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Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« on: April 15, 2007, 06:27:11 pm »
Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
Scientists claim radiation from handsets are to blame for mysterious 'colony collapse' of bees


By Geoffrey Lean and Harriet Shawcross
Published: 15 April 2007

It seems like the plot of a particularly far-fetched horror film. But some scientists suggest that our love of the mobile phone could cause massive food shortages, as the world's harvests fail.

They are putting forward the theory that radiation given off by mobile phones and other hi-tech gadgets is a possible answer to one of the more bizarre mysteries ever to happen in the natural world - the abrupt disappearance of the bees that pollinate crops. Late last week, some bee-keepers claimed that the phenomenon - which started in the US, then spread to continental Europe - was beginning to hit Britain as well.

The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees' navigation systems, preventing the famously homeloving species from finding their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now evidence to back this up.

Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) occurs when a hive's inhabitants suddenly disappear, leaving only queens, eggs and a few immature workers, like so many apian Mary Celestes. The vanished bees are never found, but thought to die singly far from home. The parasites, wildlife and other bees that normally raid the honey and pollen left behind when a colony dies, refuse to go anywhere near the abandoned hives.

The alarm was first sounded last autumn, but has now hit half of all American states. The West Coast is thought to have lost 60 per cent of its commercial bee population, with 70 per cent missing on the East Coast.

CCD has since spread to Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece. And last week John Chapple, one of London's biggest bee-keepers, announced that 23 of his 40 hives have been abruptly abandoned.

Other apiarists have recorded losses in Scotland, Wales and north-west England, but the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs insisted: "There is absolutely no evidence of CCD in the UK."

The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world's crops depend on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left".

No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides, global warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.

German research has long shown that bees' behaviour changes near power lines.

Now a limited study at Landau University has found that bees refuse to return to their hives when mobile phones are placed nearby. Dr Jochen Kuhn, who carried it out, said this could provide a "hint" to a possible cause.

Dr George Carlo, who headed a massive study by the US government and mobile phone industry of hazards from mobiles in the Nineties, said: "I am convinced the possibility is real."

The case against handsets

Evidence of dangers to people from mobile phones is increasing. But proof is still lacking, largely because many of the biggest perils, such as cancer, take decades to show up.

Most research on cancer has so far proved inconclusive. But an official Finnish study found that people who used the phones for more than 10 years were 40 per cent more likely to get a brain tumour on the same side as they held the handset.

Equally alarming, blue-chip Swedish research revealed that radiation from mobile phones killed off brain cells, suggesting that today's teenagers could go senile in the prime of their lives.

Studies in India and the US have raised the possibility that men who use mobile phones heavily have reduced sperm counts. And, more prosaically, doctors have identified the condition of "text thumb", a form of RSI from constant texting.

Professor Sir William Stewart, who has headed two official inquiries, warned that children under eight should not use mobiles and made a series of safety recommendations, largely ignored by ministers.

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2007, 07:52:16 pm »
I detest bees and love my mobile phone.

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2007, 08:06:03 pm »
DON'T YOU JUST LOVE IT ?

There is no evidence of CCD in the UK.

They could have CJD, Foot & Mouth, MRSA, or Difficile C, but certainly not CCD.

DEFRA state clearly that the UK is a CCD free zone !!!!

erm........have they actually looked or researched ?
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2007, 09:43:27 pm »
The most toxic thing on this planet, without a doubt, is people.
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 01:57:16 pm »
Well, the French and the Belgians think it's pesticides and what not, and they're doing something about it...

From The Times
May 11, 2010
Brussels and Paris to spend £2m on pesticide-free bee hotels
Adam Sage, Paris

It sounds like the sort of scheme to whip eurosceptics into a fury — £1 million spent by Brussels on building hotels for French bees. But scientists insist that the project, launched this month in Lyons, could help to slow the decline of the European bee population, saving vegetables, fruit, flowers — and billions of euros.

The theory is that pesticide use has become so widespread in farming regions that wild bees would be better off in towns that have banned pesticides and insecticides in parks and public gardens, said Frédéric Vyghen, of Arthropolgia, an environmental association running the project — Urbanbees — with the French National Institute for Agronomic Research and Lyons University.

The five-year programme will cost £2 million, with half coming from the European Union and the rest from French local authorities. Researchers are to build 48 insect “hotels” in and around Lyons. They will be 4m long, 2m high and be made of earth, bricks and plant stalks.

Mr Vyghen said homeowners would be asked to plant indigenous flowers for the benefit of France’s 1,000 species of bees and to mow lawns less.

France has 1.3 million hives generating sales of £100 million last year. “If they died out, we’d have no vegetables, fruit — nothing,” said Mr Vyghen.

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 02:38:29 pm »
it's still fucked, we need wasps to die, not bees
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 03:17:10 pm »
The most toxic thing on this planet, without a doubt, is people.

Aptly put. We'll wipe out everything, including each other, soon enough.
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 03:47:03 pm »

I'm an atheist apiarist, but don't tell Andy. ;)

Unless I'm missing something, while there is conjecture by non beekeepers and inexperienced first time keepers who suffer over winter colony deaths, CCD has not been confirmed here in the UK.

CCD is reasonably specific, literally the whole colony disappears from the hive leaving just a few stragglers and dead bees. Now this can happen anyway with swarming, bees have been known to get fed up and simply move elsewhere though with swarming usually a queen and a nucleus of workers stay behind and carry on.

But the precise reasons for the unprecedented large scale CCD events in the US have yet to be determined and unfortunately there are inconsistencies in the experiences amongst keepers, making it very difficult to determine exactly what is going on.

But from what I've seen, I wouldn't treat my colonies the way they do shipping them a few thousand miles along motorways on a flat bed immersed in clouds of diesel fumes and expect them to be healthy and I have a hunch that research on the stability of the initial Nucleus Colonies for brood stock that these commercial beekeepers in the US are using might be revealing.

The commercialisation of the industry is such that more money can be made from shipping the bees around to pollinate the orchards in these otherwise naturally barren places than from the honey and wax production, which have become just a side product and not the main. Makes you wonder.

Don't believe all the alarmist hype either, as although of importance, honey bees are very specialised in what they can pollenate due to the shape and length of their tongues. Have a look at jars of honey in the shops as most of that will have come from rape, clover and heather for example with relatively small amounts from orchards. Other bee species, moths, butterflies, hover flies and assorted other small things I can't even remember, are just as important for pollination of fruit, but it's that diversity and alternative that goes missing as we move to prarie type monoculture farming to keep costs down.

But the French move is to be welcomed, but it seems to be concerned with solitary bee and other insect populations and diversity preservation in general, and not honey bees. But it's more research than DEFRA are doing and yes, there is much to be said for banning the use of many pesticides. Unfortunately the Tesco's of this world demand cheap produce.
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 04:16:34 pm »
We've completely messed things up for bees. We've imported the varroa mite, which was confined to Eastern honeybees, to Europe - I believe only Australia is varroa-free now. Some varroa treatments have been linked to an increase in black queen cell virus, which kills queens before they are born. Then we've carefully selected docile and productive bees, and transported them worldwide, reducing their gene pool in the process. They are also transported across countries to pollinate huge swathes of monocultures, which can lead to malnutrition. This problem is compounded by changing weather patterns. Malnutrition makes the bees more susceptible to disease, predators and pesticides. And there are the pesticides and fungicides. In the USA, fungicides do not need to be tested for toxicity to bees - don't know what the situation is in other countries. The synergistic effects of pesticides and fungicides remain untested, too, so although scientists have generally not found a statistical relation between the presence of residues and colony deaths, and that bee deaths have not been observed in areas where certain pesticides are widely used, there are plenty of question marks that remain.

It's a huge mess. I'd recommend any potential beekeeper to get bees from local stock, and to let the bees deal with the varroa mite - there's evidence that hives can develop resistance.

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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 04:20:38 pm »
..... I'd recommend any potential beekeeper to get bees from local stock, and to let the bees deal with the varroa mite - there's evidence that hives can develop resistance.

Same here, that's exactly what I do.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2010, 09:34:54 pm »
Same here, that's exactly what I do.

How long have you been keeping bees? I'm doing a bit of research, out of interest, but it's not an option at the moment since I live in a flat.

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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 09:55:05 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2010, 10:53:09 am »
How long have you been keeping bees? I'm doing a bit of research, out of interest, but it's not an option at the moment since I live in a flat.
About 14 years now and self taught. I don't profess to being an expert, in fact I leave them pretty much to their own devices most of the year, but what do want to know? Is it stuff like how much it costs, what hive to get, what the hive bits are called (very mysterious at first), what you have to do with them in winter and that sort of thing?
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2010, 06:20:53 pm »
This little flotilla of bees came into my parents garden a few years ago. It was a crazy afternoon in June. First  a few bees started flying around, not being aggressive towards us, just flying around then this immense madness when the whole garden was blotted out by buzzing and after making a beeline (sorry) for the safety of the house we were able to watch them all settle in an Apple tree in the garden. They stayed for one day and then all took off the next morning. I'll never forget that day. No one got stung. Amazing sight. here's a photo of them resting in the tree.

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2010, 06:26:18 pm »
Whoever heard of a bee with a mobile?

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2010, 12:39:31 am »
......not being aggressive towards us.....

They can certainly be quite Biblical but true swarms are not aggressive, they have no hive to protect, only the queen somewhere in the middle, and the workers are full of stores to tide over the colony when it finds a suitable place to lodge so have other things to worry about.

That doesn't mean to say you don't run the risk of a few stings, usually due to carelessness or panic reactions, but the swarm can be handled safely with little if any protective gear.

There are some people who like to prove the point by doing this sort of thing...

Plenty more examples if you google "bee swarm beard"

But, roughly disturb or tip over a populated hive and you're quite likely in for a real world of pain experience if you haven't a net over your face and neck and gloves on. These are the incidents that are sometimes referred to by people as aggressive swarms.

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2010, 12:46:18 am »
I blame Jerry Seinfeld. They're all probably up and dying of shame.

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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2010, 12:17:42 pm »
About 14 years now and self taught. I don't profess to being an expert, in fact I leave them pretty much to their own devices most of the year, but what do want to know? Is it stuff like how much it costs, what hive to get, what the hive bits are called (very mysterious at first), what you have to do with them in winter and that sort of thing?


14 years - impressive. Have you suffered sudden losses, or does it just vary from year to year?

Any info would be welcome to be honest - I'm right at the beginning of this journey. I'm intrigued by the hive bits now, might have to google that now. Seems to me that leaving them mainly to their own devices should do the trick. What's the main problem in your opinion?

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2010, 01:26:41 pm »
I'd absolutely bloody love to keep bees. They're one of the most fasinating animals on the planet.

At the moment my garden's just a little bit too small - where basically if I sat in the garden I'd be sat next to a swarm of bees. As above I'd love to know a bit more about keeping them.

Some "experts" are blaming novice beekeepers for the increase in bee diseases as they can't spot them but I think that might be a bit of blame deferral.

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2010, 02:34:16 pm »
Any info would be welcome to be honest

Ok, starting with the hives.

There are 3 main types popular here in the UK, the National, the WBC and the Commercial.

I have the WBC type, they look nice in the garden and you can them from here, the place I get all my supplies from. You can also pick them up used and pretty complete for around £100 or maybe less. Well worth getting the plastic legs for them as they don't rot.

The types of hive all have slightly different dimensions, derived from experience over the years, and that's what you have to worry about, as the parts are not particularly interchangeable, and dimensions of things are very important to bees.

So with a WBC..the naming of the parts...

At the bottom of the hive you have the 'Base'

It has the sloping bit sticking out for the bees to land on and do their dancing(brilliant to watch) sometimes called the 'lighting' board as that's where they alight, and collectively with the little roof projection, called the 'porch'

On top of this are then the 'lifts'. These are the protective outer layers for the contents and stack on top of each other.

Inside the lifts and protected and insulated by them are then placed the main parts, the boxes.

The bottom box(or 2 stacked if you are ambitious) is called the 'brood' box and as the name suggests it is where the young are raised.

Above the brood box you put a queen excluder, like a grille whose dimensions prevent only the queen from going any higher up and laying eggs in the places where you only want honey. You don't want that to happen.

Into the brood box then go 'frames', evenly and precisely spaced, usually with plastic spacers though I use wood. These are simple wooden shapes that have a bees wax sheet inserted and held together with tiny panel pins. The wax sheet is called brood 'foundation' and is pre-embossed with the correct sizes for 'brood' cells and usually strengthened with a piece of wire woven into it.

Above the brood box(s) go the 'super's. These are usually shallower than the brood box, and are where the bees will store everything they have collected and made and need to survive successfully, primarily honey.

Again, these 'super's are loaded with a precise number of evenly spaced frames, usually deeper than the brood frames, and pre-embossed with the correct size cell base for storage cells.

You can put as many supers as you can manage on the hive, but make sure you have the right number of lifts to cover them.
Typically, most people run with 1 or 2 supers.

On the top of the stacked supers is then a 'crown' board, just a piece of thin wood to close of the top of hive, but what you have to prize off when you collect the honey as the bees produce a reddish coloured resin derived substance called propolis that acts like an all purpose super glue and crack filler and it's really difficult to get it off your fingers and impossible off your clothes. I've warned you....

And then right at the top, placed on this assembled stack, goes the roof.

All you need now is some bees, and this is the best month to pick up a swarm that will work as it will have plenty of time to stock up to survive over winter. So get a jamjar and put a few table spoons of honey in it, pour some caster sugar in to about half way and then fill it up with hot water. Then, and this is an old trick, add a few drops of lemon juice(trust me).

Let it cool, place hive base in suitable slightly elevated place in garden where the porch gets sunlight for most of the day and you'll be happy with it's postion. You really don't want to try and move a fully loaded hive once it gets going.

Put brood box with brood frames in on base and top this with the queen excluder.

Put a super box on top and as you put each super frame into it, using a pastry brush, carefully paint each them with some of the solution and place them in the super. Don't worry if you put too much on, they will soon tidy it up when they arrive.

Stack the lift(s) on around the brood and super(s) and put crown board on followed by roof, and pour yourself a drink.

Now check hive every few days. You may just get the contents quickly robbed so you have to repeat the process, they are sometimes little thieves to each other, but with luck after a few weeks you might find there are lots of bees flying in and out. If you see ones with bags of pollen on their legs going in, you've passed the first hurdle and you've now become a beekeeper. They are now your responsibility.

Now leave them well alone, I have found this is important. Do not start tinkering this year, unless you think something has gone horribly wrong, like mice or shrews have got in, or they decided to move house.

They will keep active throughout the year provided the temperature is above 10 C (mine are inside right now), there's always something flowering each month and they know where to find it, mine were busy on Christmas day here, but for deep in the winter they sometimes might need additional food. I use small thin blocks of cake icing(make sure it's pure with no chemicals). Off with the roof and crownboard, quickly drop them in, then put them back.

The following year, assuming they have survived the winter, is when things get interesting.

Around about now, May, I'm going to be doing mine shortly, open the hive up, take crown board off and add another super with frames on top and a lift to surround it, then put crown and roof back on.

Provided the weather has been good, come late June, open it up and start harvesting your honey from this top super.

Have new blank frames ready to insert as you take the loaded ones out, you'll need a screwdriver or special tool as they will be secured with propolis, and then be surprised, they are quite heavy.

Get protective clothing and a 'smoker'if you are nervous, oh, and stock up on bee sting balm and above all, stay calm.

What to do with the comb then?

If you don't mind the wax, simply spread it on freshly made toast (watch out for the strengthening wire!)

If you want to separate the honey from the comb either go expensive and get or loan a centrifugal seperator, or do as I do, just put the comb in a muslin sieve inside a funnel, crush it and let it drip into a container in a warm room. you can then put what's left in a container, put it in a pan of hot water and it should further separate but it will start to get discoloured. Incidentally, pure honey never rots, just crystalizes over time. Wonderful stuff.

Have fun.
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2010, 02:52:28 pm »
I was on an environmental course last week regarding climate change, pretty grim to be honest.

Anyway, scientists say that basically were all fuked without Bee's fertilising the plant / crops.

It also went over the rising sea levels and climate change, and the fella looked generally concerned when he said that within 70 years all the water sources in Africa will competly dry up, resulting in mass imigration up towards Europe. 

Basically were all Fuked! 

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2010, 07:36:28 pm »
Ok, starting with the hives.

There are 3 main types popular here in the UK, the National, the WBC and the Commercial.

I have the WBC type, they look nice in the garden and you can them from here, the place I get all my supplies from. You can also pick them up used and pretty complete for around £100 or maybe less. Well worth getting the plastic legs for them as they don't rot.

The types of hive all have slightly different dimensions, derived from experience over the years, and that's what you have to worry about, as the parts are not particularly interchangeable, and dimensions of things are very important to bees.

So with a WBC..the naming of the parts...

At the bottom of the hive you have the 'Base'

It has the sloping bit sticking out for the bees to land on and do their dancing(brilliant to watch) sometimes called the 'lighting' board as that's where they alight, and collectively with the little roof projection, called the 'porch'

On top of this are then the 'lifts'. These are the protective outer layers for the contents and stack on top of each other.

Inside the lifts and protected and insulated by them are then placed the main parts, the boxes.

The bottom box(or 2 stacked if you are ambitious) is called the 'brood' box and as the name suggests it is where the young are raised.

Above the brood box you put a queen excluder, like a grille whose dimensions prevent only the queen from going any higher up and laying eggs in the places where you only want honey. You don't want that to happen.

Into the brood box then go 'frames', evenly and precisely spaced, usually with plastic spacers though I use wood. These are simple wooden shapes that have a bees wax sheet inserted and held together with tiny panel pins. The wax sheet is called brood 'foundation' and is pre-embossed with the correct sizes for 'brood' cells and usually strengthened with a piece of wire woven into it.

Above the brood box(s) go the 'super's. These are usually deeper than the brood box, and are where the bees will store everything they have collected and made and need to survive successfully, primarily honey.

Again, these 'super's are loaded with a precise number of evenly spaced frames, usually deeper than the brood frames, and pre-embossed with the correct size cell base for storage cells.

You can put as many supers as you can manage on the hive, but make sure you have the right number of lifts to cover them.
Typically, most people run with 1 or 2 supers.

On the top of the stacked supers is then a 'crown' board, just a piece of thin wood to close of the top of hive, but what you have to prize off when you collect the honey as the bees produce a reddish coloured resin derived substance called propolis that acts like an all purpose super glue and crack filler and it's really difficult to get it off your fingers and impossible off your clothes. I've warned you....

And then right at the top, placed on this assembled stack, goes the roof.

All you need now is some bees, and this is the best month to pick up a swarm that will work as it will have plenty of time to stock up to survive over winter. So get a jamjar and put a few table spoons of honey in it, pour some caster sugar in to about half way and then fill it up with hot water. Then, and this is an old trick, add a few drops of lemon juice(trust me).

Let it cool, place hive base in suitable slightly elevated place in garden where the porch gets sunlight for most of the day and you'll be happy with it's postion. You really don't want to try and move a fully loaded hive once it gets going.

Put brood box with brood frames in on base and top this with the queen excluder.

Put a super box on top and as you put each super frame into it, using a pastry brush, carefully paint each them with some of the solution and place them in the super. Don't worry if you put too much on, they will soon tidy it up when they arrive.

Stack the lift(s) on around the brood and super(s) and put crown board on followed by roof, and pour yourself a drink.

Now check hive every few days. You may just get the contents quickly robbed so you have to repeat the process, they are sometimes little thieves to each other, but with luck after a few weeks you might find there are lots of bees flying in and out. If you see ones with bags of pollen on their legs going in, you've passed the first hurdle and you've now become a beekeeper. They are now your responsibility.

Now leave them well alone, I have found this is important. Do not start tinkering this year, unless you think something has gone horribly wrong, like mice or shrews have got in, or they decided to move house.

They will keep active throughout the year provided the temperature is above 10 C (mine are inside right now), there's always something flowering each month and they know where to find it, mine were busy on Christmas day here, but for deep in the winter they sometimes might need additional food. I use small thin blocks of cake icing(make sure it's pure with no chemicals). Off with the roof and crownboard, quickly drop them in, then put them back.

The following year, assuming they have survived the winter, is when things get interesting.

Around about now, May, I'm going to be doing mine shortly, open the hive up, take crown board off and add another super with frames on top and a lift to surround it, then put crown and roof back on.

Provided the weather has been good, come late June, open it up and start harvesting your honey from this top super.

Have new blank frames ready to insert as you take the loaded ones out, you'll need a screwdriver or special tool as they will be secured with propolis, and then be surprised, they are quite heavy.

Get protective clothing and a 'smoker'if you are nervous, oh, and stock up on bee sting balm and above all, stay calm.

What to do with the comb then?

If you don't mind the wax, simply spread it on freshly made toast (watch out for the strengthening wire!)

If you want to separate the honey from the comb either go expensive and get or loan a centrifugal seperator, or do as I do, just put the comb in a muslin sieve inside a funnel, crush it and let it drip into a container in a warm room. you can then put what's left in a container, put it in a pan of hot water and it should further separate but it will start to get discoloured. Incidentally, pure honey never rots, just crystalizes over time. Wonderful stuff.

Have fun.


Fantastic info, thanks - really appreciated. The world of bees seems fascinating - better get learning about that, too. I'm almost tempted to put a hive on my allotment but I'm not convinced it would be a popular decision. I guess I'll just have to be patient and learn about it properly before going for it. Hopefully it won't be long before I can observe their behaviour myself.

Thanks again.

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2010, 09:50:38 pm »
I get it! It says BE Mine, and there's a picture of a BEE!
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #25 on: January 5, 2012, 11:32:07 am »
“Zombie” Fly Parasite Killing Honeybees

By Katherine Harmon | January 3, 2012 | 


A parasitic fly landing on a honeybee. Courtesy of Christopher Quock

A heap of dead bees was supposed to become food for a newly captured praying mantis. Instead, the pile ended up revealing a previously unrecognized suspect in colony collapse disorder—a mysterious condition that for several years has been causing declines in U.S. honeybee populations, which are needed to pollinate many important crops. This new potential culprit is a bizarre—and potentially devastating—parasitic fly that has been taking over the bodies of honeybees (Apis mellifera) in Northern California.

John Hafernik, a biology professor at San Francisco State University, had collected some belly-up bees from the ground underneath lights around the University’s biology building. “But being an absent-minded professor,” he noted in a prepared statement, “I left them in a vial on my desk and forgot about them.” He soon got a shock. “The next time I looked at the vial, there were all these fly pupae surrounding the bees,” he said. A fly (Apocephalus borealis) had inserted its eggs into the bees, using their bodies as a home for its developing larvae. And the invaders had somehow led the bees from their hives to their deaths. A detailed description of the newly documented relationship was published online Tuesday in PLoS ONE.

The team performed a genetic analysis of the fly and found that it is the same species that has previously been documented to parasitize bumblebee as well as paper wasp populations. That this parasite hasn’t previously been reported as a honeybee killer came as a surprise, given that “honeybees are among the best-studied insects of the world,” Hafernik said. “We would expect that if this has been a long-term parasite of honeybees, we would have noticed.”

The team found evidence of the fly in 77 percent of the hives they sampled in the Bay Area of California, as well as in some hives in the state’s agricultural Central Valley and in South Dakota. Previous research has found evidence that mites, a virus, a fungus, or a combination of these factors  might be responsible for the widespread colony collapse. (Read more about colony collapse disorder in our feature “Solving the Mystery of the Vanishing Bees.”) And with the discovery that this parasitic fly has been quietly killing bees in at least three areas, it might join the list of possible forces behind colony collapse disorder.


Parasitic fly larva emerging from a dead bee's neck. Courtesy of John Hafernik

The parasitic fly lays eggs in a bee’s abdomen. Several days later, the parasitized bee bumbles out of the hives—often at night—on a solo mission to nowhere. These bees often fly toward light and wind up unable to control their own bodies. After a bee dies, as many as 13 fly larvae crawl out from the bee’s neck. The bees’ behavior seems similar to that of ants that are parasitized—and then decapitated from within—by other fly larvae from the Apocephalus genus.

“When we observed the bees for some time—the ones that were alive—we found that they walked in circles, often with no sense of direction,” Andrew Core, a graduate student who works with Hafernik and a co-author on the new paper, said in a prepared statement, describing them as behaving “something like a zombie.” (Read about other parasites that turn their hosts into zombies in the article “Zombie Creatures.”)

Bees from affected hives—and the parasitizing flies and their larvae—curiously also contained genetic traces of Nosema ceranae, another parasite, as well as a virus that leads to deformed wings—which had already been implicated in colony collapse disorder. This double infection suggests that the flies might even be spreading these additional hive-weakening factors.

The research team plans to track bees with radio tags and video cameras to see whether infected bees are leaving the hive willingly or getting kicked out in the middle of the night—and where the flies are finding the bees in which they lay their eggs. “We assume it’s while the bees are out foraging because we don’t see the flies hanging around the bee hives,” Hafernik said. “But it’s still a bit of a black hole in terms of where it’s actually happening.” Most of the parasitized bees found so far have been foraging worker bees, but even if other groups of bees within a hive are not becoming infected, a decline in the number of foragers in a hive could have a large impact on a hive as a whole. Models of colony dynamics suggest that “significant loss of foragers could cause rapid population decline and colony collapse,” the researchers noted in their paper.

Hafernik and his colleagues hope that the simple way they made their discovery “will enable professional and amateur beekeepers to collect vital samples of bees that leave the hive at night”—with a light trap, for instance—and keep them around for a week or so to observe for any signs of emerging larvae. Pinpointing the extent of this strange bee behavior could be key to stemming colony collapse disorder by possibly allowing keepers to isolate affected populations. If the parasitic fly is just starting to infect honeybee populations, this could be an important move, especially given the newly prevalent mobile commercial hives, which mean that honeybees—and their ailments–are on the move in much greater numbers than ever before.

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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #26 on: January 5, 2012, 11:53:27 am »
The most toxic thing on this planet, without a doubt, is people.

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« Reply #27 on: January 6, 2012, 03:07:09 pm »

Interesting and seems plausible.
We haven't had much hard evidence of CCD here in the UK, just depredations primarily due to varroa.
I must check to see if that parasitic fly is present here in Europe.
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Corky you've spoilt my Coupland CCD theory now!
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #29 on: January 6, 2012, 04:07:42 pm »


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That is mental!


Ive often remarked over the last few years about how we see fewer and fewer bees every year.In my shop,say 5/6 years ago their would always be bees buzzing about during the summer,maybe see the odd 1 or 2 nowadays...Also remember collecting bees as a child ,Never see that anymore.
I remember once as a child I caught a queenie,It didnt last long so i buried it in a match box in the back garden.
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #30 on: January 7, 2012, 08:17:59 pm »
Would love to keep bee's - except my dad is massively allergic to them and a hornet bite would probably kill him outright. Still he loves bees. It's wierd.
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« Reply #31 on: January 7, 2012, 09:34:35 pm »
Lots of bees in Northern Italy until they introduced brown bears into the wild,
the industry is now dying very rapidly.

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« Reply #36 on: January 9, 2012, 04:44:38 pm »
Caused a bit of a buzz this.
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Re: Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2012, 10:47:18 am »
“Zombie” Fly Parasite Killing Honeybees

Or are they?

Bayer CropScience and Bee Deaths

The Big Picture

For several years now there has been a dramatic loss of bees in Europe and North America. As many as 50% to 90% of the bee populations have simply vanished. This is a big deal. Bees are a keystone species – they are vital to the food chain on our planet. An
international study of 115 food crops grown in over 200 countries showed that 75% of crops are pollinated by animals, especially by bees.

At first it was believed that only honeybees were affected, but then bumblebee populations began to decline. The crisis was eventually given a name: Colony Collapse Disorder or CCD.

CCD is Not a Disease

There were initially several theories about the cause of CCDE, including Varroa mites, cell phone radiation and a virus similar to AIDS. However, it has now been proven that the bee deaths are actually the result of poisoning from two known pesticides called clothianidin and imidacloprid –manufactured by Bayer. The trade name for clothianidin is Poncho. The trade names for imidacloprid include Gaucho, Admire, Advantage, Merit, Amigo, Premise, Prothor, and Winner.


Article received anonymously from an alleged agricultural industry insider.

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