Not at all and that's a generalisation from yourself. I actually love people from the area and have connections within Liverpool. I'm an OOT but have supported the club all my life and will attend as many games as I can a year.
I do get sick of all the comments about OOT getting tickets and coming to watch matches and this forum is full of posts about this. I was just pointing out that it appears to be locals selling tickets to these OOT people outside of the ground.
I totally agree with points that if someone has financial worries and they're offered an obscene amount of money for their ticket, then of course it would be hard not to sell it.
I actually think the £9 tickets for locals is a good idea.
At the end of the day you won't stop touts, or individuals selling on their tickets for inflated prices
[You may have an iPhone but you are still using the free version of Tapatalk and spamming us with that knowledge]
I might have had my wires crossed a bit, I think I probably misunderstood some of your post.
Touting is a lot more complex than some realise. If you buy from one directly outside the ground there's a decent chance that it wasn't him (or her - lets not generalise
) that bought it from the club. There's the big business end of the market and there's the local scally end of the market.
For example, you'll have somebody sitting at home (that could be anywhere) skimming all kinds of events. You then have sites like Ticket Pad, who are not actually touting the ticket, but are acting as brokers by providing a market place for the touts. Somebody goes onto the site and buys, the money is transferred to the tout and on top of that the buyer pays a commission to ticket pad or whoever. That person who sold the ticket (not in all cases, but in some) is at the same time touting United, NFL games, concerts, etc. So he needs scally's to do the legwork of handing out cards and collecting them and they take a cut of the money they've collected.
In other cases, the person at the top has bought them for say, £45 each. He then sells them onto the scally end of the market for £80 each. The scally end of the market then sell them on at say, £100.
Some at the 'scally end' will buy them from the club and act independently. This is maybe only one ticket for every other match though. I posted a customised LFC Bot on the other thread. It was a bit silly of me to post it and it was rightly removed but I was showing people that they do exist. To make a good living out of this you need at least one of these, you can buy 2 or 3 at a discount. These are expensive and people at the 'scally end' don't have them. You might already know how they work but if not, I'll give you an idea. With 3 bots it's the equivalent at logging on with 1,500 different browsers open, you can customise these yourself to only go for specific parts of the ground. They'll then automatically add an infinite amount to your basket, then you remove the tickets that you think will give you the least mark up.
We crossed over at the OOT / Scouse subject as well. That's also a lot more complicated than some people think (I'll try not to ramble here or I'll go OT). There are a small amount of 'extremists' who want Liverpool for Liverpool, full stop. Then there's those who are worried that the Club is losing it's identity and want the ground to be 'more scouse'. I think we need more scousers in the ground, that's not to say I don't sort out wools who appear to have some kind of (genuine) emotional attachment to the City or at least make the effort to at least try to understand the culture of the City.
I read your post and two very complex issues had been merged into one, and as I said, I think I had my wires crossed.
