Author Topic: Old photos of and around Liverpool (Read 834558 times)

Mr Grieves · « **Reply #280 on:** August 8, 2010, 04:45:05 pm »

Love those old black and white pictures.

Have tried to find old black and whites of Anfield, people walking to the match etc etc, Only ever seen some at one of the shops at the albert dock, they were a bit pricey though.

Anyone ever seen such pics for sale anywhere , on internet etc?

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Big Red Richie · « **Reply #281 on:** August 8, 2010, 04:54:04 pm »

They have quite afew in the archives of the Liverpool Echo.

The thing is, you would probably need a researcher to track them down though.

Get in touch with them, to see if any of them are commercially available.

Saying that.
If and when the new Anfield gets started, the current Anfield gets near it's end, don't be surprised if the Echo (Trinity Mirror) bring out a book about Anfield from down the years.

G a r y · « **Reply #282 on:** August 8, 2010, 05:06:16 pm »

Apparently Sefton Park was once surrounded by gates?

Anyone got any pictures of this?

Roady · « **Reply #283 on:** August 8, 2010, 05:42:00 pm »

it was indeed surounded by gates, just a walk around theres evidence of it everywhere.The road surrouding the park on the opposite side of the park theres plenty of old gate holes and gate posts littered about.no pics though sorry

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #284 on:** August 8, 2010, 05:44:25 pm »

Looking at the Ghosts of WW2 thread made me have a think that when we paste up old photo's or links, perhaps if possible we should try and do a picture of the same scene from now using streetview. I posted one up in the Ghosts thread before but I'll do some here.

Here's Seaforth Road then...

and now

Here's looking towards Aintree from I guess the Railway bridge on Warbreck Moor

and now

Here's Carisbrooke Road

and now

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #285 on:** August 8, 2010, 05:46:28 pm »

Quote from: G a r y on August 8, 2010, 05:06:16 pm

Apparently Sefton Park was once surrounded by gates?

Anyone got any pictures of this?

You mean like this?

I know a lot of railings round town got taken down during both the 1st and then the 2nd World Wars to be melted for metal.

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #286 on:** August 8, 2010, 06:43:38 pm »

This is about the same place I went to see the 'Tall Ships'

1915 and 2010 click

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #287 on:** August 8, 2010, 06:55:19 pm »

Took me ages to work out where this was...

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #288 on:** August 8, 2010, 07:03:12 pm »

Quote from: Tsar Kastik on August 8, 2010, 06:43:38 pm

This is about the same place I went to see the 'Tall Ships'

It's great this.
If you move back on streetview to about here the house towards the end on the right with the chimney stacks parallel with the road is still there, and the white house to the left is also just identifiable from its chimney stacks.
I'm guessing the awning on the immediate right in the old photo with the kids on the corner looks like it might have been on what is now the Marine Pub.

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #289 on:** August 8, 2010, 07:13:25 pm »

Quote from: Tsar Kastik on August 8, 2010, 06:55:19 pm

Took me ages to work out where this was...

Isn't that Lewis's before the Blitz?

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #290 on:** August 8, 2010, 07:20:01 pm »

**?!#*

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #291 on:** August 8, 2010, 07:37:39 pm »

Here's another...

Then ...

and another

and now

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #292 on:** August 8, 2010, 08:11:30 pm »

Looks like you got another one right Gulley (took me hours to get that Lewis's one)...this is from the 1911 directory for South Rd.
The baker in the pic is on the corner of Albert Road.
Number 1 is nearest the river.

G a r y · « **Reply #293 on:** August 8, 2010, 08:33:13 pm »

Quote from: The Gulleysucker on August 8, 2010, 05:46:28 pm

You mean like this?

I know a lot of railings round town got taken down during both the 1st and then the 2nd World Wars to be melted for metal.

Isn't that princess park? But yeah, apparently they went all the way around - confirmed by Roady, can't find a pic anywhere though

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #294 on:** August 8, 2010, 08:59:54 pm »

The railings around Sefton Park can just be made out on the right in this pic....

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #295 on:** August 8, 2010, 09:01:58 pm »

Quote from: G a r y on August 8, 2010, 08:33:13 pm

Isn't that princess park? ....

You are probably right, I simply googled and it claimed that they are at Sefton (You can forgive me as the last time I went there would be about 1958!, we always went to Newsham)
I've just had a wander on streetview and there are a couple of gateposts still around like here.
From what I can see it looks like there would have been originally railings as well. Look at the low wall running away from this post and you can see holes that the railings would have been mounted in.

Just seen Tsar has confirmed railings.

G a r y · « **Reply #296 on:** August 8, 2010, 09:14:50 pm »

Brilliant that nice one, would have been great to see it back in the day

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #297 on:** August 8, 2010, 09:46:19 pm »

Chapel St. St. Nic's corner 1925 and 2010

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #298 on:** August 8, 2010, 10:50:09 pm »

Leece Street then..

and now

Hardman Street then...

and now

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #299 on:** August 8, 2010, 11:44:42 pm »

Quote from: Tsar Kastik on August 8, 2010, 07:20:01 pm

**?!#*

Sorry, forgot to answer that.

I'd seen this before

....so I was able to recognise it by those curved top windows on the first floor.
(I'm not old enough to to actually remember it looking like that!

)

One thing I still can't find reference to is I heard that the night of that particular raid, a shelter very close by to the vicinity of Lewis's also took a direct hit and was simply filled in with all the bodies. Ever heard anything about that?

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #300 on:** August 9, 2010, 02:04:51 am »

And here's a few more.

Then...

and

now

Then ...

and

now

Then...

and

now almost unrecognisable.

Then..

and

now

Worryingly, I clearly remember Brownlow looking like this about '61 with the tramlines still there and half covered in asphalt.

Lining this next one up took some time....

But here it is...

now

Note the nearest set of steps on the right only has one flimsy rail now....

SalisburyRed · « **Reply #301 on:** August 9, 2010, 02:40:26 am »

Great stuff mate, thanks for taking the time to post that.

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #302 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:02:33 am »

A few more...

The Rialto then

and

now

St Nicholas and the remains of the Overhead.

and

now

Rodney Street

and

now

Streetview doesn't quite allow a better matchup.

Sri Sudachan · « **Reply #303 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:21:19 am »

Brilliant stuff Gulleysucker, thank you for your effort.

Terry de Niro · « **Reply #304 on:** August 10, 2010, 02:03:30 pm »

Quote from: Sri Sudachan on August 10, 2010, 11:21:19 am

Brilliant stuff Gulleysucker, thank you for your effort.

I second that. Great stuff..

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #305 on:** August 10, 2010, 03:14:26 pm »

Thanks Sri and Terry.

Here's a few more from old images posted at the start of the thread..

and now

and now

This one is a sod.... The original caption said this is Pall Mall with Exchange on the left so at first I thought it must be a Tates chimney in the distance but this would be confusing as the lines into exchange ran on a viaduct which would surely be on the left hand side.

But I've decided the original caption/source is wrong, Exchange is at the top right and this view is looking away from Tates and up towards Tithebarn.

so..now

You can make out the how the reconstructed warehouses retaind the original rooflines of the old building on the left in the original pic.

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #306 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:57:21 pm »

One of the views that's def been improved

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #307 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:49:13 pm »

P51's along Upper Parliament Street on their way to Burtonwood and then to operational bases.

Then

and almost unrecognisable and all swept away except for the distinctive notches in the roofline of the Warehouse in the distant background now

Jim Price · « **Reply #308 on:** August 13, 2010, 11:18:12 pm »

Don't know if this has already been thrown up but there are some great pictures of old Liverpool train stations at http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/sites.shtml

Love the shot of Dingle station.

Interesting that the former Canada Dock line looks in good shape still. If the new ground is ever built it would be nice to see it carrying passengers again.

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #309 on:** August 14, 2010, 12:13:59 am »

Quote from: Jim Price on August 13, 2010, 11:18:12 pm

I seem to remember Canada Dock yard being quite busy and also in use by the military quite a lot in the late 70's.

Used to drive down Derby road back then and occasionally at night glimpse rakes of warflats and lowmacs down in the yard with military vehicles on.

I expect once Melwood REME closed, there was probably no need for it anymore.

I sometimes, for a change, got the Diesel from Southport to Limestreet instead of the electric to Exchange (this was before the loop line was constructed with a direct electric route) which dropped off after Bootle Oriel road onto the Canada Dock line line and ended up via the back of Walton and then Tuebrook at Edge Hill and then onto LimeStreet. Some interesting stuff could sometimes be seen parked in this cutting waiting to be marshalled.

But yes, the line is in good shape and surely wouldn't cost too much to have a third rail put on it and integrated into the system.

They could even re-open the station at Tuebrook then.

Look closely, a leaded light window with the coal merchants name inset and a neon sign. Luxury!

The original bridge here, before it was widened for the dual carriageway improvement, used to have a big painted "Ferodo" advert for brake linings on it. As a child it was a very confusing word.

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #310 on:** August 14, 2010, 12:25:24 am »

Some more then and nows..

Blitz damage...then

and now

Then

and now

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #311 on:** August 14, 2010, 07:20:24 pm »

That same corner of Harrington St looking toward Lord St. now;
...and in 1927

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #312 on:** August 14, 2010, 07:45:40 pm »

An aerial view of the damage by the May blitz and a sky shot of Anfield 1966 among the photos in here; http://www.englishheritageprints.com/pictures_1863689/liverpool-afl03_aerofilms_a1911.html

jambutty · « **Reply #313 on:** August 16, 2010, 02:39:24 pm »

Did none of you old arses go the 'Hopie' as kids?

6p for the benches, 7p for the 'plush' center seats.

Most of us got 7p to go and bought an oxo cube to lick from the benches.

Slick_Beef · « **Reply #314 on:** August 17, 2010, 08:28:49 pm »

Thanks for that Gulleysucker, thouroughly enjoyed seeing those

Quote from: Jim Price on August 13, 2010, 11:18:12 pm

Don't know if this has already been thrown up but there are some great pictures of old Liverpool train stations at http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/sites.shtml

Love the shot of Dingle station.

Interesting that the former Canada Dock line looks in good shape still. If the new ground is ever built it would be nice to see it carrying passengers again.

I love seeing all the old stations. I remember when I was little me and dad would sometimes go to that garage which is inside dingle station.

There's a good "Then and now" of crown street station on that site too. The red chimney that's in both photos belongs to the wapping tunnel.

(source: http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/l/liverpool_crown_street/index.shtml )

I guess they had to close it because too many people were getting off at edge hill...

Garstonite · « **Reply #315 on:** August 17, 2010, 09:00:08 pm »

Has anyone got those pictures of around Liverpool that were put up from a site a woman had put together after visiting the city years ago? There was one of outside The Kop that kavah now has in his avatar?

Thanks

eAyeAddio · « **Reply #316 on:** August 18, 2010, 01:28:21 pm »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/pvdjW8F6YEg?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/pvdjW8F6YEg?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US</a>

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #317 on:** August 18, 2010, 07:00:05 pm »

Nice one eAye. there were some other interesting vids on that link.

There are a couple more Overhead photies if you scroll down to page 554 of this link...

http://pdfmm.free.fr//5611.pdf

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #318 on:** August 18, 2010, 08:09:25 pm »

Quote from: Tsar Kastik on August 18, 2010, 07:00:05 pm

Nice one eAye. there were some other interesting vids on that link.

There are a couple more Overhead photies if you scroll down to page 554 of this link...

http://pdfmm.free.fr//5611.pdf

Tsar, that's a brilliant site. Thanks.
I used to have a load of the old 1930's ones when I was a kid, handed down by Uncles.
I can see I'm going to busy downloading now.
(For anyone who wants a particular issue, just http://pdfmm.free.fr// and it will show you the ones that are available to download.)

eAyeAddio · « **Reply #319 on:** August 18, 2010, 10:59:14 pm »

Quote from: Tsar Kastik on August 18, 2010, 07:00:05 pm

..........there were some other interesting vids on that link...........

Yep, and the one of the driver's eye view through the windscreen as the train leaves Lime St. Stn. is a reminder of just how intimidating it must have been for anyone new to the city as they arrived at Lime Street Station for the first time! It looked like another planet!