Author Topic: See ye later Joe Allen (Read 41654 times)

poopscoop · « **Reply #120 on:** July 27, 2016, 01:40:06 pm »

Best of luck to the lad. It's an aspirational move, he goes to a club billed as the new Charlie Adam.

Curtisinho · « **Reply #121 on:** July 27, 2016, 03:25:07 pm »

I think he's going to really rock at the new Stoke. Sad to see him go but it's obvious that Klopp doesn't fancy him and he deserves to be a starting XI player. What could have been...I still feel he was our best midfielder last season and only continued that form at the Euros. Talent never seemed to be his issue more than health and consistency. Wish we could have found a way for him to stay, but wish him the best except against us!

fannybattersbookclub · « **Reply #122 on:** July 27, 2016, 06:20:30 pm »

With Arnautovic signing a new extended contract for 4 years today and with the signing of Allen, Sobhi and maybe Berahino, I think Stoke City will have a very good season.

Tony19:6 · « **Reply #123 on:** July 27, 2016, 09:18:51 pm »

If he stays injury free he will be Stokes Player of the Year.

Good luck Joe

whiteboots · « **Reply #124 on:** July 28, 2016, 08:52:10 am »

He has done a decent job for us and leaves, I think, with the best wishes of most Reds.

I think that he is more likely to shine in a Stoke side aiming for eighth than a Liverpool side aiming to crack the top four.

Good luck.

10 years on · « **Reply #125 on:** August 18, 2016, 11:19:18 pm »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/18/joe-allen-i-found-out-from-friends-text-i-was-leaving-liverpool/

Bit small time that, didn't even have any proper contract talks with him?

LallanaInPyjamas · « **Reply #126 on:** August 18, 2016, 11:23:44 pm »

Very strange if true, can't see why he'd lie. I guess the bid was earlier than expected and too good for a player in the last year of his contract to delay any response.

Still, suggests a lack of leadership somewhere. With Klopp away at that point too (I think?), who represents us behind the scenes?!

DangerScouse · « **Reply #127 on:** August 18, 2016, 11:28:30 pm »

Very disappointed to read that. Would expect that from a club like Chelsea.

10 years on · « **Reply #128 on:** August 18, 2016, 11:29:47 pm »

Quote from: bcurtis92 on August 18, 2016, 11:23:44 pm

Very strange if true, can't see why he'd lie. I guess the bid was earlier than expected and too good for a player in the last year of his contract to delay any response.

Still, suggests a lack of leadership somewhere. With Klopp away at that point too (I think?), who represents us behind the scenes?!

Ayre isn't it, or has he gone already?

Shepnois · « **Reply #129 on:** August 18, 2016, 11:44:29 pm »

Could that happen?! Would Stoke bid for Allen without any indication that he would be willing to join them? What was his agent up to? we all knew he was being sold this summer. Seems a bit odd.

Bend It Like Aurelio · « **Reply #130 on:** August 19, 2016, 04:54:36 am »

Quote from: bcurtis92 on August 18, 2016, 11:23:44 pm

Very strange if true, can't see why he'd lie. I guess the bid was earlier than expected and too good for a player in the last year of his contract to delay any response.

Still, suggests a lack of leadership somewhere. With Klopp away at that point too (I think?), who represents us behind the scenes?!

The thing is though, we don't know who leaked the accepted bid. Nowadays agents do try to get the best contract for their clients by announcing early that a team is interested in their services, hoping for more bids to come in before the end.

Or maybe it did leak from our end. Who knows. But still, Allen is just class.

Dench57 · « **Reply #131 on:** August 19, 2016, 11:26:05 am »

This is shit.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #132 on:** October 2, 2016, 01:52:26 pm »

Nice swan lid

penga · « **Reply #133 on:** October 2, 2016, 02:09:03 pm »

Well in wee Joe

!

Does anyone think he could actually play the role Gini is playing for us now? Since Klopp came he was played further forward in the midfield and actually started chipping in with a few important goals while knitting the play nicely. Now at Stoke they've obviously not been doing well but the manager says he's the shining light of the team (Jesus reference

) again he's been getting into good positions with Stoke with more freedom and popping up with a couple of goals. He's not as physically strong or fast as Gini but he is better defensively and tougher in the tackle while having similar ball skills with passing and receiving.

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #134 on:** October 2, 2016, 05:32:49 pm »

Nice one Joe.

Dench57 · « **Reply #135 on:** October 6, 2016, 10:32:02 pm »

Cracking goal against Austria tonight. He can't stop scoring!

Spanish Al · « **Reply #136 on:** October 7, 2016, 12:25:22 pm »

Quote from: penga on October 2, 2016, 02:09:03 pm

Well in wee Joe !

Does anyone think he could actually play the role Gini is playing for us now? Since Klopp came he was played further forward in the midfield and actually started chipping in with a few important goals while knitting the play nicely. Now at Stoke they've obviously not been doing well but the manager says he's the shining light of the team (Jesus reference ) again he's been getting into good positions with Stoke with more freedom and popping up with a couple of goals. He's not as physically strong or fast as Gini but he is better defensively and tougher in the tackle while having similar ball skills with passing and receiving.

Not for me. It is clear why we let Joe go and brought Gini in. Completely different players. Allen could obviously have still done a job for us but he doesn't have the pace or running power of Gini or the tactical flexibility and that is key for me. As good as he is he just doesn't suit how we play. Maybe he could have adapted had he stayed but he wanted and deserves to be a regular at a good club. He is a superb footballer and I'm very surprised a bigger club didn't come in for him to be honest. I think as he gets older he will get better and better.

Cracking goal for Wales last night and he is going to be a big miss for us on Sunday if he isn't fit, especially with Ramsey already out.

kcbworth · « **Reply #137 on:** October 15, 2016, 03:12:42 pm »

Quote from: Dench57 on October 6, 2016, 10:32:02 pm

He can't stop scoring!

And again

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #138 on:** October 15, 2016, 03:47:44 pm »

Quote from: kcbworth on October 15, 2016, 03:12:42 pm

And again

And again.

Sheer Magnetism · « **Reply #139 on:** October 15, 2016, 04:24:29 pm »

Typical both he and Balotelli turn into goal machines the second they sign for other clubs, though in Allen's case he probably would have done so more if he hasn't been played as the deepest midfielder for pretty much his whole stint here.

elsewhere · « **Reply #140 on:** October 15, 2016, 05:10:24 pm »

Keep it up Welsh Xavi!

007.lankyguy · « **Reply #141 on:** October 15, 2016, 06:28:46 pm »

Quote from: elsewhere on October 15, 2016, 05:10:24 pm

Keep it up Welsh Xavi!

I think you'll find that Xavi can only dream of the goal tally wee Joe's going to hit this year.

DHKopper · « **Reply #142 on:** October 15, 2016, 07:26:18 pm »

Happy for him.

rscanderlech · « **Reply #143 on:** October 15, 2016, 09:38:51 pm »

He already has equalled his persinal record for goals scored in a single season.

MrRaptorTurtle · « **Reply #144 on:** October 16, 2016, 12:10:40 am »

Keep it up Joe!
Played well today and has been Stoke's best player so far this season!

GreatEx · « **Reply #145 on:** October 16, 2016, 05:23:46 am »

Please tell me we inserted a sell-on fee; this man is Barca bound! More or less than Suarez's fee... I haven't decided yet. Messi will be afraid, very afraid. On ya Joe!

Redcap · « **Reply #146 on:** October 16, 2016, 10:30:45 am »

Quote from: Sheer Magnetism on October 15, 2016, 04:24:29 pm

Typical both he and Balotelli turn into goal machines the second they sign for other clubs, though in Allen's case he probably would have done so more if he hasn't been played as the deepest midfielder for pretty much his whole stint here.

Not really typical though. Players rarely seem to go up a level when they leave Liverpool. Alonso and Mascherano are probably the two clear exceptions to that rule.

AndyMuller · « **Reply #147 on:** October 16, 2016, 11:51:00 am »

Quote from: Redcap on October 16, 2016, 10:30:45 am

Not really typical though. Players rarely seem to go up a level when they leave Liverpool. Alonso and Mascherano are probably the two clear exceptions to that rule.

Suarez?

youll never walk alone it · « **Reply #148 on:** October 16, 2016, 12:16:02 pm »

I remember that golden chance he wasted at the pit may have been our near title season a game we didnt win, anyway good luck to him.

xbugawugax · « **Reply #149 on:** October 16, 2016, 12:57:10 pm »

Quote from: MrRaptorTurtle on October 16, 2016, 12:10:40 am

Keep it up Joe!
Played well today and has been Stoke's best player so far this season!

have to agree with that. Looks like the only player arsed vs man u and two goals this week. Looks like they have got a bargain. indispensable in the stoke midfield for now.

wish him all the best. Just not against us of course

paulrazor · « **Reply #150 on:** October 18, 2016, 11:16:20 am »

wonder how he would have done last night

classycarra · « **Reply #151 on:** October 18, 2016, 12:58:59 pm »

Quote from: Hellrazor on October 18, 2016, 11:16:20 am

wonder how he would have done last night

Depends really. If he'd continued playing so few minutes as last season, which with Wino and Lallana's form I guess is likely, he'd probably have looked as rusty as Can last night.

If he'd hypothetically have come to play for us last night, after starting the season at Stoke playing regularly, we'd probably have looked better in the first half.

Essentially though, there's no way he'd have been playing as well as he is now if he was playing for us now, because yesterday would have been his first league start

King Klopp. · « **Reply #152 on:** October 31, 2016, 10:09:39 pm »

Shame we let him go but he's showing his talent for Stoke

TALBERT · « **Reply #153 on:** October 31, 2016, 10:10:26 pm »

Quote from: King Klopp. on October 31, 2016, 10:09:39 pm

Shame we let him go but he's showing his talent for Stoke

Would he get a game?

King Klopp. · « **Reply #154 on:** October 31, 2016, 10:11:24 pm »

Quote from: TALBERT on October 31, 2016, 10:10:26 pm

Would he get a game?

Probably not as a starter which is why he left I expect.

Lone Star Red · « **Reply #155 on:** November 1, 2016, 07:57:24 pm »

4 goals and 2 assists his last 5 league games for Stoke. Don't think it's a coincidence that Stoke have 11 points over that same period.

darragh85 · « **Reply #156 on:** November 1, 2016, 11:20:56 pm »

nice footballer but couldnt handle the pressure of playing for liverpool imo. we saw nothing even close to this output in terms of goals and assists. he always played things very safe. never took a chance with anything.

Sheer Magnetism · « **Reply #157 on:** November 2, 2016, 04:32:43 pm »

It isn't so much pressure, he had a different role and was playing much further back for us for a lot of his time here. He did all right in terms of attacking output last season, he just wasn't part of Klopp's long term plans. I'm not too disappointed - it's not like we're playing badly without him - but I don't think any of our current midfielders have his composure. Maybe Lucas, but he has far less mobility than Allen right now.

Spanish Al · « **Reply #158 on:** November 2, 2016, 05:04:46 pm »

Quote from: darragh85 on November 1, 2016, 11:20:56 pm

nice footballer but couldnt handle the pressure of playing for liverpool imo. we saw nothing even close to this output in terms of goals and assists. he always played things very safe. never took a chance with anything.

What about the fact he never played this far forward for Liverpool and spent a lot of his playing time as the deepest of the midfielders? Injuries and being in and out of the side also didn't help along with the fact he is now coming into his prime years. He's playing further forward, starting week in and week out in a team that goes through him for most of their attacking play. Has nothing to do with pressure at all for me. Terrific player and will get better and better with age.

Phil M · « **Reply #159 on:** November 2, 2016, 11:06:05 pm »

Quote from: darragh85 on November 1, 2016, 11:20:56 pm

nice footballer but couldnt handle the pressure of playing for liverpool imo. we saw nothing even close to this output in terms of goals and assists. he always played things very safe. never took a chance with anything.

Did you and capitalisation have a falling out or something?