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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #800 on: March 4, 2012, 02:31:14 pm »
It really isn't Adam, Downing, Henderson or Carroll's fault that they're not as good as we would like them to be. But it is management's fault for thinking that these type of players were the solution to our problems.

Really hope we've learnt from this.

Yep. Kind of the moneybal thing gone wrong. Adam was supposed to help at set peices and downing and carroll were suposed to combine
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #801 on: March 4, 2012, 02:31:45 pm »
Also if attacker is wanted then I think Dembele at Fulham is super player, very creative and talented, can play behind Suarez and give balls to run onto like Forlan for Uruguay.  I think I was reading that is 10m price in contract, this is good price according to my opinion.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #802 on: March 4, 2012, 02:38:32 pm »
We only have 1 priority: a striker who can score goals with game intelligence to read what Gerrard, Suarez, Bellamy, Downing, Kuyt are doing.

We get that striker and we are a far far better team with far far better results.

Getting some midfield help or another winger would be nice, but not critical.

A new striker would make all of our current attacking players that much better.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #803 on: March 4, 2012, 02:42:52 pm »
Absolutely agree. This surely has to be the priority in the Summer. I'm not sure who is available but our right wing needs addressing.

Muniain, Ramirez.  Would work well with suarez, on the otherside IMO. Whether we could get them though is a different matter. Ramirez would be easier to get than Muniain
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #804 on: March 4, 2012, 02:42:56 pm »
The premier league is weak this year and has been in decline for a couple of years now. Look at the champions league this year compared to 3-5years ago when English clubs were in the majority making it to the quarters finals consistantly. Saying were not far off putting the pieces together is wishful thinking imo. Arsenal and chelsea are not going to be as poor as they have been this year. Man city and united will no doubt strengthen and spurs will be able to attract some big players with being in champs league. We are going to have to take drastic steps forward between now and next season just to stay where we are.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #805 on: March 4, 2012, 02:51:32 pm »
Wish he had just kept his mouth shut on the way out

Why what did he say? Are you on about when there was a supposed argument with the staff or that Chelsea are a bigger club?
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #806 on: March 4, 2012, 02:53:54 pm »
Also if attacker is wanted then I think Dembele at Fulham is super player, very creative and talented, can play behind Suarez and give balls to run onto like Forlan for Uruguay.  I think I was reading that is 10m price in contract, this is good price according to my opinion.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #807 on: March 4, 2012, 02:57:13 pm »
Let's sign Pogrebnyak.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #808 on: March 4, 2012, 02:57:54 pm »
another striker who needs 10 shots to hit the target

He is playing CM today, he isnt really a striker more of a Silva type, the player we need. Then get a good striker with decent movement who will make runs for him. But he isnt that good, could be Adam etc MK II

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #809 on: March 4, 2012, 03:02:00 pm »
We have a good squad. We lack a few "match-winners". One or two signings is right, if they are.

I do feel it is a little bit Pinky and the Brain here. "What's the plan this summer?" "The same as it is every summer; to find the new John Barnes"
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #810 on: March 4, 2012, 03:08:00 pm »
another striker who needs 10 shots to hit the target

i agree Dembele is not scoring many goals but I think problem is how we play not that Suarez is bad finishing.

Suarez with Liverpool: 34 games and 10 goals (this is 0,29 goal on one game)
Suarez with Ajax: 110 games and 81 goals (this is 0,74 goal on one game)
Suarez with Uruguay: 52 games and 26 goals (this is 0,5 goal on one game)

OK, English league is maybe hard league but also now Suarez is with better team and should be have more chance to score, also now is more experience player.

My opinion is we are not play the best way for Suarez.  He is not player for lots of crosses from wingers, he is player to run to pass from midfield.  Gerrard can do this passes if he plays as No. 10, Dembele is very good at this also, I think.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #811 on: March 4, 2012, 03:08:05 pm »
Also if attacker is wanted then I think Dembele at Fulham is super player, very creative and talented, can play behind Suarez and give balls to run onto like Forlan for Uruguay.  I think I was reading that is 10m price in contract, this is good price according to my opinion.

good shout realy...even if i prefeur other Fulham player, that is Clint Dempsey...top club material imho.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #812 on: March 4, 2012, 03:09:47 pm »
Only 1 or 2 adjustments?

Huntelaar & possibly Marco Reus.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #813 on: March 4, 2012, 03:10:06 pm »
i agree Dembele is not scoring many goals but I think problem is how we play not that Suarez is bad finishing.

Suarez with Liverpool: 34 games and 10 goals (this is 0,29 goal on one game)
Suarez with Ajax: 110 games and 81 goals (this is 0,74 goal on one game)
Suarez with Uruguay: 52 games and 26 goals (this is 0,5 goal on one game)

OK, English league is maybe hard league but also now Suarez is with better team and should be have more chance to score, also now is more experience player.

My opinion is we are not play the best way for Suarez.  He is not player for lots of crosses from wingers, he is player to run to pass from midfield.  Gerrard can do this passes if he plays as No. 10, Dembele is very good at this also, I think.

this tells not much realy, compare his team mates in Uruguay and Ajax with the ones here + the difficulty of oponent defences in national cups and Eredivision...

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #814 on: March 4, 2012, 03:10:47 pm »
Only 1 or 2 adjustments?

Huntelaar & possibly Marco Reus.


Reus signed with Dortmund in January, will move in summer...

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #815 on: March 4, 2012, 03:12:59 pm »
We have a good squad. We lack a few "match-winners". One or two signings is right, if they are.

I do feel it is a little bit Pinky and the Brain here. "What's the plan this summer?" "The same as it is every summer; to find the new John Barnes"
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #816 on: March 4, 2012, 03:16:38 pm »
A 30 goal a season striker, a right sided midfielder to replace Kuyt, a creative midfielder - 75-80mill- not minor adjustments Mr Comolli unless you are talking about numbers rather than costs.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #817 on: March 4, 2012, 03:21:10 pm »
Reus signed with Dortmund in January, will move in summer...

Bastards.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #818 on: March 4, 2012, 03:23:18 pm »
He is most definitely part of the problem.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #819 on: March 4, 2012, 03:26:58 pm »
Realisticly who is available for us? People say cavani, hazard but i think there gonna be out of reach for us.. Hope im wrong mind you. Maybe the likes of ramirez or isla are more realistic. Think they will be an upgrade on what we have though.. As a team we lack pace, take out downing and bellamy and were too slow. A pacey striker or winger is a must for me imo..Also could do with a attacking midfielder. Not asking for too much am i??
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #820 on: March 4, 2012, 03:31:25 pm »
This is terrible price for them.  I am not criticise these players, I think good squad players and Downing can be effective for us in future (Carroll not sure) but this is crazy price according to my opinion.

i think the exact oposite :D

btw, i think the players Kenny targets are not only quality, but players who realy are proud or should be proud to wear this shirt and be this their dream club and priority....

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #821 on: March 4, 2012, 03:33:59 pm »
Realisticly who is available for us? People say cavani, hazard but i think there gonna be out of reach for us.. Hope im wrong mind you. Maybe the likes of ramirez or isla are more realistic. Think they will be an upgrade on what we have though.. As a team we lack pace, take out downing and bellamy and were too slow. A pacey striker or winger is a must for me imo..Also could do with a attacking midfielder. Not asking for too much am i??

i think players look first on how much they earn, then they deciede about the other stuff... obviously if we play in CL we would have better chance to pick players who want to win something...but some mentioned Sneijder, i think players close to their 30 or players who already won something will go for money only.... if Anzhi Makhalalalalla would make offer for him with sallary like us never could give him, he would go there instead...

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #822 on: March 4, 2012, 03:35:10 pm »
Bastards.

Do like the look of Martin Harnik too.

Harnik... never seen him play this season, ironically this one is his best... before that he was average, not even starter in Stuttgart..but in Austria NT... let´s face it, they don´t have that many talent to pick anyway...

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #823 on: March 4, 2012, 03:35:12 pm »
Realisticly who is available for us? People say cavani, hazard but i think there gonna be out of reach for us.. Hope im wrong mind you. Maybe the likes of ramirez or isla are more realistic. Think they will be an upgrade on what we have though.. As a team we lack pace, take out downing and bellamy and were too slow. A pacey striker or winger is a must for me imo..Also could do with a attacking midfielder. Not asking for too much am i??

I'd say the biggest name we could realisticly get would be Muniain but even that would be difficult. But Isla and Ramirez are fantastic players, add a clinical striker to that and we'd be ok

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #824 on: March 4, 2012, 03:35:53 pm »
We have a good squad. We lack a few "match-winners". One or two signings is right, if they are.

I do feel it is a little bit Pinky and the Brain here. "What's the plan this summer?" "The same as it is every summer; to find the new John Barnes"

The problem is he's only 17, and not ready for the first team yet.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #825 on: March 4, 2012, 03:46:04 pm »
The problem is he's only 17, and not ready for the first team yet.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #826 on: March 4, 2012, 03:49:02 pm »
It really isn't Adam, Downing, Henderson or Carroll's fault that they're not as good as we would like them to be. But it is management's fault for thinking that these type of players were the solution to our problems.

Really hope we've learnt from this.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #827 on: March 4, 2012, 03:50:12 pm »
No way we'll get Martinez. We don't need him anyway, since we've got Lucas. We've got more important positions to strengthen.

Perhaps, we do need more depth in that role though.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #828 on: March 4, 2012, 03:54:14 pm »
We only have 1 priority: a striker who can score goals with game intelligence to read what Gerrard, Suarez, Bellamy, Downing, Kuyt are doing.

We get that striker and we are a far far better team with far far better results.

Getting some midfield help or another winger would be nice, but not critical.

A new striker would make all of our current attacking players that much better.

Agreed. We need a finisher who is strictly a striker no one versatile. Not a jack of all trades. Personally I believe its about time the academy starts producing.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #829 on: March 4, 2012, 03:57:05 pm »
In the absence of an obvious player who we can sell for a huge fee  this year as compared to Torres last year, we need to be realistic in terms of what budget is likely to be available to us in the era of FFP with the almost  certain lack of CL football next season again.

The frustrating issue is that the areas where we are lacking are the areas we have already invested so much cash in and so far haven't seen a huge return from that.

Last year we spent about £75m on 3 attacking players who have scored 9 goals in the league so far this year, we're unlikely to have that kind of budget this year and we have no ability to absorb another transfer window where we seem to hugely overspend for what we get at the top end of the market (pricewise).

In addition to the obvious holes we need to fill we'll also have a few players nearing the end of their careers who will need to be replaced, hopefully at least some of the answers to those questions will come from some of the youngsters.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #830 on: March 4, 2012, 03:58:03 pm »
Well, not really :P

We re-invested the Torres money in Carroll last January. If Chelsea hadn't delivered us £50m crisp notes for Torres we wouldn't have spent £35m on Carroll, simple.

The Summer money wasn't wisely spent admittedly, and as such I severely doubt there'll be another +£100m to buy three world class players this year. We have to accept this is the team now, and barring a few replacements (due to age - Kuyt, Maxi, due to 'other' reasons - Cole, Aquilani) we're likely to only improve a couple of areas for next season I'd have thought.

So because one transfer window when we spend quite a lot didn't go to plan we're gonna stop spending big money then?

I seriously fear that this summer's transfer window is gonna be crucial for the next few years. Chelsea, Arsenal and even Mancs to some extent will have to rebuild this summer. Then there's gonna be an interesting summer for Spurs too. Will Arry get his dream job in the summer? Will some of their key players leave (Modric, Bale etc) or will they be able to keep the current squad and get a couple of good additional players etc.

This season was a great chance to get in the top four considering Chelsea and Arsenal are nowhere near consistent enough but somehow we managed to fuck up big time at most of our home games this season. Next season we might be need to be twice better than we are now to challenge for top four.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #831 on: March 4, 2012, 03:59:57 pm »
Sucks that we're still paying absurd wages to Cole and Poulsen...that absolutely hogties a side with no Champions League income. As for loaning out AA and selling Meireles, those look to be the correct decisions. Henderson and Meireles have been a wash this season, and Henderson can only go up. It was good that we have gotten him a season worth of starts and experience playing in a Final. Aquilani is the same guy as the last few years..great when he plays, but that's a big if.

Maybe I am delusional, but I have high hopes for Shelvey next season and Europa(or CL!!) action should lead to Kenny increasing his faith in him. I'm thinking that the guy to replace next year is Kuyt. Kuyt's made it real hard for Kenny and the staff this season because he picks up a clutch goal or a great 15 minute appearance as a sub. Then you start him and he singlehandedly kills most of the attacking moves throughout the next game. Always works hard and gives his all for the team and an international for one of the best international sides in the world. Really tough to drop a guy like that, but he just hasn't produced for us this season when you zoom out and take a big picture look at the season.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #832 on: March 4, 2012, 04:03:01 pm »
Sucks that we're still paying absurd wages to Cole and Poulsen...

We sold Poulsen, so we are not paying him any wages now. I am sure we gave him a bundle of cash on the way out of the door, but he is not currently getting money from us.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #833 on: March 4, 2012, 04:03:54 pm »
Despite what Comolli says I would be disappointed if we didn't buy 3 players at least this summer.
We clearly need a right winger, we obviously need a striker and if we fail to buy a midfielder I would be very disappointed.
If all went really well we could also get in a young right-sided CB and let Carra move into coaching 
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #834 on: March 4, 2012, 04:05:19 pm »
Maybe I am delusional, but I have high hopes for Shelvey next season and Europa(or CL!!) action should lead to Kenny increasing his faith in him.

I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen more of him this season to be honest, don't think there's a gulf of class between him and our regular starters, huge potential too.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #835 on: March 4, 2012, 04:06:22 pm »
We may have spent big in recent transfer windows but thats mainly down to how much money we have brought in.  I cannot see us spending more than £25m in the summer plus what ever we bring in.  Kuyt & Maxi will bring in very little so I agree that DC is probably only looking at a couple of signings in the £10m-£15m bracket.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #836 on: March 4, 2012, 04:11:13 pm »
We may have spent big in recent transfer windows but thats mainly down to how much money we have brought in.  I cannot see us spending more than £25m in the summer plus what ever we bring in.  Kuyt & Maxi will bring in very little so I agree that DC is probably only looking at a couple of signings in the £10m-£15m bracket.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #837 on: March 4, 2012, 04:16:59 pm »
We really need to make better use of the money we get to spend this summer. Otherwise we could end up being left even further behind.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #838 on: March 4, 2012, 04:20:21 pm »
We really need to make better use of the money we get to spend this summer. Otherwise we could end up being left even further behind.

Massively. A repeat of the summer just past and the new owners will be wondering where their money is going. Quite ridiculous the amount we have spent and the players we have gained. I like Henderson myself, Enrique is a good player, and Bellamy was a bargain; Downing and Adam on the other hand don't seem to be good enough for a Top 4 team, not as first XI players. Carroll really isn't doing himself any justice, if he could show his form at Newcastle however, we would have one helluva player on our hands, unfortunately, it seems like the wrong player at the wrong time for me. He deserves time though as he is only a baby in general target man terms.

Hopefully we'll spend wisely, but the problem with the 'Comolli' situation is that it is unclear who is making the transfers, which is never good.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #839 on: March 4, 2012, 04:23:25 pm »

 but the problem with the 'Comolli' situation is that it is unclear who is making the transfers, which is never good.

Comolli has the ultimate say, but he has the input from many different people and especially Dalglish. What's so bad about that?