18.
Think there'll be an inquest if we have 18 points after 5 games mate!
For what its worth, I think we'll get around 8 points.
Stoke: 0
Bournemouth: 3
Arsenal: 1
West Ham: 3
Manutd: 1
I've gone for a loss in the 1st game. Absolute nightmare 1st fixture. Its a huge ask to go there on the 1st game of the season and win, it really is. Stoke have been in the PL for 7 years now and we have only beat them once in the league and lost 4 times, so that shows how tough it is. Its such a horrible place to go. Not many teams will get a result there so its not the end of the world if we do end up coming away with a loss but if we do take anything from the game it'll be a massive unexpected boost. Our results against Arsenal & UTD will be more pivotal at the end of the season in my opinion.
If we can come out with 8 points or more in the first 5 games, then we'll be well on course to have a great season. Other teams will likely have more points than us after 5 games, but considering the difficulty of our start, 8 points would be a decent score.
The important thing is to win our home games and avoid defeat against the top 4.We cannot afford to do as badly against the top teams as we did last season. Reverse the results against UTD in both games and we'd be playing CL football this season.