Author Topic: Liverpool Summer tour & pre-season games (Read 587063 times)

BrandoLFC · « **Reply #3800 on:** August 3, 2015, 03:12:48 pm »

Benteke seemed to be pulling out wide a lot similar to how Suarez was for us. Obviously he's no Suarez but I could see Sturridge and him working on a similar level either in a 433 or diamond.

killer-heels · « **Reply #3801 on:** August 3, 2015, 05:39:27 pm »

Quote from: Pradan on August 3, 2015, 02:41:22 pm

There could be issues there. That will require Sturridge playing as a wide forward.

It will just be limiting his impact. It was fine when Chelsea experimented with him when he was younger, but it's not a role he should be going back to now.

So how did Sturridge do it when he played with Suarez? The diamond only kicked in much later in 13-14.

peachybum · « **Reply #3802 on:** August 3, 2015, 05:56:57 pm »

I think if we're getting Benteke and Sturridge in the same side it has to be some variation of 442 or 352. Which wouldn't be a bad thing as we don't really score enough with 4231/433 under Brendan.

I'm surprised we didn't work on 2 forwards more during preseason given we have a good group of 4 strikers and our only wide forward who has any hope of hitting double figures in Firmino.

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #3803 on:** August 3, 2015, 06:00:34 pm »

Quote from: peachybum on August 3, 2015, 05:56:57 pm

I think if we're getting Benteke and Sturridge in the same side it has to be some variation of 442 or 352. Which wouldn't be a bad thing as we don't really score enough with 4231/433 under Brendan.

The only incarnation of a genuine 433 we've seen has been Sterling, Suarez, & Sturridge in 2013-14, and that was devastating. The '433' we played last season was basically a 4141.

If we play 433 with Firmino, Benteke, & Sturridge, we'll score lots of goals.

rickardinho1 · « **Reply #3804 on:** August 3, 2015, 06:09:13 pm »

Quote from: Kopenhagen on August 3, 2015, 06:00:34 pm

The only incarnation of a genuine 433 we've seen has been Sterling, Suarez, & Sturridge in 2013-14, and that was devastating. The '433' we played last season was basically a 4141.

If we play 433 with Firmino, Benteke, & Sturridge, we'll score lots of goals.

This is right.

When we play "433" but with players like Lallana or Ibe as the wide attackers its not really more than a 4141 since neither of them score enough yet.

With 3 genuine striker types capable of getting 10+ goals each across the front you're in business though, presuming the two wider attackers can do their share of defensive work.

Firmino-Benteke-Sturridge could be ridiculously devastating as all three are capable of creating goals for themselves. The only question I'd have is whether Sturridge would be committed to playing on the wing and tracking back enough, but with a boss midfield and Clyne behind him I'm sure his goals would more than offset any defensive downsides.

peachybum · « **Reply #3805 on:** August 3, 2015, 06:11:15 pm »

Quote from: Kopenhagen on August 3, 2015, 06:00:34 pm

The only incarnation of a genuine 433 we've seen has been Sterling, Suarez, & Sturridge in 2013-14, and that was devastating. The '433' we played last season was basically a 4141.

If we play 433 with Firmino, Benteke, & Sturridge, we'll score lots of goals.

I don't think we played 433 with Sturridge and Sterling wide enough games to suggest is was devastating. As far as i remember Sturridge wasn't great wide(especially in his defensive duty) and that's because he simply doesn't like playing there not that he can't. 442D with Sterling as the 10 was devastating. But not with Sturridge wide. Sturridge isn't going to be happy to be moved wide. He didn't look happy moving out there for Luis Suarez. He certainly ain't going to be happy moving for a lesser player in Benteke. Sturridge think's he's a striker and thinks he's the main man, which he should do given his scoring record(not his injury record).

442D with Firmino behind Sturridge and Benteke might work. But again we really don't work on this shape during preseason so it's clearly not something that's Brendan thinking about.

elpistolero7 · « **Reply #3806 on:** August 3, 2015, 06:12:43 pm »

Well Sturridge will have been out for a hell of a long time when he's match fit next.

If Benteke's averaging one in two, its upto Sturridge to do better than that and his general play to take his spot if the manger is going with one up top.

I think once Sturridge is fit, we may see more of the diamond. If not, I don't see Sturridge as the type to complain about being a wide forward, especially if it means him getting regular football once again and being part of a side that can be in contention for the top 4 and perhaps a cup or two.

Benteke, Sturridge and Firmino could be a hell of a front 3. With Coutinho pulling the strings, that attack can match any in the league, but lots of ifs there. Lets see how it goes.

Fordy · « **Reply #3807 on:** August 3, 2015, 06:15:55 pm »

We can't count on Sturridge. Pointless talking about him at this moment.

spider-neil · « **Reply #3808 on:** August 3, 2015, 06:21:06 pm »

Quote from: Fordy on August 3, 2015, 06:15:55 pm

We can't count on Sturridge. Pointless talking about him at this moment.

Devastating weapon to unleash in the second half of the season. We absolutely shouldn't rush him back as there is no need.

peachybum · « **Reply #3809 on:** August 3, 2015, 06:22:01 pm »

Quote from: Fordy on August 3, 2015, 06:15:55 pm

We can't count on Sturridge. Pointless talking about him at this moment.

That's true.

Watching this preseason with us using 433/4231 i'd still change it and play two up front to start the season. I'd much prefer getting Ings in the team at the expense of Lallana or Ibe just to get another goal threat in the box when we're attacking. Of course those wide forwards are capable of cutting in and scoring a wonder strike(and they have done in preseason) but you can't rely on that week in and week out.

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #3810 on:** August 3, 2015, 06:37:11 pm »

Quote from: peachybum on August 3, 2015, 06:22:01 pm

That's true.

Watching this preseason with us using 433/4231 i'd still change it and play two up front to start the season. I'd much prefer getting Ings in the team at the expense of Lallana or Ibe just to get another goal threat in the box when we're attacking. Of course those wide forwards are capable of cutting in and scoring a wonder strike(and they have done in preseason) but you can't rely on that week in and week out.

Fair point on playing two up top, but Lallana & Ibe aren't genuine forwards. I'd also prefer us to play two up top if we're just going to play Lallana/Coutinho or Ibe wide.

Rush 82 · « **Reply #3811 on:** August 11, 2015, 01:34:25 pm »

So, as Arsenal just showed, pre-season really is pretty meaningless as an indicator for how the team will perform in the first game.

They had one of their most successful against pretty strong opposition, and, well, there you go...

TheSoundLady · « **Reply #3812 on:** August 11, 2015, 01:36:26 pm »

Quote from: Cape Town Fan:1982 on August 11, 2015, 01:34:25 pm

So, as Arsenal just showed, pre-season really is pretty meaningless as an indicator for how the team will perform in the first game.

They had one of their most successful against pretty strong opposition, and, well, there you go...

As long as they lose their 3rd Prem match idc about the rest

exiledintheUSA · « **Reply #3813 on:** November 23, 2015, 07:08:22 pm »

Hearing that we are going to be back in the USA next summer. West Coast games too, LA and San Fran.

Samie · « **Reply #3814 on:** November 23, 2015, 07:16:04 pm »

Is it me or do we only do SE Asia/Down Under and the States as our summer tours?

I mean how about trying to go to South Africa or South America maybe? Or heck a Far East tour?

Nessy76 · « **Reply #3815 on:** November 24, 2015, 02:51:51 pm »

Quote from: Samie on November 23, 2015, 07:16:04 pm

Is it me or do we only do SE Asia/Down Under and the States as our summer tours?

I mean how about trying to go to South Africa or South America maybe? Or heck a Far East tour?

They do seem to be locking into a regular pattern now. It's all commercial, we have more fans in those regions. South American tour would be great, though.

exiledintheUSA · « **Reply #3816 on:** March 21, 2016, 09:09:24 pm »

International Champions Cup North America press conference tomorrow in NYC, should we expect to see the reds in this?

john_mac · « **Reply #3817 on:** March 21, 2016, 09:50:29 pm »

Quote from: exiledintheUSA on March 21, 2016, 09:09:24 pm

International Champions Cup North America press conference tomorrow in NYC, should we expect to see the reds in this?

yep

RedSince86 · « **Reply #3818 on:** March 21, 2016, 11:11:08 pm »

I've seen on Reddit that it's Pasadena rose bowl against Chelsea and ACMilan in San fran at the 49ers stadium.

Canada Loves Anfield · « **Reply #3819 on:** March 22, 2016, 12:36:38 am »

Saw something on Instagram that it might be Barca for one of them. ITK!

lfcthekop · « **Reply #3820 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:23:38 am »

Wanted Asia or australia again, show klopp just how good our support is on the other side of the planet

exiledintheUSA · « **Reply #3821 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:07:18 am »

Quote from: lfcthekop on March 22, 2016, 01:23:38 am

Wanted Asia or australia again, show klopp just how good our support is on the other side of the planet

We will

Chakan · « **Reply #3822 on:** March 22, 2016, 03:08:37 am »

Says we're playing Barca, have to find out where though. Must get tickets!

exiledintheUSA · « **Reply #3823 on:** March 22, 2016, 04:30:11 am »

Quote from: Chakan on March 22, 2016, 03:08:37 am

Says we're playing Barca, have to find out where though. Must get tickets!

Heard a rumor that it will be in NE.

stoz · « **Reply #3824 on:** March 22, 2016, 10:47:47 am »

The Instagram picture also shows that us, Chelsea, Celtic, and both the Milan clubs are going to be playing in the USA and Singapore right in the middle of the Champions League and Europa League qualifiers, of which at least two or three of those clubs are likely to be involved in!

john_mac · « **Reply #3825 on:** March 22, 2016, 12:17:48 pm »

Barca game won't be in States

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #3826 on:** March 22, 2016, 12:28:21 pm »

Barcelona in Dublin on 6th August? Definitely going to that if so.

DangerScouse · « **Reply #3827 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:22:40 pm »

Quote from: ǝuoƃǝqǝoM ƃuıʞ on March 22, 2016, 12:28:21 pm

Barcelona in Dublin on 6th August? Definitely going to that if so.

That's the rumour alright Barney, announcement at 2 today i believe.

RainbowFlick · « **Reply #3828 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:30:55 pm »

I'd be up for travelling to the US for a game. Ideally NYC or West coast somewhere.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #3829 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:44:57 pm »

Weekend out in Dublin watching Liverpool play Barca would be boss.

Guessing tickets would be ridiculous though

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #3830 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:47:02 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on March 22, 2016, 01:44:57 pm

Weekend out in Dublin watching Liverpool play Barca would be boss.

Guessing tickets would be ridiculous though

I just checked up on the Celtic sale from a few years ago. Went from STH to all members. Was hoping for some sort of criteria to be honest given the opponents, but obviously highly unlikely. The problem is there will be a shit ton of neutrals just wanting to see Barcelona

chrissimpson81 · « **Reply #3831 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:08:37 pm »

Liverpool Football Club can confirm they will participate in the 2016 International Champions Cup in the United States this summer.

The Reds will be one of 10 clubs competing in the tournament, joining the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Paris Saint-Germain.

Also confirmed as taking part are AC Milan, Inter Milan and Celtic, as well as fellow English clubs Chelsea and Leicester City.

Liverpool’s ICC fixtures are as follows:
•July 27: Liverpool v Chelsea – Rose Bowl; Pasadena, California. 8:30pm Pacific time (4.30am BST, July 28).
•July 30: Liverpool v AC Milan – Levi’s Stadium; Santa Clara, California. 7pm Pacific time (3am BST, July 31).
•August 6: Liverpool v FC Barcelona – TBD European venue. 3pm BST

Ray K · « **Reply #3832 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:11:18 pm »

Quote from: ǝuoƃǝqǝoM ƃuıʞ on March 22, 2016, 12:28:21 pm

Barcelona in Dublin on 6th August? Definitely going to that if so.

It'll be a step down having to watch LFC and FCB lumbering around Landsdowne Road hoofing balls all over the place when we've spent the summer watching Johnny Walters and Glen Whelan leading us to European glory, but it'll have to do.

TheShanklyGates · « **Reply #3833 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:12:47 pm »

A 'friendly' against Chelsea?

Lone Star Red · « **Reply #3834 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:13:09 pm »

This is now the third time LFC are coming to the States since I've become a fan of the club...Awfully tempting.

exiledintheUSA · « **Reply #3835 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:15:57 pm »

Quote from: Lone Star Red on March 22, 2016, 02:13:09 pm

This is now the third time LFC are coming to the States since I've become a fan of the club...Awfully tempting.

Beyond tempting. Followed the Reds all over the globe, glad that they'll be in my neck of the woods this summer (relatively speaking).

exiledintheUSA · « **Reply #3836 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:16:48 pm »

Quote from: TheShanklyGates on March 22, 2016, 02:12:47 pm

A 'friendly' against Chelsea?

In LA too - plenty of Johnny Come Lately glory hunting Chelsea shirt wearers out there.

Mad Max · « **Reply #3837 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:24:15 pm »

Waiting for confirmation of the Liverpool v Barcelona match.

BigSmooth · « **Reply #3838 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:32:59 pm »

Cant wait! I live an hour south of Levi Stadium. It will be my first ever LFC match!

rocco · « **Reply #3839 on:** March 22, 2016, 02:34:37 pm »

Quote from: Mad Max on March 22, 2016, 02:24:15 pm

Waiting for confirmation of the Liverpool v Barcelona match.

Dublin ?