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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2720 on: March 1, 2012, 09:37:34 am »
This is slightly off topic, but I'm having an argument with a friend about Suarez-gate and promised him to show him the article where the Uruguayan linguist analyzed the FA evidence, and said it was essentially very unlikely that a Spanish speaker would say those words. Does anyone still have that link handy?

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2722 on: March 1, 2012, 09:50:24 am »
Seems a real shame when a group like OBV which could do so much good in these troubled times feel it is necessary to waste their time on something so daft.
That's the sad state were in. Posturing like this by OBV is used as evidence of how the anti racism message is over the top and furthermore taints ALL anti racist work as being overreacting to 'normal behaviour' that is morally anything but.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2723 on: March 1, 2012, 09:52:29 am »
wow, what a load of absolute bollocks..  :butt

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2724 on: March 1, 2012, 09:59:59 am »
I've just read the article and it sounds like another case of pc madness. And some clown with nothing better to do than get sensitive over an ad in another country.

Sorry, I think it's a bit more sinister than that. I suspect OBV invest their energy this way in order to promote themselves. In fact, I'll go further - their entire raison d'etre is self promotion and all the accrued benefits which go with a high profile.
They don't actually give a shit about:

  • Racism - otherwise you'd see them organising genuine campaigns against the likes of the BNP and EDL. I've not seen them on the streets facing down these thugs, that's been left to the genuine anti racist / anti nazi groups. They don't care that their behaviour damages the fight against the cancer that is racism.

    Adverts on Spanish TV. They're a British based group. Call me cynical, but I suspect they're actively looking out for LFC in the media, and seeing where they can manufacture a racist angle.

    LFC, they just spot a bandwagon and hop right on.

As long as they can milk it, they'll keep on and on at LFC, no matter what we do. Frankly, the only thing that can stop them in their tracks is organised opposition from genuine anti racist groups - only the genuine groups will have genuine grass roots support. Once they expose the racket the posturers are in a much weaker position.
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2725 on: March 1, 2012, 10:02:35 am »
Fuck off you boring bastards is there nothing else going on in the world? And whats a spanish advert got to do with english people anyway?

Exactly.  It's not even racist! It's such a naff advert it's almost comical. That's all. ..and another thing, if we carry on freaking out like this, no spanish speaking footballer would want to play in ingerland.
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2726 on: March 1, 2012, 10:10:29 am »
These groups are so pathetic, not only do they make real anti-racism activists look like a bunch of idiots which obviously, the proper groups are not but it's a pathetic claim.

Did they complain when the Africa WC advert, featuring players like Lampard & Messi, wearing tribal paint to depict the host continent as racist, after all it implied that all black people from Africa are tribal, face/bodypaint wearing people...right?

Wrong. It's an advert. Stop being a bunch of c*nts.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2727 on: March 1, 2012, 10:20:11 am »
When will it fucking end! This would have never been picked up by the press if another player had been involved but because its a liverpool player they see fit to try and damage us even more. Get to fuck you jumped up c*nts.


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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2728 on: March 1, 2012, 10:29:49 am »
Every time these twats cry racism when there's none, they undermine the real fight against racism.

This "Reina in race row" is all over the place already. It's beyond stupid that Pepe might have his reputation damaged over this.
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2729 on: March 1, 2012, 10:44:17 am »
Making an absolute mockery of the core issue of racism.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2730 on: March 1, 2012, 10:57:24 am »
This shit has got to stop. Hopefully Pepe is having a word with his lawyers before Holt and the other fuckwits start pushing their agenda driven drivel.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2731 on: March 1, 2012, 10:59:35 am »
This is absolutely preposterous.  Reina is the object of the joke in the advert.  His name, as they say, roughly means Queen in spanish and that's what the joke is on.  I can't believe that anyone a) is calling that racist or b) inferring that Reina is himself in any way racist.  Shit like this is so counter productive to the anti racism cause.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2732 on: March 1, 2012, 11:01:34 am »
Are Operation Black vote actually spanish or are they UK based?.... please don't tell me they're UK based...

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2733 on: March 1, 2012, 11:02:59 am »
Are Operation Black vote actually spanish or are they UK based?.... please don't tell me they're UK based...

Yep they are UK based. So what they have in fact done is used us and an advertisement not broadcast in this country to try and bring themselves publicity. Thankfully this will die out soon enough but its a worry trend.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2734 on: March 1, 2012, 11:06:52 am »
Reina isn't racist, or a queen.  He is our superstar goalkeeper!  Everyone is jealous thats all.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2735 on: March 1, 2012, 11:08:03 am »
Yep they are UK based. So what they have in fact done is used us and an advertisement not broadcast in this country to try and bring themselves publicity. Thankfully this will die out soon enough but its a worry trend.

If that's the case its pretty despicable.  I feel like writing them an email of complaint only I fear that even the most sensitively worded email would be labelled racist...

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2736 on: March 1, 2012, 11:10:18 am »
If that's the case its pretty despicable.  I feel like writing them an email of complaint only I fear that even the most sensitively worded email would be labelled racist...

Don't write it in black then, you racist.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2737 on: March 1, 2012, 11:11:12 am »
Don't write it in black then, you racist.

you would prefer he wrote it in white on black, would you?

despicable.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2738 on: March 1, 2012, 11:11:59 am »
Is there nothing we can do about this? Can we not highlight the rank hypocrisy of the media reporting it? Can the club not release a statement to shoot down this pathetic attempt to sully our name? Or will we just bend over and take it like we always do.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2739 on: March 1, 2012, 11:20:14 am »
Time to stop worrying about all this nonsense.

What does it matter to us if some idiot thinks this advert is racist or homophobic or anything else - personally I couldn't give a damn what they think.

Unfortunately there are some idiots about who are ultra pc, who look for any little excuse to have a moan and try and make themselves look good because of it.  Don't make these people more important than they are by discussing it or letting it bother you, they really aren't worth it.

Let them get on with it, we have more important thing to be discussing - like football, Stevie's injury, our next game, Kenny's latest words and whether Pepe really should be shaving his armpits :)
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2741 on: March 1, 2012, 12:02:33 pm »
I watched like three or four reina ads... they are hilarious... cant get the tune out of my head --- Me siento seguro - lalalalala ----

and btw people should be ashamed to even think that its racist... the world has gone mad and racism is a term which is kind of over used  and some people are just pure idiots...

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2742 on: March 1, 2012, 12:03:46 pm »
Absurd reaction. Just another stick to (try) and beat LFC with  ::)

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2743 on: March 1, 2012, 12:06:16 pm »
Joke the way this is all carrying on.
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2744 on: March 1, 2012, 12:11:43 pm »
You have got to be fucking kidding me :butt


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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2745 on: March 1, 2012, 12:39:58 pm »
feel like going round and slapping all of these c*nts...in fact I might just do
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2746 on: March 1, 2012, 12:48:18 pm »
the Club should build up a legal team who would care about our players and the Club.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2747 on: March 1, 2012, 12:50:59 pm »
It needs people who talk some sense on the issue ie John Barnes to come out and say groups like this are putting the racism issue back years
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2748 on: March 1, 2012, 12:52:00 pm »
It needs people who talk some sense on the issue ie John Barnes to come out and say groups like this are putting the racism issue back years

You're probably right.

Because they only alternative is people get a sense of fucking perspective... and that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2749 on: March 1, 2012, 12:59:41 pm »
We should chant 'siempre seguros, la la la la la' on Saturday.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2750 on: March 1, 2012, 01:05:12 pm »
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2751 on: March 1, 2012, 01:21:07 pm »
Unfortunately a lot of white people have taken on the viewpoint that the only way to prove you aren't a bigot is to act like you're offended by everything. There's no way anybody could watch this video and cringe the way you do when you witness actual racism.
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2752 on: March 1, 2012, 01:29:20 pm »
Even Mancs don't think this is anything to get upset about, so that just shows you how fucking pathetic it is.

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2753 on: March 1, 2012, 01:31:48 pm »
Im glad that we've moved on in this country at least.

I still shudder when I think of those beastly, despicable Oxo ads that characterise all white people as middle class

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2754 on: March 1, 2012, 01:32:34 pm »
The fella who has made the complaint Simon Woolley is a Man U season ticket holder.
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2755 on: March 1, 2012, 01:34:37 pm »
:lmao :lmao :lmao

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2756 on: March 1, 2012, 01:36:49 pm »
I would be upset if the club apologizes for something so completely trivial.

The newspapers can have their hits for the next couple of days, driven by ridiculous headlines. But we'd hope that people should quickly start asking what all the fuss is about. I can understand people not wanting to read 115 pages but I expect they'll watch a 20 second ad.
Surely, the public at large isn't this stupid.
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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2757 on: March 1, 2012, 01:41:57 pm »
Call me daft but am i missing something here?!

I've watched that clip about 6 times and I'm still scratching my head as to what part of the advert is racist or in fact depicting anything homosexual?

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Re: Jose Manuel Reina
« Reply #2759 on: March 1, 2012, 01:44:46 pm »
Just saw the ad (some of the others had me chuckling). It's corny, but the only person portrayed as gay was the leader, why on earth does the OBV assume that all the black actors are portraying gay people (the translator definitely seems uncomfortable with the forced marriage).

I think the OBV are a bit oversensitive to homosexuality, bordering on paranoid. Possibly homophobic or suppressed.

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