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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #520 on: March 22, 2017, 12:37:19 pm »
Also with Agger, how many appearances did he make where if it weren't because he was up to his eyeballs on painkillers he wouldn't have been passed fit?

As much as I'd love to see Sturridge return and return like a man possessed I'd rather the guy not have to jeopardise his health to do it.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #521 on: March 22, 2017, 12:59:03 pm »
Some cited it as a reason that perhaps a move to London would be attractive to him and I posted some pictures in response to "lives under the radar, family man, blah blah" nonsense.

I don't see why posting those pictures were necessary unless it was a dig, really.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #522 on: March 22, 2017, 01:01:34 pm »
I don't see why posting those pictures were necessary unless it was a dig, really.
a dig at the posters silly comment rather than at daniel, read the accompanying text.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #523 on: March 22, 2017, 02:06:41 pm »
The lad has selective memory. Well said

Funnily enough Sakho had a similar injury record here but it's never used to bash him.  Its just an unfortunate thing that some players are injury prone. Suarez is trotted out as a lad who never goes to the treatment room. Could be because he never gets injured.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #524 on: March 22, 2017, 02:16:23 pm »
Studge should be held up on a pedestal as an example of people thinking they know intricate details of a footballers life, personality and ambition through rumour, twitter, photos and out of context quotes. Goes out too much, doesn't play if he feels a twinge because he feels that's god telling him not to play, spends too much time with rappers, doesn't play through pain, isn't arsed, outsider, quiet, shy, arrogant, not motivated to play for Liverpool etc etc etc etc.

I swear with the amount of highly qualified psychoanalysts, psychiatrists, physios, behavioural analysts, business gurus and football scouts we have on this forum if we ever wanted to buy the club we'd have no problem.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #525 on: March 22, 2017, 02:19:51 pm »
You forgot body language experts.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #526 on: March 22, 2017, 02:39:15 pm »
Studge should be held up on a pedestal as an example of people thinking they know intricate details of a footballers life, personality and ambition through rumour, twitter, photos and out of context quotes. Goes out too much, doesn't play if he feels a twinge because he feels that's god telling him not to play, spends too much time with rappers, doesn't play through pain, isn't arsed, outsider, quiet, shy, arrogant, not motivated to play for Liverpool etc etc etc etc.

I swear with the amount of highly qualified psychoanalysts, psychiatrists, physios, behavioural analysts, business gurus and football scouts we have on this forum if we ever wanted to buy the club we'd have no problem.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #527 on: March 22, 2017, 04:23:24 pm »

I swear with the amount of highly qualified psychoanalysts, psychiatrists, physios, behavioural analysts, business gurus and football scouts we have on this forum if we ever wanted to buy the club we'd have no problem.
Not forgetting people with eyes and a basic grasp of reality.

and what about our ex captain, club and international team mate of Sturridge who questioned his motivation to play with slight knocks? surely someone who knows the intricacies of our football club and the way things work at a top club, surely his comments hold some weight?

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #528 on: March 22, 2017, 04:49:41 pm »
I dont hold any weight to Gerrard's comments, Daniel Sturridge has his own body, everyone has a different threshold of pain, everyones body is different. So unless he is in the mind of Daniel and knows exactly how he feels, he knows fuck all like yourself.


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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #529 on: March 22, 2017, 04:58:58 pm »
I dont hold any weight to Gerrard's comments, Daniel Sturridge has his own body, everyone has a different threshold of pain, everyones body is different. So unless he is in the mind of Daniel and knows exactly how he feels, he knows fuck all like yourself.
The club physio said he was fit to play, but he just needed a little shove in the right direction, because he didn't want to play. After a word from Stevie he played. Interesting you say "in the mind of Daniel" thats exactly part of the problem.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #530 on: March 22, 2017, 05:00:46 pm »
Not forgetting people with eyes and a basic grasp of reality.

and what about our ex captain, club and international team mate of Sturridge who questioned his motivation to play with slight knocks? surely someone who knows the intricacies of our football club and the way things work at a top club, surely his comments hold some weight?

http://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Biographies-Memoirs/My-Story-Audiobook/B015JMEBDU/ref=a_search_c4_1_1_srTtl?qid=1443716627&sr=1-1

Do you have an audible link to those Gerrard comments?
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #531 on: March 22, 2017, 05:02:09 pm »
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #532 on: March 22, 2017, 06:12:03 pm »
The club physio said he was fit to play, but he just needed a little shove in the right direction, because he didn't want to play. After a word from Stevie he played. Interesting you say "in the mind of Daniel" thats exactly part of the problem.

Him being fearful,paranoid about being injured or being reinjured does not equal to him not wanting to play nor does it warrant him to get critisized like he has been.

Which is my original point. If your inclined to believe that Daniel would rather not play than be on the pitch scoring goals winning trophies and matches then thats your delusional prerogative

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #533 on: March 22, 2017, 06:44:48 pm »
Him being fearful,paranoid about being injured or being reinjured does not equal to him not wanting to play nor does it warrant him to get critisized like he has been.

Which is my original point. If your inclined to believe that Daniel would rather not play than be on the pitch scoring goals winning trophies and matches then thats your delusional prerogative

There has to be something additional though, there has to be something sinister and psychiatric behind it. It cant just be that Danny is one of the unlucky footballers who just get injured a lot more than others. Did Spurs fans constantly question Ledley Kings desire, attitude, psyche etc? Its just one of those things.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #534 on: March 22, 2017, 07:16:34 pm »
There has to be something additional though, there has to be something sinister and psychiatric behind it. It cant just be that Danny is one of the unlucky footballers who just get injured a lot more than others. Did Spurs fans constantly question Ledley Kings desire, attitude, psyche etc? Its just one of those things.

I think King had a pretty valid reason not be available every week, i'm pretty sure he had fuck all cartilage in his knees, so he was in constant pain...which was why he rarely trained but the inflammation would subside given enough time between matches.

Daniel Sturridge is made of the same stuff as Amir Khan's jaw.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #535 on: March 22, 2017, 07:25:43 pm »
A top half team will deff take him on loan if we pay part of his wages. If he can stay fit hes a great squad player but hes not the type of player you depend on or build your team around. If a team takes him as their number one striker they will be in trouble like we were in 14-15 onwards.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #536 on: March 22, 2017, 08:01:46 pm »
I think King had a pretty valid reason not be available every week, i'm pretty sure he had fuck all cartilage in his knees, so he was in constant pain...which was why he rarely trained but the inflammation would subside given enough time between matches.

Daniel Sturridge is made of the same stuff as Amir Khan's jaw.

Yeah again Steady Eddie, wasn't intended to raise a debate around who is more legitimately injured. They're both injury prone players, it happens. They're not the first, won't be the last. We've had enough injury prone strikers to know that it happens, yet this lad is literally the only one CONSTANTLY questioned. Its ridiculous.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #537 on: March 22, 2017, 08:13:31 pm »

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Don't forget the extended 'fam'. Footballers are celebrities, they have famous mates, I have no objections to that. I do have objections to footballers who are never fit to play football and people who rewrite history to fit an irrelevant point, as long as you deliver the goods on the pitch, no one cares what life you lead off of it.

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Them photos, are they of famous people? I literally only recognise Daniel. The rest look more Ali G than Ali G.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #538 on: March 22, 2017, 08:21:35 pm »
Don't forget the extended 'fam'. Footballers are celebrities, they have famous mates, I have no objections to that. I do have objections to footballers who are never fit to play football and people who rewrite history to fit an irrelevant point, as long as you deliver the goods on the pitch, no one cares what life you lead off of it.



Them photos, are they of famous people? I literally only recognise Daniel. The rest look more Ali G than Ali G.

Fucking hell I must be getting old.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #539 on: March 22, 2017, 08:41:04 pm »
You don't recognise Usain Bolt?

Oh him I do. But none of the others who seem very into the whole scissors/paper/stone thing.

I recognise your username, too. From the best album they have done to this day. :)
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #540 on: March 22, 2017, 09:55:11 pm »
Worked wonders for Scott Sinclair and Brendan's there, although that would require Sturridge taking a massive pay-cut to go to Scotland. 

If he really is to leave, then he has to go to a place where they have a ludicrous amount of patience to deal with him being sidelined or a world class injury record. ;D
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #541 on: March 22, 2017, 10:48:32 pm »
If Sturridge leaves this summer, which I think is almost certainly going to happen, it'll be another sad case of a talented player hitting his peak at Liverpool with nothing to show for it in terms of major trophies. It's happened a few times in recent years. 13/14 was Sturridge's best ever season, Torres unquestionably hit his peak here, Mascherano was amongst the best in the world at the time and I'm not sure if we saw Suarez's personal peak but his performances were certainly the best I've ever witnessed from a Liverpool forward.

Might be verging slightly off-topic here. You may disagree or you might even think it's not a big deal and that it happens at all clubs.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #542 on: March 22, 2017, 11:08:06 pm »
If Sturridge leaves this summer, which I think is almost certainly going to happen, it'll be another sad case of a talented player hitting his peak at Liverpool with nothing to show for it in terms of major trophies. It's happened a few times in recent years. 13/14 was Sturridge's best ever season, Torres unquestionably hit his peak here, Mascherano was amongst the best in the world at the time and I'm not sure if we saw Suarez's personal peak but his performances were certainly the best I've ever witnessed from a Liverpool forward.

Might be verging slightly off-topic here. You may disagree or you might even think it's not a big deal and that it happens at all clubs.

Sturridge's "peak" here was pretty brief, to be fair. A year and a half maybe, and then the rest was constant injury interspersed with the odd goal.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #543 on: March 22, 2017, 11:49:02 pm »
Sturridge's "peak" here was pretty brief, to be fair. A year and a half maybe, and then the rest was constant injury interspersed with the odd goal.

He probably hit his peak with Chelsea, and then had another year and a half of it with us.

I'm not arsed to be honest. He came at a time when we were not at all good. It was always going to be a matter of developing the squad over a number of years. We didn't get there in the 1.5 years where he was good. After that, he was past his peak. The upsetting part for me about this is that he ultimately (though not for a lack of willingness) couldn't repay our faith in him coming good.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #544 on: April 3, 2017, 06:07:20 pm »
Is he likely to be back anytime soon? If Mane is out even for a bit - we could use him to at least be on the bench.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #545 on: April 3, 2017, 06:29:45 pm »
He's been injured and ineffective for so long people seem to forget how talented he is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbbBeJhNG_k

If he's sold in the summer I doubt we'll sign a more talented replacement, hopefully he can get fit and still contribute this season.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #546 on: April 3, 2017, 06:30:26 pm »
Is he likely to be back anytime soon? If Mane is out even for a bit - we could use him to at least be on the bench.

He's back in full training

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #547 on: April 3, 2017, 06:31:11 pm »
Looks like he's back in full training. Just imagine if we somehow find a way to get him firing again, he would be exactly and precisely what we need against the dross we'll face till the end of the season.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #548 on: April 3, 2017, 06:31:30 pm »
Sturridge is alive?!

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #550 on: April 3, 2017, 07:03:55 pm »
Looks like he's back in full training. Just imagine if we somehow find a way to get him firing again, he would be exactly and precisely what we need against the dross we'll face till the end of the season.

If we did, we'd surely finish top 4, it's a big if though

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #551 on: April 3, 2017, 07:04:16 pm »
Looks like he's back in full training. Just imagine if we somehow find a way to get him firing again, he would be exactly and precisely what we need against the dross we'll face till the end of the season.


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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #552 on: April 3, 2017, 07:24:54 pm »
8 games before season end and I think it is too little too late. Ignore the fact whether those injuries are serious or just a weak mind, how could a manager trust an injury prone player? He will need a few weeks to get back the fitness and then another few games to regain match sharpness which by the the season is already over.

Sometimes it's just bad luck for both sides. I don't think the club owes him anything and vice versa.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #553 on: April 3, 2017, 07:28:48 pm »
21 appearances for the club so far, with a maximum of 29 total.

4 and a half seasons at liverpool and only played 30+ games once.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #554 on: April 3, 2017, 10:09:50 pm »
21 appearances for the club so far, with a maximum of 29 total.

4 and a half seasons at liverpool and only played 30+ games once.

yeah....but... if he fires us to the title this year will you forgive him?

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #555 on: April 4, 2017, 12:11:12 am »
yeah....but... if he fires us to the title this year will you forgive him?

Oh absolutely, but the chances of that happening are minimum.

Also next season he shouldn't be anywhere near the team, unless it's a substitute.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #556 on: April 4, 2017, 01:06:13 am »
He'll get game time,  goals and glory in the last games of this season.  Then he'll be our number one striker for years to come.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #557 on: April 4, 2017, 01:39:32 am »
He'll get game time,  goals and glory in the last games of this season.  Then he'll be our number one striker for years to come.

Youb crazy

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #558 on: April 4, 2017, 02:29:45 am »
Youb crazy

Haha,  maybe.  I actually hope that does happen but sadly don't think it will.  He's pretty clinical when he's fit. 

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #559 on: April 4, 2017, 03:29:19 am »
Haha,  maybe.  I actually hope that does happen but sadly don't think it will.  He's pretty clinical when he's fit. 

I think we all agree Sturridge can be world class when he's fit. He's never fit though, hasn't been for 4 years.