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A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« on: January 25, 2005, 12:27:43 am »
Just a couple of weeks ago I was having a conversation with a Newcastle United fan about how happy we where at Liverpool to have Rafa Benítez as manager. And really, it seemed you'd be hard pushed to find many Liverpool fans disagreeing. And in turn this Newcastle fan was saying to me, how he wished they had a manager of Benítez' pedigree at Newcastle.

What a difference a couple of weeks make. All of a sudden, it's like we've stepped back 12 months in time. It's like our very own version of Groundhog Day. Again we are the most popular topic on the phone ins, as the press lap up Liverpool's miserable spell, and the fans join in and circle in a frenzy.

Recently a frequent retort, anytime Gérard Houllier was being damned was 'fans have such short memories', in reference to a cupboard full of trophies won 2001 and a runners up place in 2002. So now, how on earth can we explain away a terrible affliction affecting some of us - that we can't even remember as far back as a few short weeks, never mind 3 years. Funny ain't it, as we have no problem remembering back 15 / 20 years when we need a stick to beat our managers with.

Up until recently, the press and media have had very little to say about Benítez, which can only be considered a positive. So to go from having so little to say, to declarations that he's no improvement on Houllier and that he's not going to achieve anything, is quite a stretch. And the craziest thing is, it seems many of us start to believe it too. I admit, after the Southampton game I really did wonder what the hell was going on, and why was it I felt as if I'd stepped back in time to last season. It's amazing how quickly we push the panic button, and how quickly we start doubting something or someone we believed in so strongly just a couple of weeks ago.

Of course, there is no need to bury our heads in the sand, and believe everything is well at Casa Anfield. There is no doubt, there are worrying issues that have surfaced recently.

The big concern for me, is how Liverpool don't seem to be able to play successfully against teams who come to battle rather than play football. Versus Watford, Manchester United, Burnley and Southampton, one thing was evident - all these teams pressed Liverpool mercilessly when they where on the ball, giving them no time or space. And despite the fact none of these teams created much in terms of good football, they worked hard to cut out any space that Liverpool wanted to play in.

Whereas against teams, be they good or poor, but who‘s main intention was to play football, Liverpool have tended to play their best games this season. It’s ironic really, as in the last couple of years, we where probably the spoilers, whereas now all of a sudden, our rhythm and ability is the one being hindered. The concern is, we as yet don’t seem to have an answer to it.

The question is though - how Benítez deals with the problems we now face, of barely being able to created a handful of chances in a game, and of being unable to keep possession, due in no small measure of being harried and hassled for 90 minutes. And how he gets players who want more time on the ball - Luis Garcia being a perfect example, to adapt their games. There is no doubt of such players’ talents, and the hope is, that the talent and intelligence they do possess will allow them to adjust.

Another problem which is inexplicable really, is a lack of concentration, which seems to lead to so many avoidable errors. The goals conceded against Burnley, United and Southampton where all down to either stupid errors, or to players wanting more time on the ball, or to players simply getting caught miles out of position. All avoidable, and all things that have to be addressed.

One problem Houllier had, was by the end, he seemed to have run out of ideas of how to change things positively. If a team had 'found Liverpool out' that was it, there wasn't much we could do about it. So the quest for Benítez is to find ways of making this team, whoever the players he has available to him, play in games where they don't get the freedom they may crave. And lets be honest, that's going to be most games from now on, as it's become evident how you stop Liverpool playing. Maybe Benítez is used to being in a league, where even the poorer teams like time on the ball, and don't press so hard. So it's a challenge to him now, to integrate both his ingrained ideas about football, which has brought him great success in Spain, with necessary chances due to the style of the English game. Can he do it? Only time will tell of course.

One thing is certain though, it's going to take him a hell of a lot longer than 6 months. In a way, maybe our positive start under Benítez has heightened the feelings of despair these last couple of weeks. The first 4 months, despite some difficulties away from home was mainly positive despite all the troubles with injuries. It saw us play a lot of good football, where we attacked teams from the start, and created a lot of chances. At that time, it seemed one of our greatest worries was that we didn’t have the depth of squad to have the players to convert these chances. Oh for those worries right now.

It’s hard to pinpoint what has happened the last couple of weeks, apart from the afore mentioned, that teams now feel the best way to neutralise our game, is to press and disrupt our play by any means possible. And as yet, we haven’t figured a way to counter it. The fluidity that we saw earlier in the season, has gone. Some of this is a confidence issue I’m sure, some if it is a player issue, and two players who we miss badly right now are Xabi Alonso and Harry Kewell. Despite Kewell’s lack of form for much of the early season, before his latest injury, he’d been playing well, and his impact during games was starting to show far more positively than it had done for a while. Now we don’t seem to have players who can keep the ball, and who use it intelligently. Even the old faithfulls like Hamann and Gerrard have been afflicted by the disease that most of the team seemed to have last year - that of failing to complete even the simplest of passes.

I sometimes think that the job of Liverpool manager is a bit of a poisoned chalice. The last thing I’m sure most people want to see happen is a continuing of some vicious circle, where we have good spells, followed by a slump, followed by campaigns against the man in charge, urged on by the merciless media. What has happened to Benítez in the last few weeks is like a microcosm of a whole career. From being hailed as the best man possible for the job, and being lauded by the fans after just a few short months, to being doubted as just another coach who hasn't got what it takes. And again, maybe in part we set ourselves up for a fall, by getting carried away, by believing so much in a man who, after all, we don’t yet know that well, as he’s been here for such a short amount of time. But that’s football, and that’s Liverpool, never any half measures. We either worship and admire people, or we don’t.

Sometimes I think you get the best insight from those who don’t support the club. After the Burnley game I was speaking with someone who has been a football fan for close on 40 years. He isn’t a fan of Liverpool, or indeed any other premiership club, but watches a lot of the league, and has a pretty open view on it (despite being married to an United fan ;-) ). He asked me what I thought of Benítez, I told him my thoughts, and that of the fans I knew from going to matches, and how positive it all was. I asked his thoughts, and he simply said he liked the man and he believed him to be an excellent manager from what he‘d seen. But, he went on to say his hope was that Liverpool give him time, as he didn’t believe we’d achieve our set goals for this season, but that in time, as Benítez got adjusted to the league, as he got a squad of good strength, we would be headed in the right direction under him. I had to agree with him.

I feel down about things right now I admit, but like most, it was a managerial change I wanted. The most important thing is to have belief and trust in what the people in charge at the club, be it on the coaching side, or behind the scenes, are trying to do. It’s a rocky ride right now, and may continue to be, but there wasn’t ever going to be a quick fix. The worry is though, is that year by year, patience wears thinner in football.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2005, 06:53:03 am »
Good article Rushian.  Well balanced points that put things into perspective.  I am sure all of us think Benitez was and still is the right man for the job.  His lack of experience of the English game is what seems to be his only downfall at the moment. 

As you said, I think the defeats are harder to take as we are being muscled out of games, something that has not happened to Liverpool in a long time.  It is easy to compare being out battled to showing no commitment or desire, which is something that I and many others did after the defeat on Saturday.

A couple of wins and we will all be happy!  :)
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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2005, 07:28:50 am »
Excellent article

We must give rafa more time. He has had horrendous luk with injuries, yet refuses to use injuries as excuses.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2005, 08:41:36 am »
I agree with your points. In particular, how do we change our style of play against teams who will look to destroy our game.   I've been saying for a while that what took Man Utd and Arsenal to that higher level for a while was their ability to beat teams who had no intention of playing football.  I suppose in a way it got easier for them as all their league games except against each other were pretty much like this.  Maybe this is why Arsenal struggle in European games, they are not used to people trying to play to win.  We have the hard job in that the teams above us and some a bit below us believe they can win and will come out and play, and on the whole we can give them a good game.  Anybody below that looks to destroy the game. Thus we have to be able to use to game plans, hard enough with a full squad.

Also I think it is very hard to judge a coach, especially in a short period of time.  There are perhaps 4 aspects to look at.

1. Transfer market.
This is the most visible and clearly relates to the funds available and the prestige of the club.  How quickly a foriegn manager can adapt to seeing the qualites needed is very important. Luck with injuries plays a part too, a manager might buy some quality forwards, then find when the window is shut he suddenly has an injury crisis at the back.

2. Man management/ Team morale.
Very very hard to asses, how well can a manager get his team fired up. How well can he keep players believing in themselves when they've not been playing well.

3. Tactics / Team selection.
Sometimes a team almost seems to pick itself, this happens when all players are fit and have been on a winning streak, when not it becomes much harder.  It's easy to name a different team after you've watched Liverpool lose, but there's no guarantee it would have been any better.

4. Coaching
How well can a coach improve the players he has.  Again difficult to measure and something that takes time to see. At this level, I doubt a coach improves the technique of individuals a great deal (possibly the head coach leaves that responsibility to others).  A good coach will work on patterns of play with the team. Sometimes this is obvious such as zonal marking, but  at others less obvious, maybe switching attacks down the wings or some such like. 
Rafa clearly has to work on playing against high pressure teams.

With this in mind, unless a manager really screws up on all fronts, you need at least a season to make a fair assement.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2005, 08:45:26 am »
Rushian/GKI Benitez, good read!

Do you mind if I post this on a swedish LFC forum?


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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2005, 09:08:14 am »
Rushian/GKI Benitez, good read!

Do you mind if I post this on a swedish LFC forum?


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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2005, 09:09:50 am »
Good stuff that Rushian, I'm particularly interested in fans swinging between wildly optimistic, and morbidly pessimistic.
I think we've become a volatile bunch these last few years - and that will bring it's own problems.
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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2005, 10:12:09 am »
that's fine with me!

Great, thanks! Some of them need some balanced viewpoints instead of the usual media-inspired moaning and knee-jerk reactions :wave

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2005, 10:41:36 am »
Fantastic post.  Great read

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2005, 11:32:02 am »


great post.

it cant be good for overall morale, if  certain fans are this impatient.
what i like about alonso and finnan is that they dont get rattled when being pressed. cool heads have been absent of late.
would like javier bardem to do the coin tosses at anfield

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2005, 01:18:53 pm »
Very good points Rushian. Patience and belief is what is required from the fans at the moment.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2005, 03:05:08 pm »
You have hit the nail on the head with your post. We have strayed from the football Rafa was getting us to play, this last month or so. I first witnessed it at Everton when we tried to play them at their game. Since then, mainly due to injuries I feel Rafa hasn't helped himself by tinkering a little too much. However, he has to get those players we have available up for the challenge. We can't be out-hustled or hurried on the pitch, instead we have to start controlling games. Only confidence will help us to start doing these things again. A win tonight could turn around the negatives we have all been shocked with the past few weeks. The good thing about it I guess is the league in general is filled with inconsistant teams. Our loss against Soton looked damning then low and behold Everton lose at home, Boro throw away a 3 goal lead and Spurs are trounced. This season is going to be one of damage control and survival and hopefully next year the Rafulution can get back on track.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2005, 06:08:54 pm »
Great post and a good read  :wave

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2005, 08:47:28 pm »
its ridiculous to even be discussing rafa at this stage of his management..;
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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2005, 10:31:51 pm »
lovely read.

Yep.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2005, 11:55:53 pm »
Fine post Rushian. What I was crying out for after recent performances was a "back to basics" game and I hope tonight was just what the doctor ordered. Hopefully it's onwards and upwards from here.
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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2005, 05:59:13 am »
excellent read!  it would be very sad - and a bit suicidal methinks - if the manager - and I believe Rafa is a fine one - is not afforded with the time, patience and support to do his job.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2005, 07:00:07 am »
Great read. I back Rafa 100%.


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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2005, 09:27:29 pm »
We havn't had any decent 'time on the ball' for several seasons. And the fact that we have been on tv so much (endlessly) recently is starting to seriously irritate me from a footballing perspective.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2005, 04:37:49 pm »
In our case, a week seems a long time; I know I was pretty happy with 9 points from 4 over the hols.  Then came ManU and Jerzy's blunder, and we were in trouble.  Rafa then made reasonable decisions on selection, but they didn’t come off.

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Presumably dropping Alonso for Diao was Rafa trying to adapt to the physical game he knew he would be facing.  Seemed like we were trying to play Everton's game - , without the players being used to/equipped to match the Blues at it. 

We're still along way from establishing a real game plan, with all the injuries.  Few of us want to dump Benitez, and this was always likely to be a dificult season, but finishing outside the CL places remains all too possible.  Difficult to play a passing game without your playmaker, or score goals without your CF, but managers live or die by results; GH got .little sympathy for last year' injury problems  and 'failing' to get 4th will be a problem for Rafa.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #20 on: February 7, 2005, 05:33:10 pm »
Very well written synopsis R. Have to agree with what you say.
One of the great things about rafa is he does things logically and in stages. Rather than come in and do a Harry redknap in the TM, he decided to see who he could get more out of by giving them real chances. I know all the dross got a good run out under GH but there never seemed to be any real plan or tactics other than the obvious ones.
With Rafa, you get a real sense that he's trying to implement a system which only requires players to follow SPECIFIC instructions. This way, we get a really clear picture of who's actually capable of doing a job (and saving us a pile of cash) and whos not.
If a player consistently fails to follow orders (josemi-positional, dudek/traore-errors) they will be disgarded in place of someone who CAN do whats asked. In this whole process, hopefully, and evidentially, you unearth a little bit of talent (again as with traore, playing undoubtedly his finest season for us) and if nothing else, increase the demand/value of that player.
Rafa seems like a pretty thourough, non wastefull manager, not the kind who will buy someone off the back of a few beta-max videos, he really does care for the club on every level.
Rafa's plan is a long one, :wave and may not bear fruit in the short term, BUT i have every faith that LFC will be a very strong force in european football in the not too distant future.

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2005, 08:56:51 pm »
i think the guy needs at least two more years to estabilish us as number one he is trying to build his own side but still has a lot of shite he inherited its annoying to listen to our fans slag him of after not even a season at the helm

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Re: A month is a long time at Liverpool for Benitez
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2005, 09:55:48 pm »
Good post Rushian
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