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Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« on: June 20, 2006, 11:31:02 am »
Weaselly and rat-like in appearance, Craig Bellamy is one of those players opposing fans love to hate. But judging by the comments made by Newcastle and Blackburn fans on their various fora, he's a player fans love to have in their team.

Most fans have in mind the kind of idealised character they'd like to see at Liverpool. However it's also true that we cannot expect all footballers to be saints. They are often flawed individuals, like a lot of young men.

It's notable that Benítez has bought players like Xabi Alonso and Peter Crouch – dedicated professionals, and men no one has a bad word to say about. Good, honest people. But Rafa also brought back Robbie Fowler, whose reputation in his younger years was certainly not saintly. Has Fowler matured? It certainly seems so.

And that's the crux: players mature – mentally and emotionally, and in terms of talent. Frank Lampard was not pulling up trees at 24; nor, to be honest, was Jamie Carragher. Peter Crouch wasn't even on the radar.

Bellamy has always been an exciting player, but he has finally become a very potent one. A very good footballer has turned top-class. It happened to Lampard and Carragher at a similar age – 26 – and while I'm not saying Bellamy is quite at their level, he's about to play in the best team he'll ever have experienced, and under the best manager. His level should go up another notch.

He was a foolish young man, but no man should have to be judged on what they were like as a youngster for the rest of his life – unless the crimes were unforgivable. The evidence appears to show that Bellamy is maturing, and causing less friction wherever he goes, but he's never going to trouble the entry panel at MENSA.

Beggars cannot be choosers. Liverpool are not cash struck, but the Cissé injury massively complicates the summer spending. Available for just £6.5m, turning down an effective attacking force like Bellamy – a Liverpool fan, to boot – would be like looking looking a gift horse in the mouth (and no, this is not a reference to a cut-price Ruud van Nistelrooy).

Liverpool need pace in the attack, especially with Cissé first due to be sold, then laid up with a second horrific leg break. What Bellamy offers – and which too often evades Cissé – is control of the ball when running at pace.

He's also better at using his pace in tight areas, from a standing start. When breaking, Bellamy can move through the gears without either leaving the ball behind or having to knock it 40 yards ahead. While he doesn't enjoy playing there, Bellamy is also good in wide areas; that doesn't mean he has to be there for 90 minutes of a match, but can drift out there, like Thierry Henry.

Bellamy is a winner. He's a niggardy bastard, a little runt who looks absolutely no fun to play against. Like a lot of winners, he can go too far; he gets carried away. But Man United didn't do too bad in the '90s with Cantona, Keane and Gary Neville: winners I absolutely detested.

Most importantly, Bellamy will complement the two main strikers already at the club. Between them, the £13m Rafa will have spent on Bellamy (if it goes through), Crouch and Fowler gives the manager goals, pace, height, skill and 'game intelligence', and does so at great value for money. None can be considered a world-class individual – at least not since Fowler was in his pomp – but it's about combinations that exceed the sum of their parts. And it's about effectiveness.

I still think Crouch is a 20-goal-a-season player. Not necessarily 20 league goals – that's reserved for the real predators – but his record in recent years suggests he's edging up to 20 in all competitions. And that's more than enough, if he's helping Gerrard to bomb forward and score 20+, and if he's partnered with someone who can score different types of goals, and do so in abundance.

The difficult start Crouch had at Liverpool will not be repeated. He might have barren spells, but the first barren spell is always the hardest to break, as it's the one where you are having to prove yourself. His England goal ratio is up there with the best in the world; okay, it's on a very limited sample, but six in nine is not to be sneezed at.

Crouch gets compared to Emile Heskey – that Liverpool striker who never quite weighed in with enough goals – and yet it took Heskey 43 games to get his six England goals. Heskey had one prolific season in a red shirt, but Crouch has a bit more nous in his finishing.

I can't wait to see what shape Robbie Fowler will be in after a summer spent looking after himself and a pre-season being put through his paces by Pako Ayesteran. Fowler's missed so much football over the years, but then that could be a blessing – had he played as regularly as he was doing in his late teens, he may be burned out, and his knees a mess from all the added impact.

For me, Fowler could yet be the biggest bonus of next season. While you can rely on him for goals if chances come his way, you (surely?) cannot rely on him for 90 minutes over each of 60 games. He's an unknown quantity in that regard. He's missed too many pre-seasons in his time, and that's the one part of the year a player cannot afford to miss. But fit and raring to go, who knows how close he can get to the player we all adored a decade ago?

The summer's events seem to leave space for one more striker, but if Bellamy is added, that will cover all the important 'bases' with regard to the qualities that any strikeforce needs. That will leave more flexibility in picking the final striking addition.

But it's too early to say who will be first choice; for a start, Rafa rotates. Sometimes he plays one up front, other times two. Then there's the form of the players, and the opposition in question.

What's clear is that he now has 'possibilities'...

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2006, 11:42:34 am »
Villa. Both would do well I reckon.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2006, 11:42:47 am »
Good read.

PS: "He's a niggardy bastard"....Racist :P

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2006, 11:48:42 am »
Good read.

PS: "He's a niggardy bastard"....Racist :P



What does that mean any way??

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2006, 11:52:33 am »
What does that mean any way??


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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2006, 11:54:48 am »
What does that mean any way??

He's a c*nt ;)
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2006, 12:01:28 pm »
Great read Paul lad  ;)
I believe that Kuyt will be the next striker through the door, but, don't rule Owen out just yet especially if we get new investment.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2006, 12:07:58 pm »
There is no doubting Bellamy's talent,pace,aggression and eye for goal. What we all hold our breath about is his reaction to being played out of position, not starting every game, his interaction with his new teammates on the training pitch and in the dressing room, and his extracurricular activities away from football. Here's hoping he has matured for at £6million its a premiership steal!
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2006, 12:08:09 pm »
Paul, I was just looking at your website, http://www.paultomkins.com/ ,and noticed the "Red Review" title.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2006, 12:11:00 pm »
Good read Paul.

Can't wait to see the welsh c*nt bastard lad pull on a red shirt.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2006, 12:16:59 pm »
Good read.

PS: "He's a niggardy bastard"....Racist :P



Racist, like Bellamy, if you believe what you read.

Class player though, the sort of player we need right now.

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2006, 12:19:14 pm »
Yep great read. Bellamy's going to offer us 'possibilities, for sure.' I just hope the deal goes through now.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2006, 12:24:04 pm »
I want Bellamy. For one I want us to buy a player who might be abit naughty but still does his work!

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2006, 12:25:02 pm »
Bellamy is a winner. He's a niggardy bastard, a little runt who looks absolutely no fun to play against. Like a lot of winners, he can go too far; he gets carried away. But Man United didn't do too bad in the '90s with Cantona, Keane and Gary Neville: winners I absolutely detested.


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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2006, 12:28:08 pm »
Alves and Bellamy so far this summer, good stuff from Rafa.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2006, 12:28:28 pm »
Top read Paul.

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2006, 12:30:48 pm »
Worried about this potential signing.....

Bellamy has been a hateful little prick for all his previous clubs and possessed the 'I'm better than everyone else attitude' (although I laughed my bollocks off at the text messages to Shearer). He's not going to be the best player at our beloved club by a country mile so I hope the ego's reined in.

But also his injury record has been pretty poor over the years; correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember him playing close to a full season for any of his previous clubs.

He could work out and has the potential to do well......but he could also be Rafa's El-Hadji Diouf
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2006, 12:31:26 pm »
i must say, i'm a bit wary about us buying bellamy... true, he's quite a talented player, even when played out of position. Before he got knocked up with shearer, the big guy must have enjoyed the passes made to him thru bellamy... yet, his fiery nature is somewhat... dodgy. fowler no saint, but he never knocked houllier directly, not while he's at the club, at least.

but in some sense, it might be the buy that could give the other strikers the something to be concerned about. i could remember the great reviews that he got while stil playing with norwich (even got him in my CM team, hehe... ). all in all, i just hope that maybe rafa can handle him like what mark hughes did and bring ooout the best in him...

ps. i just got my copy of red revival yesterday.... done with it just now. paul, keep up the great work and be our eyes for those not able to absorb the anfield atmosphere week in, week out!

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2006, 12:32:49 pm »
Paul, I was just looking at your website, http://www.paultomkins.com/ ,and noticed the "Red Review" title.
What's that gonna be like ?


Detailed statistical analysis/breakdown of the past season, plus of those players arriving over the summer. And a bit more...

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2006, 12:35:50 pm »
Alves and Bellamy so far this summer, good stuff from Rafa.

Haven't got Alves yet, i'm glad to see that the Bellamy talks are going ahead.

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2006, 12:37:43 pm »
Villa, Torres(I wish).

I dont like Bellamy, more trouble than he is worth although undoubtedly has some of the qualities we need.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2006, 12:46:34 pm »
Paul, love the last book (got through it in 3 days on holiday last week), gret read but our opinions differ on a number of issues (which is only to be expected, that's football) and I think this may be one of them...

Football wise it's agreat signing, the point about the money cannot be overlooked, but my concern is his attitude.  How is he goingto behave when he doesn't play.  I just have a feeling this post could come back to haaunt you (hope not though!)
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2006, 12:48:22 pm »
Got to admit, I can't wait to see what he might do in the derby.  I predict....carnage.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2006, 12:49:14 pm »
Nice read, Paul. We still need a back-up target man for Crouch - I expect Bellamy and Fowler to fight for the 'goalscorers' striking position and Crouch and another target man to fight it out for the battling, 'creators' position. It certainly won't be Fowler and Bellamy, if this season, with Cisse and Fowler, is anything to go by.

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2006, 12:52:44 pm »
was having dinner at the computer when I read "Bellamy is a winger". I almost put the food down my windpipe. "winner" it said. thanks Paul, good read, as is your new book. I finished it in a couple of afternoons. ;D
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2006, 12:56:10 pm »
I think everyone will have reservations, but as I said in the piece, you have to allow people the scope to change.

The differences to his time at Newcastle, from where his dodgy reputation mostly stems, are that he's coming to a team he supports, and where he will naturally have to accept rotation or being asked to play out wide. The whole culture at Liverpool under Rafa is light years away from the troubles at Newcastle, and there are fewer disruptive players to cause problems with.

Players are more accepting of rotation at a top team competing in the Champions League, especially if they will be rotated in as quickly as they are rotated out. I sense that he'd be more happy out wide, when asked to be, at Liverpool than at Newcastle, who only really had Alan Shearer as a centre forward. I think players are more happy to get into the LFC first XI, wherever they play.

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2006, 12:57:48 pm »
Yes, we cannot fault people for what they did as a youth. 

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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2006, 12:58:30 pm »
Clinton smoked weed as a student.


He "didn't inhale"...  ;)
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2006, 12:59:37 pm »
Bellamy.

My initial reaction was one of nausea. I now think it's a great move; I'm convinced.


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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2006, 01:01:56 pm »
Bellamy.

My initial reaction was one of nausea. I now think it's a great move; I'm convinced.



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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2006, 01:11:06 pm »
I actually like Bellamy for the texts he sent to Shearer. That man thinks he's bigger than God.

And wouldn't u complain if u were left out of a team who were struggling. At Liverpool he will be in a winning team and I can see im taking his place on the bench like anyone else does at Anfield.

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2006, 01:25:23 pm »
I think Bellamy will be the only striker who comes myself.

If we manage to get the other targets we seem to be close to we will be in better shape. Maybe not enough to win the big one but closer.

A Strike force of Crouch, Fowler, Bellamy, FSP may not look on paper to be the best but with Harry and Luis there are plenty of options.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2006, 01:27:04 pm »
I think Bellamy will be the only striker who comes myself.

If we manage to get the other targets we seem to be close to we will be in better shape. Maybe not enough to win the big one but closer.

A Strike force of Crouch, Fowler, Bellamy, FSP may not look on paper to be the best but with Harry and Luis there are plenty of options.

Crouch is the only one who offers us a height option, though. Last season we had Cisse - now 'replaced' by Bellamy - and Morientes - who needs 'replacing', with a similar style player, too.

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2006, 01:33:34 pm »
Crouch is the only one who offers us a height option, though. Last season we had Cisse - now 'replaced' by Bellamy - and Morientes - who needs 'replacing', with a similar style player, too.
with Rafa buying the likes of Bellamy,Gonzalez,Villa?,maybe Crouch is the only 'height' option we'll need, as Rafas plan may be to play the ball along the ground a bit more.
And with Bellamy, what you;ll get which Djib failed to do, is get a player who will harass and close down the oppos defence.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2006, 01:33:38 pm »
Crouch is the only one who offers us a height option, though. Last season we had Cisse - now 'replaced' by Bellamy - and Morientes - who needs 'replacing', with a similar style player, too.

Morientes was replaced by Robbie in Jan. Only one of them was going to be here next season.

On the one hand you have Moro with a great rep with great medals and on the other you have a player who can score goals in the prem.
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2006, 01:35:43 pm »
Guarantee if Bellamy was English he would have been in the England squad for Germany. What everyone is forgettin as well is that he is a very experienced international. Ok not with the best team in the world - but he has scored a number of  goals as well for Wales. I think he has the potential to be a 20 goal a season striker. If he comes and has the propper mental approach I think he will mature into something special. His direct style will cause problems - he is the type of player defenders hate - willing to take people on and with pace - and if he is not scoring/creating goals he is guranteed to win you free kicks around the box. I

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2006, 01:38:42 pm »
Morientes was replaced by Robbie in Jan. Only one of them was going to be here next season.

On the one hand you have Moro with a great rep with great medals and on the other you have a player who can score goals in the prem.

Robbie and Nando aren't similar players. Nando offered us the option of a long ball. Fowler is decent with his back to goal, but he isn't fantastic at holding the ball up. Nor is he brilliant at winning headers, unless the goal is directly in front of him. We need a Dirk Kuijt figure who bustles and does the donkey work as a foil for the likes of Fowler and Bellamy to benefit from. We need somebody who comes with the same sort of reputation as Morientes, but eventually lives up to it.

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2006, 01:42:51 pm »
Robbie and Nando aren't similar players. Nando offered us the option of a long ball. Fowler is decent with his back to goal, but he isn't fantastic at holding the ball up. Nor is he brilliant at winning headers, unless the goal is directly in front of him. We need a Dirk Kuijt figure who bustles and does the donkey work as a foil for the likes of Fowler and Bellamy to benefit from. We need somebody who comes with the same sort of reputation as Morientes, but eventually lives up to it.

May I suggest Peter Crouch to do that job?
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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2006, 01:43:34 pm »
Why does everyone rave on about D Kuijt? Ok his stats look impressive - but so did Kezman. On paper Kezman was amazing - bust was found out when he moved to the Premiership. Playing in Holland is a completely different kettle of fish compared to the high pace, better skilled Premiership. Not done much for Holland so far either in Germany.

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Re: Summer Striking: Bellamy and ...?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2006, 01:44:29 pm »
May I suggest Peter Crouch to do that job?

As I said in my original post - we need a back-up. What if he gets injured? We are left without that option.