on: June 19, 2011, 09:38:19 pm »
England played him wrong imo.

He needs to freedom to be the playmaker in midfield, Pearce set him out to be the ball winning holding player, he simple can't do it.

He's more of a Meireles type player than a Lucas one IMO, give him a bit more freedom than he got with England and he'll be a cracking player.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1209 on: June 19, 2011, 09:38:53 pm »
When he plays for us I will form an opinion.

Good way to think but my concern is paying the high price. Hope he can live up to it.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1210 on: June 19, 2011, 09:39:08 pm »
Ah, the quims have surfaced again. Lovely stuff.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1211 on: June 19, 2011, 09:39:56 pm »
Bells

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1212 on: June 19, 2011, 09:40:42 pm »
England played him wrong imo.

He needs to freedom to be the playmaker in midfield, Pearce set him out to be the ball winning holding player, he simple can't do it.

He's more of a Meireles type player than a Lucas one IMO, give him a bit more freedom than he got with England and he'll be a cracking player.

Exactly mate , Dalglish will have a position in mind far more attacking than Pearce , i know which manager i would trust to get the most out of him.Playing for Liverpool is going to be completely different i dont understand why people are so worried at this stage.


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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1213 on: June 19, 2011, 09:41:05 pm »
What would be really nice, is if people waited until he had put on a red shirt before slating him.

What would also be nice, is if people stopped mentioning the transfer fee as all it does it to add pressure to the lad.

What would be nicest of all, is if some people talking shite in here had a think.
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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1214 on: June 19, 2011, 09:41:19 pm »
Mate come on.

 Henderson is not a patch on Modric and you know it.

Also he isn't a 20m player. This signing is a massive gamble.

However lets see how he does in the red shirt and hopefully he will be prove me wrong.

No, you're right, he isn't a £20million player. He's a £16million player. How is it a gamble, exactly?

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1215 on: June 19, 2011, 09:41:24 pm »
The three games have been worrying as he really has been appalling, lacking in most of the basic midfield skills with no real outstanding attribute

We just have to trust our scouts judgement
He is young and learning his trade, it is way to early to be worrying. I think England as a whole were poor and managed badly by Pearce. Forget the figure paid and take Henderson for what he is and give him time.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1216 on: June 19, 2011, 09:41:38 pm »
Good way to think but my concern is paying the high price. Hope he can live up to it.

Why is it your concern?

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1217 on: June 19, 2011, 09:41:39 pm »
Now that everyone seems to think he's shite, when he is playing out of position in a far inferior team and under a far inferior manager, maybe there will be less pressure on him when the new season starts. Who cares if he cost 16m, 20m or 120m. None of us forked out a single cent, so let us just wait and watch before we judge.

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« Reply #1218 on: June 19, 2011, 09:42:04 pm »
Sell him. Sterling's been average for the U17's so far too. Sell him.
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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1219 on: June 19, 2011, 09:42:15 pm »
for me if he isnt injured playing for ingerland than that is success enough, seen a few bits that i like but what he does only counts if he is wearing our shirts!
these meaningless games also gives ammunition for stupid assessments like below!

The three games have been worrying as he really has been appalling, lacking in most of the basic midfield skills with no real outstanding attribute

We just have to trust our scouts judgement
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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1220 on: June 19, 2011, 09:42:32 pm »
No, you're right, he isn't a £20million player. He's a £16million player. How is it a gamble, exactly?

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Henderson will prove his worth when Kenny gives him that extra bit of freedom to play to his strengths, unlike Pearce who played to his weaknesses.

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« Reply #1221 on: June 19, 2011, 09:46:27 pm »
Looks like we have a new scape goat for the twats.
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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1222 on: June 19, 2011, 09:47:35 pm »
Agreed. In all aspects, if we had paid a fee similar to Lucas, then everyone would be willing to let it flow, but the fee makes you scrutanize what sort of players you have bought. It's not often Liverpool spend 20 million on a player.

We've been ripped of badly. And you know we have when Steve Bruce isn't complaining and happy with matters.

You need to read more. Either your reasoning skills are rubbish or you admittedly read really crap stuff.

The only bit of this post that actually has a resemblence of reality is that It's not often Liverpool spend 20 million on a player... which by  where you're posting means Henderson

We didn't
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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1223 on: June 19, 2011, 09:47:42 pm »
England played him wrong imo.

He needs to freedom to be the playmaker in midfield, Pearce set him out to be the ball winning holding player, he simple can't do it.

He's more of a Meireles type player than a Lucas one IMO, give him a bit more freedom than he got with England and he'll be a cracking player.

Because he's been awfull at tackling, and getting a hold of the ball, or controlling the midfield, it must automatically mean he's more of an offensive player right? I can't recall him scoring many goals for Sunderland last season, shots on goal, or any attacking flair.

Even if Pearce's tactics aside, you'd expect to see some basic midfield skills. He just doesn't seem to have any outstanding attribute for a 20 million pound player.

You can see why the Mancs paid 16 million for Jones, he has some raw attributes, raw defensive skills you can play on. I remember people barked when Villa payed 12 million for Ashley Young, but you could see he had raw pace, some skill, and could become a player. With Carrol you can see he has the height, phsyicality, a great shot on him.  You look for some attritbutes in young players. Don't see anything particularly exciting about Henderson.



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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1224 on: June 19, 2011, 09:48:01 pm »
Yeah and I agree with him to be honest.

Henderson isn't a 15-20m player and currently not fit enough to lace Modic boots.
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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1225 on: June 19, 2011, 09:48:17 pm »
bit like a trip down the matchday threads same useless pricks talking shit, god help the lad if one pass goes astray pre season suppose you rather Kenny said fuck it lets not chance it and give poulsen another go!
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« Reply #1226 on: June 19, 2011, 09:48:23 pm »
Looks like we have a new scape goat for the twats.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1227 on: June 19, 2011, 09:49:48 pm »
Because he's been awfull at tackling, and getting a hold of the ball, or controlling the midfield, it must automatically mean he's more of an offensive player right? I can't recall him scoring many goals for Sunderland last season, shots on goal, or any attacking flair.

Even if Pearce's tactics aside, you'd expect to see some basic midfield skills. He just doesn't seem to have any outstanding attribute for a 20 million pound player.

You can see why the Mancs paid 16 million for Jones, he has some raw attributes, raw defensive skills you can play on. I remember people barked when Villa payed 12 million for Ashley Young, but you could see he had raw pace, some skill, and could become a player. With Carrol you can see he has the height, phsyicality, a great shot on him.  You look for some attritbutes in young players. Don't see anything particularly exciting about Henderson.

Where did I say he was a goalscorer? I said he was a playmaker, totally different types of players.

Henderson is NOT a holding player, he needs the freedom to create chances and bring others into the game, not sit there and mop up the second balls.

Stop posting your shite, it's getting old now.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1228 on: June 19, 2011, 09:50:15 pm »
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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1229 on: June 19, 2011, 09:50:29 pm »
Why is it your concern?
....but, but people are worried that we are being ripped off!!

Transfer fees mean fuck all. This lad hasn't even played for us yet and there are fucking idiots on here who think they know better than our manager and who are slating the boy.....
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« Reply #1230 on: June 19, 2011, 09:50:40 pm »
Why is it your concern?

Because we don't have an infinate budget. And we are then trying to save 2-3 million on proven players, which we could miss out, because a large chunk was wasted on a bizarre transfer.

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« Reply #1231 on: June 19, 2011, 09:50:53 pm »
Because he's been awfull at tackling, and getting a hold of the ball, or controlling the midfield, it must automatically mean he's more of an offensive player right? I can't recall him scoring many goals for Sunderland last season, shots on goal, or any attacking flair.

Even if Pearce's tactics aside, you'd expect to see some basic midfield skills. He just doesn't seem to have any outstanding attribute for a 20 million pound player.

You can see why the Mancs paid 16 million for Jones, he has some raw attributes, raw defensive skills you can play on. I remember people barked when Villa payed 12 million for Ashley Young, but you could see he had raw pace, some skill, and could become a player. With Carrol you can see he has the height, phsyicality, a great shot on him.  You look for some attritbutes in young players. Don't see anything particularly exciting about Henderson.




And you live in Newcastle and he is a Sunderland lad do you have a tint of black and white stripes in you geordie boy, since the minute he signed you have been posting shit about him why is that ?
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« Reply #1232 on: June 19, 2011, 09:51:29 pm »
Because we don't have an infinate budget. And we are then trying to save 2-3 million on proven players, which we could miss out, because a large chunk was wasted on a bizarre transfer.

1. You don't know our budget,
2. You don't know how Kenny will let him play,
3. You're opinions are shite and as most will agree, wrong.

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« Reply #1233 on: June 19, 2011, 09:51:36 pm »
Because we don't have an infinate budget. And we are then trying to save 2-3 million on proven players, which we could miss out, because a large chunk was wasted on a bizarre transfer.
How do you know this is a fact?

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« Reply #1234 on: June 19, 2011, 09:51:43 pm »
No, you're right, he isn't a £20million player. He's a £16million player. How is it a gamble, exactly?

Bears repeating. I'm not sure why the £20m number is still floating around so much.

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« Reply #1235 on: June 19, 2011, 09:51:46 pm »
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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1236 on: June 19, 2011, 09:53:22 pm »
Because we don't have an infinate budget. And we are then trying to save 2-3 million on proven players, which we could miss out, because a large chunk was wasted on a bizarre transfer.

1 you dont know how big the budget is
2 I trust KK and DC before a care in the community project on signings!
3 you post shit regulary
4 see 3
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« Reply #1237 on: June 19, 2011, 09:53:29 pm »
Jasbinder just doesn't understand football.

He is one of the Lucas hate crowd too. Clearly has no idea that a player doesn't have to do millions of step overs to be good.


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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1238 on: June 19, 2011, 09:53:50 pm »
He's playing:

- With players far inferior to Liverpool Football Club's.
- Under a manager far inferior to Liverpool Football Club's.
- In a position far inferior to that he'll play for Liverpool Football Club.

Messi is crap for Argentina behind the striker. He's boss for Barcelona.

Thank fuck for some sense in what appears to be a wilderness of complete piss and bollocks.  There are some complete arseholes on here again tonight.

I'll judge him in the red shirt, not how he plays for England.

Jordan's been purchased on potential and future development.  Not the here and now.  He may take a few seasons to mature and show his full potential.

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Re: Jordan Henderson-Officially a Liverpool player- Discussion
« Reply #1239 on: June 19, 2011, 09:54:12 pm »
....but, but people are worried that we are being ripped off!!

Transfer fees mean fuck all. This lad hasn't even played for us yet and there are fucking idiots on here who think they know better than our manager and who are slating the boy.....

Most of them who go on and on about paying over the odds would gladly bankrupt us some exotic foreign superstar

There's a long list of our great players who have never excelled for England. I'll start to worry when he doesn't perform in a red shirt.
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