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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #200 on: February 26, 2014, 12:06:13 am »

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Your position aside, you realize that your post history and approach is another reason why people are more likely to "attack" you.

Word your concerns and response in a substantive post, (like you just did, minus the hostility) and watch the "attacks" disappear.   

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #201 on: February 26, 2014, 12:09:24 am »
I love how RAWK just attacks me when all my orginal post said was our Away form hasnt been great? Is that not the fucking truth? Man Utd Arsenal and Tottenham all have superior Away form to ours. Nothing in my comment had anything to do with winning the title. It merely stated that our away form hasn't been GREAT is that not the fucking case?

We have a 38% Win record away from home compared to

Tottenham 64%
Arsenal 62%
Man Utd 50%
Chelsea 46%
Man City 46%
Newcastle 46%

We have the 7th best Away record when it comes to Wins yet people are arguing with my point that our away form hasn't been "Great"......

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Average Away Points across the League is 15.5 we have 19

Average Away Wins is 4 we have 5

Is either of those Considerably above the Average?



Never said our Away form has been bad or shit never said we can't win the title with our away form all I said was it hasn't been great and that is the truth.

You can get attacked for literally nothing on here. Best get used to it... Also I agree, Away form could be better, but you have to consider the teams everyone has played, we still have some bottom teams to go and they could increase that win percentage to higher levels by the end of the season.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #202 on: February 26, 2014, 12:13:05 am »
The away form hasn't been great but if we're on 27 games or so that means roughly 13 away games and they include Arsenal away, Everton away, Man City away, Spurs away, Chelsea away, Newcastle away- so just under 50% of our away games have been the real biggies.

To improve on that record we have Southampton, Man U, Cardiff, West Ham, Norwich, Crystal Palace.

I think we can win 4 or 5 of those.
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #203 on: February 26, 2014, 12:15:01 am »
I agree that by the end of the season our Away form should hopefully improve as weve had tougher away fixtures than most up to this point. Lets hope that starts with southampton this weekend.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #204 on: February 26, 2014, 12:33:49 am »
Complete the series . .

3-2,  4-3,  ?-?  Thats my prediction. We will continue to leak goals but come out with one goal better.

Agreed with Allen coming in place of Coutinho to start with, and I'd retain Agger-Skrtel as the CBs.

About time Suarez hurt a defence proper.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #205 on: February 26, 2014, 12:44:50 am »
When is Sakho back we seriously need him

CB pairing and LB and RB choice have been a real headache for Brendan.

I feel he got it wrong dropping Cissokho for Johnson.

Fine Cissokho has been poor but he has improved. Johnson was playing shit before he was injured and should have been dropped ages ago.

Our back four when everyone is fit should be

Flanagan.          Skrtel.         Sakho.            Enrique

For the next game:

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #206 on: February 26, 2014, 12:45:01 am »
Complete the series . .

3-2,  4-3,  ?-?  Thats my prediction. We will continue to leak goals but come out with one goal better.

Agreed with Allen coming in place of Coutinho to start with, and I'd retain Agger-Skrtel as the CBs.

About time Suarez hurt a defence proper.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #207 on: February 26, 2014, 01:07:16 am »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/fa_carling_premiership/256050.stm

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #208 on: February 26, 2014, 01:34:24 am »
To me this seems like a good opportunity to revert to the counter attacking style we played against Everton and Arsenal in particular. Let them push up and we'll hit the gaps they leave with pace. Tough game either way as they are a good wee side.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #209 on: February 26, 2014, 01:36:27 am »
What about this eleven what yall think? Sterling and Johnson as wingback?
   

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Sterling------Gerrard---Henderson----Johnson
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #210 on: February 26, 2014, 01:43:49 am »
What about this eleven what yall think? Sterling and Johnson as wingback?


----------------Mignolet-----------------

--------Toure----Skrtel----Agger--------   
                     
Sterling------Gerrard---Henderson----Johnson
------------------Coutinho------------------
   
------------Suarez--------Sturridge--------------

I like it, and its a good way to shoehorn in important players to the same 11, but not for this game. Toure needs dropping, and we'll need Allen's help in controlling midfield, intercepting, and playing out of congestion. Don't think flanno deserves a drop either. They press hard and Toure will be hurting, and Allen will be necessary I think.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #211 on: February 26, 2014, 01:53:09 am »
I would put stevie g in a defensive role to stop southamptons attacking power. Gerrard is the only one thats capable of defending with confidence, unless skrtel and agger can show their experience and redeem themselves with a quality performance. This lineup would be ideal against the saints
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             Henderson Allen
                 Coutinho
            Sturridge Suarez

Its hard to drop sterling out of the squad with his recent performances, but i really think that playing with 2 creative players like coutinho and sterling impacts our ability to regain possession.
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #212 on: February 26, 2014, 02:00:51 am »
You can get attacked for literally nothing on here. Best get used to it... Also I agree, Away form could be better, but you have to consider the teams everyone has played, we still have some bottom teams to go and they could increase that win percentage to higher levels by the end of the season.

Our away form isn't great but it doesn't have to be great. We win 38 per cent of games away. Good managers win about 50-60 per cent of games in general. If you are very very good at home you can afford to be 'not great' away especially if you are almost unbeatable at home.

Especially considering we are going for 4th then our away form with only Southampton and United away left isn't bad at all and with our home form is enough.

You are going to win a league title if you can win our amount of games at home and win 50%+ away from home.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #213 on: February 26, 2014, 02:06:26 am »
I reckon that we will have to drop either sterling or coutinho to accomodate allen.

Soton will press the crap out of us on saturday. We need more balance in midfield to counter that.
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #214 on: February 26, 2014, 02:11:34 am »
I would put stevie g in a defensive role to stop southamptons attacking power. Gerrard is the only one thats capable of defending with confidence, unless skrtel and agger can show their experience and redeem themselves with a quality performance. This lineup would be ideal against the saints
                        Migs
Flanagan      Skrtel Agger     Cissokho
                    Gerrard
             Henderson Allen
                 Coutinho
            Sturridge Suarez

Its hard to drop sterling out of the squad with his recent performances, but i really think that playing with 2 creative players like coutinho and sterling impacts our ability to regain possession.

I think I agree with that XI. Maybe Sakho for Agger if he is match ready. Either way, we need to have the midfield stacked for that one. A win would be massive.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #215 on: February 26, 2014, 03:09:01 am »
Enrique no, Lucas no, Sakho maybe.

Oh.

Just found this on instagram: http://instagram.com/p/k2MBCeATGJ

Lucas steps up his training. Shouldn't be too late before he's back! :D
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #216 on: February 26, 2014, 04:21:11 am »
Oh.

Just found this on instagram: http://instagram.com/p/k2MBCeATGJ

Lucas steps up his training. Shouldn't be too late before he's back! :D

Hopefully shouldn't be too long, but people were saying earlier he might not be back for this game, and it'll be United instead. Either way it'll be a big boost to have him back. Can't wait.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #217 on: February 26, 2014, 04:33:51 am »
This just might be the hardest game that's left. Can't wait.

I don't think it will. A lot has been made out of this game and I've been really looking forward to it because I know Rodgers will have the team absolutely pumped because he wants to prove Southampton won't always get the better of us. He's probably had this fixture earmarked for a long time as how to approach it.

I will put my neck out on the line here and say Swansea played much better against us than Southampton will, and we won that game.

Rodgers will know exactly what happened there last season in the 3-1 defeat and also earlier this season. He's probably even reviewed video of that game this week.

I think a lot of teams around us are expecting to fall here, and whenever that has happened with our so-called bogey teams this season we have come up trumps (Spurs 5-0 away, Stoke 5-3 away, Arsenal 5-1 home).

I am expecting us to win.
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #218 on: February 26, 2014, 04:43:49 am »
We will batter this lot. 6-5

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #219 on: February 26, 2014, 05:01:13 am »
Hope we'll win this game. 2-1 for us. Brace from sturridge.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #220 on: February 26, 2014, 05:07:20 am »
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #221 on: February 26, 2014, 05:18:33 am »
Repeat performance of spurs away / arsenal home please...
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #222 on: February 26, 2014, 05:20:46 am »
Boring 0 - 0 draw.

Cue somebody questioning my loyalty and optimism.

I made the same prediction for the Arsenal and Spurs game.
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #223 on: February 26, 2014, 05:36:00 am »
Boring 0 - 0 draw.

Cue somebody questioning my loyalty and optimism.

I made the same prediction for the Arsenal and Spurs game.

We don't do 0-0 any more. When was the last time we drew 0-0? must have been ages ago.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #224 on: February 26, 2014, 05:42:14 am »
Toughie.

My first game watching Liverpool was at Southampton, watching that vintage team of Barnes, Beardsley, etc getting thrashed by them 4 v 1 (i think).

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #225 on: February 26, 2014, 05:53:59 am »
We don't do 0-0 any more. When was the last time we drew 0-0? must have been ages ago.

It was none other than Everton. Anfield in the League, 5 May 2013.

We've only failed to score any goals in three games since then. One was away to Arsenal. The other two? The reverse of this fixture, home to Southampton, and then the very next game... Man Utd away, in the league cup.

Hopefully we can right some wrongs in the next two away games...

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #226 on: February 26, 2014, 06:05:12 am »
The away form hasn't been great. That's the truth, but;
Chelsea
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So we've played 6 of the top 8 away from home.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #227 on: February 26, 2014, 06:18:17 am »
We don't do 0-0 any more. When was the last time we drew 0-0? must have been ages ago.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #228 on: February 26, 2014, 06:23:56 am »
More discipline and hunting in packs in midfield, I think that's enough to do the trick. Maybe we need Joe Allen there, but maybe our starting lineup against Swansea could also do the job if they kept their discipline.

We can't really do too much about our *defence at the moment, and the attack is fine, so midfield is where we have to, and can, improve.



*OK, for the defence I suppose we could mull over whether to keep faith with Glen Johnson in the hopes that he just needs more game time to get back his form, or to go with Cissokho who is less creative/skilful but perhaps a little more solid defensively.

CB - it's Skrtel, Agger or Toure for 2 spots. To me, there's not much to choose between them, frankly.
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #229 on: February 26, 2014, 06:30:27 am »
What about this eleven what yall think? Sterling and Johnson as wingback?
   

-----------   -----Mignolet-----------------

--------Toure----Skrtel----Agger--------   
                     
Sterling------Gerrard---Henderson----Johnson
------------------Coutinho------------------
   
------------Suarez--------Sturridge--------------

Not sure I like the three in the back (with 3 CB's) any more than the four that did not work at Anfield.
Four in the back preferably and keep things similar to Swansea except consider subbing Johnson.
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #230 on: February 26, 2014, 06:32:29 am »
The away form hasn't been great. That's the truth, but;
Chelsea
City
Arsenal
Spurs
Everton
Newcastle

So we've played 6 of the top 8 away from home.

In each of these games (other than Arsenal) we have scored first.  This seems to be the telling piece as Southampton do not want to have to chase the game and open up any more than they already have to with SAS and Coutinho
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #231 on: February 26, 2014, 06:33:31 am »
The away form hasn't been great. That's the truth, but;
Chelsea
City
Arsenal
Spurs
Everton
Newcastle

So we've played 6 of the top 8 away from home.

Our away form hasn't been great, but it also hasn't been as utterly terrible as it sometimes seems. 5 wins, 4 draws, 4 losses. 28 scored, 23 conceded. Is that problematic? Yes. Especially compared to our absolutely stellar home form. But it's still a winning record, and I'd say roughly consistent with our ultimate away from last year (7 W, 7 D, 5 L, 38 F, 27 A). A little bit worse, maybe, at least in the goals department but it's still in that rough area. That isn't to say our away form was stellar last year (it wasn't) but I think we have a tendency to look on our away form as being abysmal this season when in fact that isn't really the case. We're mediocre on the road. Maybe a little above mediocre. But because our home form has been so fantastic this year, and then we have on occasion pulled out tremendous away wins like 5-0 at Spurs, it looks like we can't play away from home for shit.

I'll grant you performance-wise we have often looked pretty piss poor playing away from home, but even playing pretty piss poor we've managed to grind out some of those wins and achieve an overall winning record.

Being away from home is probably gonna hurt us a little. I'd say the fact that it's Southampton is going to hurt us more. They seem to have Brendan's number atm.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #232 on: February 26, 2014, 06:46:59 am »
To me this seems like a good opportunity to revert to the counter attacking style we played against Everton and Arsenal in particular. Let them push up and we'll hit the gaps they leave with pace. Tough game either way as they are a good wee side.

I think this is a huge point. I believe it will be a completely different match vs Southampton this time around. They countered very well last time out, while we were focusing on winning the possession game and "death by football." Brendan has learned so much since then and as we've seen, he's willing to adjust styles as needed. I think Rodgers will certainly have the lads set up to counter and hit Southampton in transition. They are a good club and play some lovely football. But if we hit them on the counter, and don't send both fullbacks forward in unison throughout the match, we will win this.
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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #233 on: February 26, 2014, 06:53:10 am »
I think soton have conceded just as many goals as us since the turn of the year. We've scored like twice as many as them though. You'd like to think we would have the edge hear as long as we do professional job. My biggest fear is we leave gaps between  defence and midfield for there three forwards to attack. I think we should play it similar to Everton. We was quite happy to let them have the ball and we broke with pace when the opportunities arrived.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #234 on: February 26, 2014, 07:49:21 am »
Rodgers has to show he's learned his mistakes from last season's defeat there. We need to field our strongest midfield 3 in this: Gerrard Henderson and Allen.
It means only one of Sterling or Coutinho have a place in the starting XI and judging on current form it looks to be Sterling.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #235 on: February 26, 2014, 07:54:27 am »
Rodgers has to show he's learned his mistakes from last season's defeat there. We need to field our strongest midfield 3 in this: Gerrard Henderson and Allen.
It means only one of Sterling or Coutinho have a place in the starting XI and judging on current form it looks to be Sterling.

But you can argue Sterling would be far more effective from the bench and you could even take off a fullback if we are chasing the game.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #236 on: February 26, 2014, 08:14:10 am »
We will batter this lot. 6-5

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #237 on: February 26, 2014, 08:16:24 am »
Allen has played himself into the team.

It's a matter of whether Sterling or Coutinho will be dropped. Sterling has probably been more consistent and deserves his spot.

Good thing is, both of them are great options off the bench if we need to change the game.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #238 on: February 26, 2014, 08:16:42 am »
That's said, you want Sterling on the pitch to push Luke Shaw back.

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Re: Southampton vs Liverpool. March 1st 2014. 17.30 KO
« Reply #239 on: February 26, 2014, 08:20:25 am »
There's been some discussion about the strength of our away form.

Currently we sit at 5W 4D 4L

Average 1st place form [over the last ten years] for away games is 11W 5D 3L.

Average 4th place form [over the last ten years] for away games is 8W 6D 5L.

For our remaining 6 away games, the difference between playing to 1st/ 4th place form doesn't make that much difference.

1st place form would yield us 3W 2D 1L & 4th place form would yield us 3W 1D 2L [11pts or 10pts].

So, it looks like our away points total will be 29/ 30pts which is a tad over average 4th place away form [28pts] and a tad under average 3rd place away form [10W 4D 5L for 34pts].

Some of the goals we've conceded have been very disappointing...but overall...our away form isn't as bad as some are suggesting.

If you look at our away games...most of us would think we're good enough to win 4 of those and shouldn't be scared of losing any.
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