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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1400 on: November 2, 2013, 10:40:51 pm »
Didn't do anything wrong. Was even trying to make the block for their 2nd while Toure was stood frozen.

Him and Agger in the middle please.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1401 on: November 2, 2013, 10:43:10 pm »
He's going to be immense for us.

It's nice to have a defender who wants to engage attackers and bring the fight to them after years of Carra and Skrtel who were/are more often than not scared of their own shadow.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1402 on: November 2, 2013, 11:15:22 pm »
Not sure what some were watching but i thought Sakho was one of the better players.

Didn't do much wrong intercepted , cleared and won a few challenges
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1403 on: November 3, 2013, 12:22:38 am »
Much more to do with Thiago's influence by all accounts.

you can see why though.
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1404 on: November 3, 2013, 12:27:07 am »
understanding space does apply to defenders as well as attackers.

if you step out to close someone down you have to be aware what sort of space you are leaving behind.

you only come out to win the ball....unless there are no other opposition players about.

sakho did this twice v Swansea and imo I an alarming bad habit.


sakho clearly cant read quick situations

having him and agger together would be comical as aggers not exactly the quickest in the head on the cover and makes odd decisions himself.
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1405 on: November 3, 2013, 01:01:02 am »
he looks more solid as a left back.

as a centre back he looks like a nightmare.

to eager to close down and unaware he is leaving dangerous space .....I can see why alex got in ahead of him at psg

Hes a high risk Centre Back and it paid off on most occasions today. I don't agree with you on the first goal because if cissokho had actually been watching Sagna and not the ball he would have gotten there. However, I do feel he was at fault for the second goal as he firstly steps up to challenge Ramsey which makes Kolo drop off and then he changes his mind and drops off which gives Ramsey the time to shoot with Kolo realising this though in vain as his efforts were too late.
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1406 on: November 3, 2013, 02:32:52 am »
can you run us through his thinking for their first goal.
Skrtel switched off and watched the ball hit the post instead of picking Cazorla's run; he had the space and time. If Skrtel followed him, he wouldn't have had a sniff of the rebound. Why would you pin this on Sakho?
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1407 on: November 3, 2013, 04:38:17 am »
Hes a high risk Centre Back and it paid off on most occasions today. I don't agree with you on the first goal because if cissokho had actually been watching Sagna and not the ball he would have gotten there. However, I do feel he was at fault for the second goal as he firstly steps up to challenge Ramsey which makes Kolo drop off and then he changes his mind and drops off which gives Ramsey the time to shoot with Kolo realising this though in vain as his efforts were too late.
This.  Cissokho is the problem, not Sakho.  Sakho actually had a very good game IMHO.  Regarding the second goal, Lucas was at fault.  He gave Ramsey the space and it was a fantastic finish.  Still, that's too much space to give someone in that area of the pitch.  You are just asking for trouble.
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1408 on: November 3, 2013, 10:11:35 am »
Not sure what some were watching but i thought Sakho was one of the better players.

Didn't do much wrong intercepted , cleared and won a few challenges

Yep. Boss on the ball as usual too.

After a shaky start he's been our best defender this season, for me.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1409 on: November 3, 2013, 10:14:36 am »
Hes a high risk Centre Back and it paid off on most occasions today. I don't agree with you on the first goal because if cissokho had actually been watching Sagna and not the ball he would have gotten there. However, I do feel he was at fault for the second goal as he firstly steps up to challenge Ramsey which makes Kolo drop off and then he changes his mind and drops off which gives Ramsey the time to shoot with Kolo realising this though in vain as his efforts were too late.

Where the fuck were the midfield though?

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1410 on: November 3, 2013, 10:41:05 am »
He`s the least of our problems.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1411 on: November 3, 2013, 10:50:04 am »
We've had plenty of partnerships with two right footed CBs. I'd be really keen to see him and Agger.
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1412 on: November 3, 2013, 11:00:41 am »
If Sakho at centre back he would have probably closed Ramsey down and stopped the goal.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1413 on: November 3, 2013, 11:01:01 am »
Would like to see him LB like Eric Abidal for Barca. 443 formation to begin with, real wingback at RB who goes up to make it three defenders when needed as LB can double as CB.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1414 on: November 3, 2013, 12:46:16 pm »
I thought he was very good yesterday, one of the few good points. If we go 4 at the back its got to be him and Agger CB?

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1415 on: November 3, 2013, 01:18:04 pm »
G1 Jockey, you expect A LOT of a defender if you think he has been poor.
that's basic defending.

if you play in back 3 at the side of the 3 your main concern is anything going down the side.
anything in front of you is only your concern if they have the ball running at you...you then deal with it.....if you pre judge and leave space to the side you can then not deal with that issue as you are out of the game.

sakho should have assessed the situation better and not taken the risk.

itrs not the first time he has taken risks.
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1416 on: November 3, 2013, 01:19:07 pm »
I thought he was very good yesterday, one of the few good points. If we go 4 at the back its got to be him and Agger CB?

if it is we can kiss goodbye to top 4.

aggers is not the most reliable coverer....and sakho will need plenty of that.

if Rodgers played that and stuck with it he wont be in a job long
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1417 on: November 3, 2013, 01:20:07 pm »
For the first goal, he steps out to try and intercept the ball, he is the spare man so it's not a problem that he misses. The problem was Cissokho's half-assed tracking of Sagna and letting him cross the ball without so much as putting his foot out.

Overall, I thought he was brilliant yesterday and if we revert back to a back four, I think Sakho and Toure would be the best partnership we currently have.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1418 on: November 3, 2013, 01:21:34 pm »
He is probably the least of our worries right now (well apart from the strike force), I am pretty shocked that anyone is questioning him at all, even if it is just one poster.
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1419 on: November 3, 2013, 01:27:32 pm »
I thought he did ok yesterday and is settling in. The problem is that he is playing instead of Agger probably who is a favourite but that's not his fault. He won some good tackles and aside from the slip defended pretty well.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1420 on: November 3, 2013, 01:30:32 pm »
if it is we can kiss goodbye to top 4.

aggers is not the most reliable coverer....and sakho will need plenty of that.

if Rodgers played that and stuck with it he wont be in a job long

Havnt noticed it that much although i do see where youre coming from, he usually wins the ball when he steps out thogh so its not much of a problem. The goal wasnt his fault yesterday, was Cissokho/Flanaghan/trackers in midfield.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1421 on: November 3, 2013, 06:18:22 pm »
He was our best player on the pitch yesterday. With a back three he can step out and expect to be covered. Ridiculous to say otherwise. Can't see Sahko losing his place anytime soon that's for sure.
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1422 on: November 3, 2013, 06:21:38 pm »
Some people saying Sakho has looked better wide????

When hes played in the middle, personally, i think hes looked good. Pairing him with another new boy in Cissokho was a poor decision though.

When he's played wide hes looked dreadful.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1423 on: November 3, 2013, 06:29:06 pm »
He's a good centre-back, he's very aggressive though so he'll leave the line to make a challenge. I really like that about him to be honest but it's not quite in keeping with our cautions, keep-shape defensive strategy..

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1424 on: November 3, 2013, 06:38:43 pm »
He's a good centre-back, he's very aggressive though so he'll leave the line to make a challenge. I really like that about him to be honest but it's not quite in keeping with our cautions, keep-shape defensive strategy..

if you leave space behind and don't win the ball.....you have made a mistake.

the first thing a forward looks for is space....he is way too eager and cant read the play well enough.
he is going to be too easy to manipulate by the opposition imo and needs some serious coaching sharpish.
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« Reply #1425 on: November 3, 2013, 06:43:33 pm »
if you leave space behind and don't win the ball.....you have made a mistake.

the first thing a forward looks for is space....he is way too eager and cant read the play well enough.
he is going to be too easy to manipulate by the opposition imo and needs some serious coaching sharpish.

I'm not sure if it's a mistake or not, I think probably it was. But I think given he's got two other centre backs, Lucas and Cissokho (who actually started out ahead of Sagna but was still outrun and never got close to the cross) then there's at least some mitigation for Sakho trying to cut the pass out.

I really think he's got the right idea but maybe the wrong time there!

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1426 on: November 3, 2013, 06:44:15 pm »
he looks more solid as a left back.

as a centre back he looks like a nightmare.

Despite him hardly putting a foot wrong there since joining the club? Deary me.
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« Reply #1427 on: November 3, 2013, 06:47:03 pm »
He was the best player across the back 5 yesterday.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1428 on: November 3, 2013, 06:56:50 pm »
if you leave space behind and don't win the ball.....you have made a mistake.

the first thing a forward looks for is space....he is way too eager and cant read the play well enough.
he is going to be too easy to manipulate by the opposition imo and needs some serious coaching sharpish.

What are you basing this on ? What a ridiculous thing to say . There is always space behind when you make a challenge, and there is space in front if you drop off. And there is space if you stand still too.

He is quick and strong and hard in the tackle. Once he gets to speed with the league you can see him making those great lunging challenges all over the place, winning the ball backand calmly setting us off again. He is very calm and assured on the ball, and his range of passing and finding a team mate is very good.
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1429 on: November 3, 2013, 06:57:19 pm »
He was the best player across the back 5 yesterday.

no. skrtel was. skrtel was amazing as he has been all year.

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« Reply #1430 on: November 3, 2013, 07:31:11 pm »
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1431 on: November 3, 2013, 08:03:37 pm »
I reckon for their first he took a look at Cissokho, assumed he had sagna covered so stepped out to force a rushed pass or win the ball.  Cissokho got done and the rest of the defence then just let Cazorla walk in and take 2 bites of the cherry.

You say he made a mistake.. I say he was a step ahead of everyone and his only mistake was trusting a team mate to do his job.

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« Reply #1432 on: November 3, 2013, 08:09:30 pm »
no. skrtel was. skrtel was amazing as he has been all year.
Is that excluding Cozorla's goal?

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1433 on: November 3, 2013, 10:38:05 pm »
Oozed pure quality again yesterday, but we need to revert to a back 4 and put him in the centre alongside Toure. Sometimes feels like BR shirks making tough decisions, regarding omitting players from the team. I like Skrtel but it's patently obvious that he doesn't have the skills to play the way we want to play. Johnson, Toure, Sakho and Enrique next game for me, or  Kelly, Toure, Sakho, Johnson if Jose is still out.

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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1434 on: November 3, 2013, 10:40:48 pm »
He had to help cissokho out a lot too
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1435 on: November 3, 2013, 10:57:28 pm »
He had to help cissokho out a lot too
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Re: LFC sign Mamadou Sakho
« Reply #1436 on: November 4, 2013, 12:15:22 pm »
One of Sakho's undoubted qualities is his passing. Now that Coutinho has returned, this aspect of Sakho's game has become even more exciting. With Coutinho playing centrally, I'm sure Sakho will be able to pick him out often.

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« Reply #1437 on: November 4, 2013, 12:28:58 pm »
Is that excluding Cozorla's goal?

that's where sakho would have been had he not taken himself out of the game earlier in the move ffs

skrtel has been briiliant so far this season but the agger and sakho fanboys don't want to see it.

sakho and agger make odd decision which impact the team and lead to other players getting the blame.

prime example last season was the aguerro equaliser past the on rushing pepe.
look at what agger did there and ask your self what he was thinking and if that was called for??

only a fanboy would tell you he did nothing wrong ffs
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« Reply #1438 on: November 4, 2013, 12:33:50 pm »
Skrtl has been very good this season. But he's playing his role. If we are switching to a back four, I don't think he can be kept in on form, we need players who can defend more aggressively, higher up the field.

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« Reply #1439 on: November 4, 2013, 02:29:23 pm »
Skrtl has been very good this season. But he's playing his role. If we are switching to a back four, I don't think he can be kept in on form, we need players who can defend more aggressively, higher up the field.


imo he can and will trust toure far more than agger to cover him.

the problem is clearly the defenc eis backing off to allow gerarrd more space to play
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