Author Topic: Sunderland (Read 178959 times)

TheShanklyGates · « **Reply #40 on:** October 2, 2015, 11:07:24 pm »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on October 2, 2015, 11:05:22 pm

Advocaat is considering quitting according to The Telegraph

Should've stuck to his guns and walked in the Summer when he wanted to.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 3, 2015, 04:18:47 pm »

Louise Taylor of The Guardian wrote before today's match that it's possible that both Advocaat and DoF Lee Congerton could quit following their match against West Ham. A few other newspapers are saying Congerton has already resigned.

Red James · « **Reply #42 on:** October 3, 2015, 08:13:31 pm »

With the way it's inevitably going at Sunderland and the disaster at Newcastle, it's very possible the North East won't have a club in the Premier League. Unless Boro goes up that is.

rocco · « **Reply #43 on:** October 4, 2015, 11:38:31 am »

Has said goodbye to the players

Why is he leaving ?

bird_lfc · « **Reply #44 on:** October 4, 2015, 11:48:09 am »

Quote from: rocco on October 4, 2015, 11:38:31 am

Has said goodbye to the players

Why is he leaving ?

His wife wanted him to quit at the start of the season right?

Maybe he wants to move back home and it's putting too much of a strain on his life/family.

Stage 1 of the Sunderland manager cycle complete. next manager comes in, has a decent season, beats newcastle and they beat the drop.

shit start to next season, sack manager and repeat.

Red Beret · « **Reply #45 on:** October 4, 2015, 11:59:23 am »

I can't imagine what it's like to support a club where you know you're already effectively relegated with 30 games still to play.

payback · « **Reply #46 on:** October 4, 2015, 12:03:37 pm »

Allardyce will be there by next week imo.

rocco · « **Reply #47 on:** October 4, 2015, 12:35:33 pm »

Quote from: jackbird_lfc on October 4, 2015, 11:48:09 am

His wife wanted him to quit at the start of the season right?

Maybe he wants to move back home and it's putting too much of a strain on his life/family.

Stage 1 of the Sunderland manager cycle complete. next manager comes in, has a decent season, beats newcastle and they beat the drop.

shit start to next season, sack manager and repeat.

Another 8 months surely was workable ?

Party Phil · « **Reply #48 on:** October 4, 2015, 01:37:41 pm »

He's gone
http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2015/october/advocaat-departs

Zeb · « **Reply #49 on:** October 4, 2015, 03:40:37 pm »

Quote from: rocco on October 4, 2015, 12:35:33 pm

Another 8 months surely was workable ?

Didn't think the owner was putting enough into the team and too much infighting behind the scenes, their DoF is meant to be wanting out too for same reasons. Legacy of a lot of money pissed up the wall by previous managers for not a great deal of results.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #50 on:** October 4, 2015, 03:52:14 pm »

Quote from: Zeb on October 4, 2015, 03:40:37 pm

Didn't think the owner was putting enough into the team and too much infighting behind the scenes, their DoF is meant to be wanting out too for same reasons. Legacy of a lot of money pissed up the wall by previous managers for not a great deal of results.

Yeah, sounds like Congerton felt he didn't have enough control over transfers. For example, when Poyet was manager, Congerton was being overruled on signings Poyet wanted like Buckley and Scocco. Don't think there is a club in the PL of their size that has pissed away so much money over the past decade. There's absolutely no attempt at a long-term vision or plan there. Whoever they hire, is likely going to be needed as someone who can bring them back up next season, because they should be a strong candidate to go down. Even if they don't get relegated, I think they need to start looking at their youth development. They haven't brought too many players through their youth system in recent years. Henderson and Colback being the most recent ones.

MagicHat · « **Reply #51 on:** October 5, 2015, 12:58:47 pm »

Quote from: TheShanklyGates on October 2, 2015, 11:07:24 pm

Should've stuck to his guns and walked in the Summer when he wanted to.

Indeed. He was clearly uncertain and dithered about taking the job, was not a good sign.

Lack of quality in squad, been poor attitude within squad (I wouldn't rule out survival completely becuase they always make a late rally) and seems Advocaat has fallen out with some players, seems like didn't get transfer money he needed to rebuild squad, problems at the top.

However even with Advocaat having improved their firepower and midfield, even when they try really hard, Sunderland only seem able to get draws. Very worrying for them but if they get relegated, this has been coming a long long time.

Titi Camara · « **Reply #52 on:** October 5, 2015, 01:26:58 pm »

Quote from: MagicHat on October 5, 2015, 12:58:47 pm

Ziltoid · « **Reply #53 on:** October 5, 2015, 01:51:12 pm »

Cattive Maniere · « **Reply #54 on:** October 5, 2015, 01:52:56 pm »

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Ziltoid · « **Reply #55 on:** October 5, 2015, 02:29:28 pm »

Quote from: Cattive Maniere on October 5, 2015, 01:52:56 pm

Ziltoid · « **Reply #56 on:** October 5, 2015, 02:32:19 pm »

Still love this one

jooneyisdagod · « **Reply #57 on:** October 6, 2015, 01:56:06 pm »

Reported to be after Nigel fucking Pearson. Will they ever learn?

sinnermichael · « **Reply #58 on:** October 6, 2015, 02:08:41 pm »

Advocaat had more games as interim manager than the actual full time manager.

mkferdy · « **Reply #59 on:** October 6, 2015, 03:09:09 pm »

Quote from: jooneyisdagloomy on October 6, 2015, 01:56:06 pm

Reported to be after Nigel fucking Pearson. Will they ever learn?

Considering the state the club is in they could do worse in my opinion. Any manager currently in a role I would guess unless making a massive step up will stay clear plus despite Pearson coming across as a weirdo the current Leicester side has a great mentality about them. If he could install that at Sunderland its probably the only hope they will have of staying up.

sinnermichael · « **Reply #60 on:** October 9, 2015, 01:45:51 pm »

Opened talks with fat Sam.

sinnermichael · « **Reply #61 on:** October 9, 2015, 06:37:42 pm »

Fat Sam in.

Quite an achievement for Sunderland to replace one dick with an even bigger one.

child-in-time · « **Reply #62 on:** October 9, 2015, 06:41:01 pm »

He'll do well there. He's a character which the league has been missing and unlike Sherwood, Bruce, etc, he is a good manager.

ThePeetmix · « **Reply #63 on:** October 9, 2015, 06:45:59 pm »

Quote from: sinnermichael on October 9, 2015, 06:37:42 pm

Fat Sam in.

Quite an achievement for Sunderland to replace one dick with an even bigger one.

At least this one brings some laughs.

Plus Big Sam has made a career out of these kind of situations.

Snail · « **Reply #64 on:** October 9, 2015, 06:47:17 pm »

He'll probably keep them up somehow.

Samie · « **Reply #65 on:** October 9, 2015, 06:49:39 pm »

Quote from: sinnermichael on October 9, 2015, 01:45:51 pm

Opened talks with fat Sam.

Quote from: sinnermichael on October 9, 2015, 06:37:42 pm

Fat Sam in.

Quite an achievement for Sunderland to replace one dick with an even bigger one.

What took Fat Sam so long to make his mind up?

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #66 on:** October 9, 2015, 06:50:11 pm »

Fake Fat Sam made me like the real Big Sam a little.

gazzalfc · « **Reply #67 on:** October 9, 2015, 06:50:22 pm »

He lives for jobs like this. It's a no lose situation

Keep them up then he gets the adulation and probably a nice hefty bonus. Then get sacked next season

Get them relegated then just blame the players and the board and move on again

Least we get another season of BigSam Twitter posts

Gods_Left_Boot · « **Reply #68 on:** October 9, 2015, 06:53:47 pm »

Quite a coup for them in all honesty. He's a bit of a prick (although the The Big Sam twitter account did wonders for his PR, somehow

) but he's a top choice for any relegation-scrap club.

Hoenheim · « **Reply #69 on:** October 9, 2015, 06:58:57 pm »

Quote from: Gods_Left_Boot on October 9, 2015, 06:53:47 pm

Quite a coup for them in all honesty. He's a bit of a prick (although the The Big Sam twitter account did wonders for his PR, somehow ) but he's a top choice for any relegation-scrap club.

This one still has me in stitches:

"Just ate a Ferrero Rocher out of the arse of London's finest discount whore. I'm so fucking sophisticated it hurts. For real."

Les Willis · « **Reply #70 on:** October 9, 2015, 07:15:43 pm »

Quote from: Samie on October 9, 2015, 06:49:39 pm

What took Fat Sam so long to make his mind up?

He was probably waiting for us not to give him the job before he committed to Sunderland. Such is his ego.

Good luck to him though. I don't mind him these days - like Brian Blessed above, the fake twitter account has endeared me to the real Sam.

B0151? · « **Reply #71 on:** October 9, 2015, 07:55:29 pm »

For some reason I don't mind Sunderland?

If they want to have a manager that'll keep them in the Prem, it's a solid choice you'd think.

Billy1561 · « **Reply #72 on:** October 9, 2015, 08:45:23 pm »

Quote from: gazzalfc on October 9, 2015, 06:50:22 pm

He lives for jobs like this. It's a no lose situation

Keep them up then he gets the adulation and probably a nice hefty bonus. Then get sacked next season

Get them relegated then just blame the players and the board and move on again

Least we get another season of BigSam Twitter posts

Pretty much hit the nail smack on the head with this.

planet-terror · « **Reply #73 on:** October 9, 2015, 09:47:00 pm »

Gutted honestly. Was first choice here for me.

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #74 on:** October 9, 2015, 09:51:35 pm »

In all the excitement of today I've only just heard about this. Typical Fat Sam trying to overshadow our announcement.

thegoodfella · « **Reply #75 on:** October 9, 2015, 09:54:36 pm »

He will organize them, whip them in to some kind of discipline, make them utterly boring and fundamental and keep them up. He knows his basics well and for once, Sunderland has made a good appointment.

Edit: Villa is still fucked though.

gjr1 · « **Reply #76 on:** October 9, 2015, 10:09:17 pm »

Best move Sunderland could have made. Their best move to try and stay up.

Easy money for Sam.

Phil M · « **Reply #77 on:** October 9, 2015, 10:21:33 pm »

Gutted we missed out on Europe's most underrated and accomplished manager.

I guess we'll have to make do with this German feller.

bird_lfc · « **Reply #78 on:** October 9, 2015, 10:46:29 pm »

he's lost more top flight games than he has won

a winner without winning

Number23 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 9, 2015, 10:49:59 pm »

From the BBC - Allardyce's managerial record:

Team	Games	Win	Draw	Loss	For	Against	Win %
Bolton	226	80	66	80	275	301	35.4
Newcastle	21	7	5	9	27	33	33.33
Blackburn	76	26	21	29	86	108	34.21
West Ham	114	35	28	51	129	151	30.7
Total	437	148	120	169	517	593	33.87

How does he keep getting jobs?