Author Topic: Spiral Series 3 (Read 6729 times)

Gili Gulu · « **on:** March 23, 2011, 11:37:56 pm »

Great news, BBC Four is going to replace The Killing on Saturday nights with the long-awaited series 3 of Spiral

I reckon this should be a more than adequate replacement for those with subtitled-police-procedural-withdrawal after The Killing finishes.

Plus also this heralds the return of a certain flame-haired, naughty lawyer, Joséphine Karlsson played by Audrey Fleurot.

Chaztastic · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2011, 10:15:52 am »

Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, Oui. Oui. Oui.

Fantastic programme. I urge anyone who is a fan of police procedurals (or quality French programming in general) to catch this. The first two series were superb and kudos to the Beeb for partially funding it.

Thanks for the heads up, leftfooter.

underscore · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2011, 12:54:01 pm »

Brillant. Been looking all over the internet for good news on this. I can not wait for this. Absolutely love it - my favourite TV programme. Ever.

I prefer the prosecutor

(name escapes me right now)

Chaztastic · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2011, 03:09:09 pm »

Quote from: underscore on March 24, 2011, 12:54:01 pm

I prefer the prosecutor (name escapes me right now)

I'm guessing you're referring to Pierre Clément (Grégory Fitoussi) for similar reasons leftfooter cited Audrey Fleurot?

Surely Gilou is the most interesting character on the show, while the flame-haired lawyer is pure evil incarnate and - I must say - very convincingly played by the agreeable Fleurot

underscore · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2011, 04:33:49 pm »

Quote from: Red Tsar on March 24, 2011, 03:09:09 pm

I'm guessing you're referring to Pierre Clément (Grégory Fitoussi) for similar reasons leftfooter cited Audrey Fleurot?

Surely Gilou is the most interesting character on the show, while the flame-haired lawyer is pure evil incarnate and - I must say - very convincingly played by the agreeable Fleurot

Gilou is definitely intriguing - was is it series 1 that he was snorting coke with that prostitute?
Laure Berthaud for me is the most interesting. Her private llife is a mess, yet her policing skills, along with her fiesty personality make her the most strong willed person on the show

Chaztastic · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2011, 09:08:40 am »

underscore - yeah, that's the character I was referring to. I don't know what's French for "maverick, loose cannon", but he epitomises it.

And Laure is a beautiful portrayal of complex characterisation. Looks like she had a hard paper round in her youth.

One more shout - also think the guy who plays Juge Roban is superb.

Cracking Left Foot · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2011, 10:53:39 am »

Caught up with both series last week after finding the DVDs on Amazon going cheap.

Brilliant stuff, I'll be interested to see if Gilou's going to go back to his old ways (he seemed remarkably straight in series 2, considering he'd

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ended series 1 taking an overdose and seemed suicidal

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).

Be interested to see if Sammy is still there - although the thought of giving Laure a stable relationship doesn't seem right somehow. And I kind of swing between finding Karlsson ridiculously attractive and having the shit scared out of me.

There were some strange loose ends left at the end of series 1 that were never picked up in series 2 -

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why did Karlsson destroy the evidence that exonarates Leroy of rape? And what was with Judge Roban's strange conversation with Pierre at the end, about him being 'his favourite'? And just how does Roban know so much about swingers clubs? ;-)

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Brilliant show, should ease the pain of The Killing finishing anyway. On a shallow note,

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far preferred Laure when she had long hair.

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Chaztastic · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2011, 11:23:49 am »

Ah, CLF... spoilers galore there.

No-one who hasn't seen it so far needs to know what happens to Laure's hair

Cracking Left Foot · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2011, 03:43:56 pm »

Quote from: Red Tsar on March 25, 2011, 11:23:49 am

Ah, CLF... spoilers galore there.

No-one who hasn't seen it so far needs to know what happens to Laure's hair

Hmmm...you're right, looking back.

Added spoiler tags for anyone who's not seen it!

saoirse08 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2011, 03:44:07 pm »

Thanks for recommending this. Would I need to watch the previous series to begin watching this? If so, I'll track down the DVDs.

Chaztastic · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2011, 04:51:08 pm »

Quote from: Cracking Left Foot on March 25, 2011, 03:43:56 pm

Hmmm...you're right, looking back.

Added spoiler tags for anyone who's not seen it!

Nice one

Quote from: saoirse08 on March 25, 2011, 03:44:07 pm

Thanks for recommending this. Would I need to watch the previous series to begin watching this? If so, I'll track down the DVDs.

I saw the second series before the first, and while in retrospect it would have been useful to know the back story, both series are largely self-contained in terms of their story arcs.

So to answer your question I shouldn't have thought you'd *need* to watch the previous two series, but be good to yourself and do it anyway

saoirse08 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2011, 05:08:04 pm »

Thanks. I've just put the first two series on my Love Film DVD list. Think I'll start at the beginning.

Chaztastic · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:39:29 pm »

No apologies for bumping this, starts on Saturday on BBC4 at 9pm with a double-header.

Those of you who know it already love it and those of you who haven't seen it just don't know that yet.

Chaztastic · « **Reply #13 on:** April 1, 2011, 05:06:28 pm »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/apr/01/spiral-the-killing-bbc4

In an unpleasant location, the body of a young woman is discovered. A detective is called to investigate, who brings not only a high level of expertise, but also a slightly careworn, been-round-the-block level of suspicion and world-weariness. And so begins another quality European detective drama: flawed hero/heroine, institutional cynicism and corruption, wheels within wheels. The crime is solved, of course, but somehow the solution is all faintly tinged with regret, collateral damage and moral compromise....

Enjoy

saoirse08 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 1, 2011, 07:25:44 pm »

Quote from: Red Tsar on April 1, 2011, 05:06:28 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/apr/01/spiral-the-killing-bbc4

In an unpleasant location, the body of a young woman is discovered. A detective is called to investigate, who brings not only a high level of expertise, but also a slightly careworn, been-round-the-block level of suspicion and world-weariness. And so begins another quality European detective drama: flawed hero/heroine, institutional cynicism and corruption, wheels within wheels. The crime is solved, of course, but somehow the solution is all faintly tinged with regret, collateral damage and moral compromise....

Enjoy

That's enough to make me want to watch. Sounds very intriguing. Damn.

Alan_X · « **Reply #15 on:** April 1, 2011, 07:34:58 pm »

Excellent - loved the first two series.

Alan_X · « **Reply #16 on:** April 3, 2011, 10:42:58 pm »

Just watched episode one on iPlayer. Great stuff!

Chaztastic · « **Reply #17 on:** April 5, 2011, 10:46:56 am »

Unfortunately my weekend was such that I haven't had the opportunity to watch the opening episodes yet, but for those who are already a fan - did they live up to expectation? And for the newbies, I'm interested to know what you thought....

Cracking Left Foot · « **Reply #18 on:** April 5, 2011, 11:44:14 am »

I thought both episodes were great - sets up the premise for series 3 nicely.

Spent most of episode 1 wondering where Karlsson was, but she shows up eventually in episode 2. The case is as grim as ever and episode 1 in particular plunges new depths in bleakness.

Laure also seems ever more troubled (there's no sign of Samy, so I guess that didn't work out for her) and even Clemente is incredibly disillusioned.

And, the most important development of all:

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Laure's grown her hair long again. Hooray!

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underscore · « **Reply #19 on:** April 5, 2011, 10:01:24 pm »

Brilliant two episodes. I like how Tintin has been given more lines - in the other two series' he was always seen but never heard.
This two episodes make Judge Roban seem more human too......

Chaztastic · « **Reply #20 on:** April 13, 2011, 01:50:59 pm »

FINALLY got around to watching the first episode of S3. Loving the fact it has picked up pretty much from where it had left off, that Gilou has seemingly become even more of a twat than he was before and....

.... that I still have another three episodes in the can to catch up on. Tres bien!

Chaztastic · « **Reply #21 on:** April 18, 2011, 03:49:39 pm »

Now watched episode 2 of the third series. Only four to catch up on already, but like a fine wine such delights are to be savoured.

Highlights of this episode include:

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Clément's enforced career descent due to refusing to play the game. Idealistic? Naive? Both? And by contradicting Machard will a similar fate await Roban?

Laure's impassioned plea to Gilou and her selfishness uncovered when Gilou sees her note about him on the assignment transfer document.

Gilou's interrogation style in sobering up Tyson. Yep, that'll usually do it.

And Josephine is back and as corrupt, off-hand and cold as ever.

Marvellous.

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Gili Gulu · « **Reply #22 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:29:17 pm »

I'm enjoying this series very much. We seem to have gotten further into the characters' private lives this year, and we know far more about Laure, Gilou and TinTin, Judge Roban and Pierre.

For instance I was astounded to find out Laure was married last season. I had no idea, I just assumed she was single because of her behaviour.

If I was the big policeman or the Arab police lady in Laure's team who show up in a few episodes I'd be worried. They've got the look of Star Trek extras in a red shirt on an away mission. Someone's gonna get it at some point, and it's not going to the Laure, Gilou or TinTin (I hope).

I wonder what the Met would say about British policemen being portrayed in the same way that the French detectives behave in Spiral? I reckon there would have been a right ruckus about it in the press .

underscore · « **Reply #23 on:** April 19, 2011, 12:28:47 pm »

Enjoyed the last 2 episodes, I'm even starting to like Josephine Karlsson in this series.

I wonder what Laure Berthaud actually knows about Ronaldo, she's a woman possessed

underscore · « **Reply #24 on:** May 1, 2011, 07:20:54 pm »

This just gets better and better. Loved yesterday's episodes
Can't wait for Karlsson versus Szabo - that's going to get dirty

Alan_X · « **Reply #25 on:** May 1, 2011, 07:26:23 pm »

Quote from: underscore on April 19, 2011, 12:28:47 pm

Enjoyed the last 2 episodes, I'm even starting to like Josephine Karlsson in this series.

I wonder what Laure Berthaud actually knows about Ronaldo, she's a woman possessed

She knows what he's done and what a monster he is - I don't think there's anything more than that.

Great couple of episodes last night. Brilliant series.

Gili Gulu · « **Reply #26 on:** May 1, 2011, 07:28:51 pm »

Quote from: Alan_F on May 1, 2011, 07:26:23 pm

She knows what he's done and what a monster he is - I don't think there's anything more than that.

Great couple of episodes last night. Brilliant series.

Yup, she's seen it in his eyes. She just know in her gut that Ronaldo is a wrong'un, from the way he behaves, talks etc.

underscore · « **Reply #27 on:** May 1, 2011, 08:56:23 pm »

Quote from: leftfooter on May 1, 2011, 07:28:51 pm

Yup, she's seen it in his eyes. She just know in her gut that Ronaldo is a wrong'un, from the way he behaves, talks etc.

That's female intuition

Quote from: Alan_F on May 1, 2011, 07:26:23 pm

She knows what he's done and what a monster he is - I don't think there's anything more than that.

Great couple of episodes last night. Brilliant series.

I was mildly surprised she wasn't following other leads or suspects. I thought he might have been red herring.

abs-ibs · « **Reply #28 on:** May 2, 2011, 07:18:19 am »

Haven't watched the first two series, but watched the third on recommendation from me pops. Bloody good series. Reminds me slightly of the shield, in that there are rozzers using morally ambiguous techniques to collar their perp. lol

But also damn that red headed lawyer is fit mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Audrey Fleurot?! WOW!

Chaztastic · « **Reply #29 on:** May 4, 2011, 01:52:12 pm »

Been avoiding the thread only because I've fallen so far behind in watching the latest series, but for all you Caroline Proust fans here's an interview with her in today's Guardian. Enjoy

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/may/03/meet-spirals-feminist-anti-hero

Alan_X · « **Reply #30 on:** May 4, 2011, 05:52:53 pm »

Quote from: Red Tsar on May 4, 2011, 01:52:12 pm

Been avoiding the thread only because I've fallen so far behind in watching the latest series, but for all you Caroline Proust fans here's an interview with her in today's Guardian. Enjoy

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/may/03/meet-spirals-feminist-anti-hero

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She would now like Berthaud to fall for a woman, ideally an affair with Josephine Karlsson, the beautiful but scowling lawyer who hates Berthaud's guts. "God knows how it would happen but it could be fun."

Oh my word...

Chaztastic · « **Reply #31 on:** May 4, 2011, 08:15:30 pm »

Quote from: Alan_F on May 4, 2011, 05:52:53 pm

Oh my word...

I know! Le giggité

Alan_X · « **Reply #32 on:** May 7, 2011, 09:56:25 pm »

Quote from: Alan_F on May 4, 2011, 05:52:53 pm

Oh my word...

And that blue dress...

Another great episode. Last one coming up.

Gili Gulu · « **Reply #33 on:** May 7, 2011, 11:47:09 pm »

A really good series again.

Once again they found really outstanding actors for the guest roles. In season 2 the actor playing Aziz the rapper/gang leader was brilliant.
This season the actor playing Ronaldo was excellent. He really oozed evil. Plus the Albanian guys Niko and his mates. They were utter bastards.

I liked the more in depth look into the characters back stories, and how they all ended up feeding back into the legal system.
Judge Roban ended up being a bit of a judicial badass, which I didn't see coming.

I liked the Josephine/Pierre/Szabo storyline too. Josephine just can't seem to extricate herself from the dodgy side of the law.
The whole programme is full of flawed characters, with Berthaud and her headlong pursuit of Ronaldo, dragging along Gilou and TinTin.

Apparently the next season is going to be based in the world of politics.

Alan_X · « **Reply #34 on:** May 8, 2011, 11:16:34 am »

Le Wire

saoirse08 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 8, 2011, 11:38:38 am »

I'm seething with jealousy at all of you who are/having been enjoying this. Even me Da is saying how fucking great it is. And he's 73! Must get the box sets of the first two series asap.

underscore · « **Reply #36 on:** May 8, 2011, 10:33:54 pm »

Loved it from start to finish. The emotion on Laure's face when she finally catches Ronaldo was beautifully done.
Gilou stamping on Vlad, even made me wince.

"Maradonna. Maradonna" Niko, after he gets off the phone to Ronaldo. Made me smile

And Josephine Karlsson isn't always such a bitch.

Chaztastic · « **Reply #37 on:** May 11, 2011, 12:19:01 pm »

This thread is a bit of a torture for me. I'd love to join in the discussion but I still haven't reached the halfway point of the series yet so am bypassing what I'm sure are some well-deserved laudatory posts.

Must. Make. More. Time. To. Catch. Up. Arghhhhh.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #38 on:** May 11, 2011, 07:03:20 pm »

Only started watching this by mistake last year, brilliant show, when is the new one going to start? Not long I hope.

Dam Sodd · « **Reply #39 on:** May 12, 2011, 01:25:10 am »

that was boss reckon i'll get the dvd even though i'll know the denouement oo la la