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Mamadou Sakho
« on: January 9, 2014, 11:17:39 am »
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Don't think I've ever seen a player look like he would be out for months and be potentially back so quickly. He was having fucking none of that injury.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mamadou-sakho-hands-liverpool-fc-6478248

Anyway, he's been looking extremely good when he has played bar one or two wayward passed, and you have to appreciate how young he is. Only 23 years old. He could easily be a mainstay for 7 - 10 years if we have a little bit of luck.


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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1 on: January 9, 2014, 11:20:22 am »
The echo are often on the money so it's great news. Doubt he would start against Stoke, but just having him close to fitness so soon is going to be vital with a tough January ahead.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #2 on: January 9, 2014, 11:22:08 am »
Timely return seeing as though Agger is out for a month.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #3 on: January 9, 2014, 11:22:31 am »
Sakho doesn't get injured, injuries get Sakho'd
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #4 on: January 9, 2014, 11:26:51 am »
Great news but let's not rush him for this weekend. I'd like to see him back to full fitness for the derby though.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #5 on: January 9, 2014, 11:28:33 am »
Another great piece of news. I reckon we can win all of the next 5 games if we're not hampered by injuries

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #6 on: January 9, 2014, 11:58:10 am »
Sakho doesn't get injured, injuries get Sakho'd

Haha, I like what you did there  ;D

Sakho seems like a good lad too. I don't remember the quotes exactly, but earlier in the season, right after he signed, he was saying things that made it sound like he really wanted to be here and could really plant roots. And he's such a beast that if he plants roots, you can bet they will go deep.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #7 on: January 9, 2014, 11:59:27 am »
Seems like he's back suspiciously quick.

Especially considering it's alongside Agger being injured.

Hope we're not rushing him back.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #8 on: January 9, 2014, 12:06:31 pm »
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Don't think I've ever seen a player look like he would be out for months and be potentially back so quickly. He was having fucking none of that injury.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mamadou-sakho-hands-liverpool-fc-6478248

Anyway, he's been looking extremely good when he has played bar one or two wayward passed, and you have to appreciate how young he is. Only 23 years old. He could easily be a mainstay for 7 - 10 years if we have a little bit of luck.




Good news, bit concerned at the comment at the bottom of that link though, sounds serious...

"quite a welcome development but not enough to distract from the imparetiveness of major jan additions. any mistake that denies the club the signature of Salah in this window is surly fatal cos watching him u find out there are a few like him available now."

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #9 on: January 9, 2014, 12:08:20 pm »
I'm not convinced by Sakho at the moment. Looks very nervous with the ball at his feet. Good in the air though.

Everyone seems to be won over by him already, but I just don't see it yet.

Feel much safer seeing Skrtel and Agger in the starting line-up wherever possible.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #10 on: January 9, 2014, 12:10:36 pm »
Looks very nervous with the ball at his feet.

That smacks of judging him on a 5 minute spell v City. He's brilliant with the ball.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #11 on: January 9, 2014, 12:10:40 pm »
I'm not convinced by Sakho at the moment. Looks very nervous with the ball at his feet. Good in the air though.

Everyone seems to be won over by him already, but I just don't see it yet.

Feel much safer seeing Skrtel and Agger in the starting line-up wherever possible.

Your fears are unfounded. Apart from a few brief moments he's been so much safer, and better, than the other two.

That smacks of judging him on a 5 minute spell v City. He's brilliant with the ball.

Exactly. It's also like judging Skrtel by the few sliding tackles he does in games to stop shots at the last minute.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #12 on: January 9, 2014, 12:21:29 pm »

I'm not convinced by Sakho at the moment. Looks very nervous with the ball at his feet. Good in the air though.

Everyone seems to be won over by him already, but I just don't see it yet.

Feel much safer seeing Skrtel and Agger in the starting line-up wherever possible.

He really is brilliant with the ball. He just looks awkward at times.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #13 on: January 9, 2014, 12:27:13 pm »
A mate of mine who's a big red reckons hes no good, that he cant hardly stand on his two feet  ::)

I think hes boss, we will improve as hes only young. Could be a rock at the back for years.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #14 on: January 9, 2014, 12:32:34 pm »
A mate of mine who's a big red reckons hes no good, that he cant hardly stand on his two feet  ::)

I think hes boss, we will improve as hes only young. Could be a rock at the back for years.

i can stand on my three feet :P

i really want to see Toure-Sakho partnership for once
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #15 on: January 9, 2014, 12:34:58 pm »
I agree, he looks nervous at times and hes always looking to play simple passes (which is good) with his left (not always so good). 

I would be interested to see the stats of the games with him vs without him, maybe not necessarily in terms of win/loss but certainly goals conceded.

I'm not sure what the final price tag was but i believe it was 15mil+? He hasn't justified that sort of fee yet but overall hes been good, yet unspectacular.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #16 on: January 9, 2014, 12:37:11 pm »
That smacks of judging him on a 5 minute spell v City. He's brilliant with the ball.

He's had a couple of those "mad" 5 minutes though where he couldn't trap or pass a ball. Not saying there's loads but for me he loses composure to often, I'd rather properly judge him on a larger sample of games before declaring the next Desailly.


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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #17 on: January 9, 2014, 12:37:24 pm »
i really want to see Toure-Sakho partnership for once

So I am not the only one thankfully. As much I love Agger & as good as he is with the ball at his feet he is not a great defender. And the problem with Skrtel is he'll defend brilliantly for 80 odd minutes & then give away a goal or 2. Toure & Sakho are proper defenders - I don't care if they can't pass the ball as well as Agger, a defender must first & foremost be able to defend...

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #18 on: January 9, 2014, 12:39:41 pm »
I'm not convinced by Sakho at the moment. Looks very nervous with the ball at his feet.

See, i'm of the opinion that it's his technique and slightly Traore-esque gait that affords this impression. He just looks a little ungainly, doesn't he? Add that to the fact that he has the confidence to play the kind of (progressive) passes that most centre backs wouldn't even consider (and that occasionally have your heart in your mouth) and it's not difficult to see where this kind of opinion is being derived.

Essentially, he's very different to what we've been used to.

I don't care if they can't pass the ball as well as Agger

I don't agree with that, either. Sakho's distribution has been excellent, in the main.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #19 on: January 9, 2014, 12:41:16 pm »
hes always looking to play simple passes

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #20 on: January 9, 2014, 12:46:48 pm »
What the fuck is he made of to recover from a hammy that quickly?

I'll tell you what. Nails.

He's one of a collection of players we have now that are fantastic yet run strangely.  Sterling,  Henderson and Sakho in a bleep test would be like John Cleese ministry for silly runs.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #21 on: January 9, 2014, 12:50:37 pm »
Good news, bit concerned at the comment at the bottom of that link though, sounds serious...

"quite a welcome development but not enough to distract from the imparetiveness of major jan additions. any mistake that denies the club the signature of Salah in this window is surly fatal cos watching him u find out there are a few like him available now."

Eh? That's a comment from a member of the public, it means nothing.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #22 on: January 9, 2014, 12:53:01 pm »
I've said this before but to put this guy into perspective - he's the same age as Coates, but look at the difference. I'm not saying this to put down Seb in any way, but the sheer gulf in development stage should show just what a talent Sakho is.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #23 on: January 9, 2014, 12:55:07 pm »
Im just afraid if he plays against stoke that his hammy will go again. he has recovered strangely early.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #24 on: January 9, 2014, 01:07:02 pm »
Im just afraid if he plays against stoke that his hammy will go again. he has recovered strangely early.
Could have been just a grade 1 tear?  I'm not going to pretend like I know the medical side in relation to football players but having read some of Welshred's posts it seems like you can recover inside 10 days.

I'm guessing he is not used to those 3 games in a week in December (21st, 26th & 29th).  The injury was sustained at the end of the game on the 29th.

Hopefully he is back for Stoke.  Think we will need him, even more so with Agger being out.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #25 on: January 9, 2014, 01:15:44 pm »
Nervy passer? He has the 8th best pass completion in the entire league. Skrtel is 6th. Agger is 63rd. I admit his technique and the way he generally plays looks a bit awkward but bar a few nervy spells he's generally very good in his passing, certainly the most positive out of all our CBs, including Agger.  Seriously you won't find many CB with his quality at 23 years of age, and if you do they're the players that go for £20m+. It's crazy how good this guy could be for us in years to come.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #26 on: January 9, 2014, 01:20:04 pm »
He's not a 'nervy' passer.  If anything he is too confident. 

It's how he makes you nervous when passing out of defence.  I think as fans we have that.  But I like the way we play the ball out.  At times, against City, he was our playmaker.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #27 on: January 9, 2014, 01:21:58 pm »
I'm not convinced by Sakho at the moment. Looks very nervous with the ball at his feet. Good in the air though.

Everyone seems to be won over by him already, but I just don't see it yet.

Feel much safer seeing Skrtel and Agger in the starting line-up wherever possible.

Wtf? He's brilliant on the ball. Yeah he might look a tad awkward but he's actually more effective than any of our other defenders at finding a good forward pass.

He's also a boss defender. Love him. Watching Skrtel and Agger shits me up far more than he does.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #28 on: January 9, 2014, 01:29:13 pm »
I'm not convinced by Sakho at the moment. Looks very nervous with the ball at his feet. Good in the air though.

Everyone seems to be won over by him already, but I just don't see it yet.

Feel much safer seeing Skrtel and Agger in the starting line-up wherever possible.
it really annoying how some are basing this on his crazy 5 minute spell against city. 99% of time hes very very good with the ball at his feet.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #29 on: January 9, 2014, 01:36:29 pm »
I agree that as a partnership, its Agger and Skrtel every time. However, I think Sakho is top class, will be one of the finest defenders in the league in 12-18months and once settled with a partner, could be a fixture for years to come!

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #30 on: January 9, 2014, 01:48:44 pm »
Agree with the majority regarding Sakho's excellent passing.

He often plays balls low through the middle which are so effective for starting attacks.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #31 on: January 9, 2014, 02:03:52 pm »
He's one of the few centre backs I've seen who can also play a little chipped ball into a midfielder if there's no direct route to pass.

While that says a lot about his bravery and passing technique it also tells you how good his vision is,  which helps him as a defender.

One thing that makes me nervous about him is he loves stepping up and he expects the line to follow.  Skrtel in particular has been slow to step out and create the offside trap and it has led to players running through unmarked.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #32 on: January 9, 2014, 02:12:47 pm »
Eh? That's a comment from a member of the public, it means nothing.

I don't think my sarcasm travelled too well!  Always amazes me some of the bollocks written in article comments.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #33 on: January 9, 2014, 02:30:47 pm »
I'm not convinced by Sakho at the moment. Looks very nervous with the ball at his feet. Good in the air though.

Everyone seems to be won over by him already, but I just don't see it yet.

Feel much safer seeing Skrtel and Agger in the starting line-up wherever possible.

He looks nervous. But he is scanning forward for pass options. I'll take the appearance of being nervous along with his ability to find a midfielder with a pass.
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #34 on: January 9, 2014, 02:37:56 pm »
I think the way he curls his body when going for those incisive passes also help create the illusion he's uncomfortable on the ball. The only time I see him get a bit uncomfortable is when his left foot's passing lane is blocked off and he is hurried into a right footed pass in field. Nothing that can't be fixed on the training pitch.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #35 on: January 9, 2014, 02:41:38 pm »
Agree with the majority regarding Sakho's excellent passing.

He often plays balls low through the middle which are so effective for starting attacks.
totally agree, i thnk his passing has been great

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #36 on: January 9, 2014, 02:49:00 pm »
Pass percentage is 92% - Average pass length is 18m

And Indeed if you were to judge him on his City and Chelsea performances passing wise
he was down under 90% - the only other game which he was under 90% was our loss
to Southampton

http://www.squawka.com/players/mamadou-sakho#avg.-pass-accuracy#liverpool-(current)#english-barclays-premier-league#8#season-2013/2014#64#all-matches#1-20#accuracy.

The lad is a beast and can pass it with the best of them at the back, love his diagonal ball from the back through the
midfield - Great vision

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #37 on: January 9, 2014, 02:49:31 pm »
Absolutely love Sakho.

He is a proper beast of a defender. From what I've seen so far, he's been great. The occasional wayward passes due to moments of nervousness can be forgiven, considering his age and the fact he's new here.

For example, look at Koscielny. He was a joke when he arrived at Arsenal. Prone to errors. Now he's easily one of the best central defenders in the League.

I think Sakho can surpass Koscielny.

I'd love to see a partnership of Sakho and Toure. Both beasts, and it would be the right balance of experience, imo. Toure, the veteran defender, looking after the new-comer, Sakho, and helping to mold him into greatness.

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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #38 on: January 9, 2014, 02:51:16 pm »
Barring a few moments, he's been very composed on the ball and in his passing.  Instead of booting it when under pressure, he makes the right pass out of defense to start a counter.  He looks clumsy, but that can be deceiving.  He'll make a 15 yard pass to feet almost every time that I've seen.  His nervy moment have far and away been the exception, as far as I'm concerned...
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Re: Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #39 on: January 9, 2014, 02:51:30 pm »
He's not a 'nervy' passer.  If anything he is too confident. 

It's how he makes you nervous when passing out of defence.  I think as fans we have that.  But I like the way we play the ball out.  At times, against City, he was our playmaker.
His gait, gives him that appearance. Both feet are slightly flat footed, and he has a jerky passing motion. It looks nervous, but the passing is actually very accurate.
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