Topic: Chelsea v Liverpool: League Cup QF - Tues 29th Nov - 19.45

[XabiArt]

Also if Torres plays, which I fully expect, he's going to be a non-factor. Cheslea would be better off not playing him.

Off to the bookies now then.

[scouser4eva]

Agger hasn't travelled apparently, so I doubt he's playing.

Also if Torres plays, which I fully expect, he's going to be a non-factor. Cheslea would be better off not playing him.

Well done watch him bang in a hat trick now

[Phil M]

Seriously? 30 times?

League, 0405 56 67 78 89 910 11 =13
Champions league, 05, groups in 0506, 07 09 =8
League cup, final 05, this year = 2
FA Cup, 06 =1
Community shield 06 = 1

Thats 25. Im guessing ive missed some more cup games?

According to Sky sports so wouldn't be surprised if they're wrong mate.

[exiledintheUSA]

Agger hasn't travelled apparently, so I doubt he's playing.

Also if Torres plays, which I fully expect, he's going to be a non-factor. Cheslea would be better off not playing him.

Lets hope you're not regreting those words in 6 hours time.

[Number 7]

Off to the bookies now then.

It's probably not a good idea to play Torres against Liverpool. I mean our defenders know him well and whenever he's played against us he's been ineffective.

[eirwen]

It's probably not a good idea to play Torres against Liverpool. I mean our defenders know him well and whenever he's played against us he's been ineffective.

He's only played against us twice, once for 70 min once for 10 min.

[Hazell]

Seriously? 30 times?

League, 0405 56 67 78 89 910 11 =13
Champions league, 05, groups in 0506, 07 09 =8
League cup, final 05, this year = 2
FA Cup, 06 =1
Community shield 06 = 1

Thats 25. Im guessing ive missed some more cup games?

2007 League Cup. Also missed out last season in the league./

[El Denzel Pepito]

It's probably not a good idea to play Torres against Liverpool. I mean our defenders know him well and whenever he's played against us he's been ineffective.

Coates might play though, and Carra would too. Not the most quickest of pairings by any means.

[Arden]

This is incredibly our 30th time playing Chelsea since 2004.
Terry is suspended and Meireles is cup-tied for them.

Crazy.

No wonder we've built up such hate for each other.

[DutchRed]

We played them in the League Cup in 2007 I think. They won 2-0 at their place.

Not sure, but since 2004 may as well include games overseen by Houllier. Think we had a 0-1 victory at their place in jan 04 with a Cheyrou goal, if memory serves me right.

[JerseyKloppite]

Seriously? 30 times?

League, 0405 56 67 78 89 910 11 =13
Champions league, 05, groups in 0506, 07 09 =8
League cup, final 05, this year = 2
FA Cup, 06 =1
Community shield 06 = 1

Thats 25. Im guessing ive missed some more cup games?

Errrrm...
PL: 2 games a season, from 2004/2005 to 2010/2011, and our one game this year = 15
CL: semis in 2005, group stage in 2006, semis in 2007, semis in 2008, QFs in 2009 = 10
LC: final in 2005, R4 in 2007, QF in 2011 = 3
FA: 2006 = 1
Charity Shield = 1
_______________
30

[Didi_ram]

Coates Carra vs Torres isnt something that could be very easy for our defenders.

[XabiArt]

Seriously? 30 times?

League, 0405 56 67 78 89 910 11 =13
Champions league, 05, groups in 0506, 07 09 =8
League cup, final 05, this year = 2
FA Cup, 06 =1
Community shield 06 = 1

Thats 25. Im guessing ive missed some more cup games?

Add champions league in 08 as well. Riise OG.

Thats 27.

Can remember a league cup game where Shevchenko scored. (0708)

28.

If you add a league game at the beginning of 2004 (before rafa and mourinho) makes 29. So im missing one somewhere. Annoying.

[Hank Scorpio]

If Chelsea are playing kids, and I'd imagine they probably will given that they have Newcastle away and a CL decider in the next 8 days, then if we play anything resembling a first team we have a real chance.

Depending on the condition of the players might be worth playing Suarez, Lucas, Adam etc.  You would expect Bellamy and Maxi to be definites.

We have Fulham next Monday so that may influence the selection too.

[El Denzel Pepito]

Add champions league in 08 as well. Riise OG.

Thats 27.

Can remember a league cup game where Shevchenko scored. (0708)

28.

If you add a league game at the beginning of 2004 (before rafa and mourinho) makes 29. So im missing one somewhere. Annoying.

Errrrm...
PL: 2 games a season, from 2004/2005 to 2010/2011, and our one game this year = 15
CL: semis in 2005, group stage in 2006, semis in 2007, semis in 2008, QFs in 2009 = 10
LC: final in 2005, R4 in 2007, QF in 2011 = 3
FA: 2006 = 1
Charity Shield = 1
_______________
30

[XabiArt]

Errrrm...
PL: 2 games a season, from 2004/2005 to 2010/2011, and our one game this year = 15
CL: semis in 2005, group stage in 2006, semis in 2007, semis in 2008, QFs in 2009 = 10
LC: final in 2005, R4 in 2007, QF in 2011 = 3
FA: 2006 = 1
Charity Shield = 1
_______________
30

[Sinead7]

This is incredibly our 30th time playing Chelsea since 2004.
Terry is suspended and Meireles is cup-tied for them.

Probably me being stupid but how is Meireles cup-tied?

[Azi]

Coates Carra vs Torres isnt something that could be very easy for our defenders.

expext nando to score a hat-trick now 

[El Denzel Pepito]

Probably me being stupid but how is Meireles cup-tied?

Played in the League Cup for us vs Exeter.

[the_red_pill]

Seriously? 30 times?

League, 0405 56 67 78 89 910 11 =13
Champions league, 05, groups in 0506, 07 09 =8
League cup, final 05, this year = 2
FA Cup, 06 =1
Community shield 06 = 1

Thats 25. Im guessing ive missed some more cup games?

20/11/11, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 2  (0 : 1) (1 : 1)
06/02/11, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 1  (0 : 0) (0 : 1)
07/11/10, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    2 : 0  (2 : 0) (0 : 0)
02/05/10, 14:30   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    0 : 2  (0 : 1) (0 : 1)
04/10/09, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    2 : 0  (0 : 0) (2 : 0)
14/04/09, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    4 : 4  (0 : 2) (4 : 2)
08/04/09, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 3  (1 : 1) (0 : 2)
01/02/09, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    2 : 0  (0 : 0) (2 : 0)
26/10/08, 14:30   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 1  (0 : 1) (0 : 0)
30/04/08, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    3 : 2  (1 : 0) (0 : 1) n.V.
22/04/08, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 1  (1 : 0) (0 : 1)
10/02/08, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)
19/12/07, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    2 : 0  (0 : 0) (2 : 0)
19/08/07, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 1  (1 : 0) (0 : 1)
01/05/07, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    5 : 1  (1 : 0) (0 : 0) n.V.
25/04/07, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 0  (1 : 0) (0 : 0)
20/01/07, 13:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    2 : 0  (2 : 0) (0 : 0)
17/09/06, 14:30   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 0  (1 : 0) (0 : 0)
13/08/06, 16:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 2  (1 : 1) (0 : 1)
22/04/06, 18:15   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 2  (0 : 1) (1 : 1)
05/02/06, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    2 : 0  (1 : 0) (1 : 0)
06/12/05, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)
02/10/05, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 4  (1 : 2) (0 : 2)
28/09/05, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)
03/05/05, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 0  (1 : 0) (0 : 0)
27/04/05, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)
27/02/05, 16:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    2 : 3  (1 : 0) (0 : 1) n.V.
01/01/05, 13:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    0 : 1  (0 : 0) (0 : 1)
03/10/04, 17:05   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 0  (0 : 0) (1 : 0)
07/01/04, 21:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 1  (0 : 1) (0 : 0)

That's 30.
We've won 10, they've won 12. We've had the shorter end of the stick when it comes down to home-games, with a whopping 13 home-games and Chelsea with a paltry 17.

From:

http://fussball.wettpoint.com/en/h2h/19-4.html

[farawayred]

What's with everyone having Pepe in their team? He should be rested, end of. Last game he ran more distance and made more tackles than the entire last season...

[Arden]

Those two group games in 05/06 were fuckin dire 

[Didi_ram]

Going by the not-started on Sunday stat,Bellamy Carroll Coates Carra Kelly Jay Maxi should start.Toss up for the other 4 places.Id say Pepe Enrique(if Aurelio isnt in the squad) Lucas and Kuyt.

[the_red_pill]

20/11/11, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 2  (0 : 1) (1 : 1)
06/02/11, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 1  (0 : 0) (0 : 1)
07/11/10, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    2 : 0  (2 : 0) (0 : 0)
02/05/10, 14:30   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    0 : 2  (0 : 1) (0 : 1)
04/10/09, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    2 : 0  (0 : 0) (2 : 0)
14/04/09, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    4 : 4  (0 : 2) (4 : 2)
08/04/09, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 3  (1 : 1) (0 : 2)
01/02/09, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    2 : 0  (0 : 0) (2 : 0)
26/10/08, 14:30   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 1  (0 : 1) (0 : 0)
30/04/08, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    3 : 2  (1 : 0) (0 : 1) n.V.
22/04/08, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 1  (1 : 0) (0 : 1)
10/02/08, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)
19/12/07, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    2 : 0  (0 : 0) (2 : 0)
19/08/07, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 1  (1 : 0) (0 : 1)
01/05/07, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    5 : 1  (1 : 0) (0 : 0) n.V.
25/04/07, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 0  (1 : 0) (0 : 0)
20/01/07, 13:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    2 : 0  (2 : 0) (0 : 0)
17/09/06, 14:30   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 0  (1 : 0) (0 : 0)
13/08/06, 16:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 2  (1 : 1) (0 : 1)
22/04/06, 18:15   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 2  (0 : 1) (1 : 1)
05/02/06, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    2 : 0  (1 : 0) (1 : 0)
06/12/05, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)
02/10/05, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 4  (1 : 2) (0 : 2)
28/09/05, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)
03/05/05, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    1 : 0  (1 : 0) (0 : 0)
27/04/05, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)
27/02/05, 16:00   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    2 : 3  (1 : 0) (0 : 1) n.V.
01/01/05, 13:45   Liverpool - Chelsea    FT    0 : 1  (0 : 0) (0 : 1)
03/10/04, 17:05   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    1 : 0  (0 : 0) (1 : 0)
07/01/04, 21:00   Chelsea - Liverpool    FT    0 : 1  (0 : 1) (0 : 0)

That's 30.
We've won 10, they've won 12. We've had the shorter end of the stick when it comes down to home-games, with a whopping 13 home-games and Chelsea with a paltry 17.

From:

A breakdown:

England Premier LeaguePremier League (England)
20/11/11, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool   1 : 2  (0 : 1) (1 : 1)    12. Gameday
06/02/11, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool   0 : 1  (0 : 0) (0 : 1)    26. Gameday
07/11/10, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea   2 : 0  (2 : 0) (0 : 0)    11. Gameday
02/05/10, 14:30   Liverpool - Chelsea   0 : 2  (0 : 1) (0 : 1)    37. Gameday
04/10/09, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool   2 : 0  (0 : 0) (2 : 0)    8. Gameday
01/02/09, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea   2 : 0  (0 : 0) (2 : 0)    24. Gameday
26/10/08, 14:30   Chelsea - Liverpool   0 : 1  (0 : 1) (0 : 0)    9. Gameday
10/02/08, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool   0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)    26. Gameday
19/08/07, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea   1 : 1  (1 : 0) (0 : 1)    3. Gameday
20/01/07, 13:45   Liverpool - Chelsea   2 : 0  (2 : 0) (0 : 0)    23. Gameday
17/09/06, 14:30   Chelsea - Liverpool   1 : 0  (1 : 0) (0 : 0)    5. Gameday
05/02/06, 17:00   Chelsea - Liverpool   2 : 0  (1 : 0) (1 : 0)    25. Gameday
02/10/05, 17:00   Liverpool - Chelsea   1 : 4  (1 : 2) (0 : 2)    8. Gameday
01/01/05, 13:45   Liverpool - Chelsea   0 : 1  (0 : 0) (0 : 1)    20. Gameday
03/10/04, 17:05   Chelsea - Liverpool   1 : 0  (0 : 0) (1 : 0)    8. Gameday
07/01/04, 21:00   Chelsea - Liverpool   0 : 1  (0 : 1) (0 : 0)    20. Gameday

UEFA Champions League 1/4 FinalChampions League 1/4 Final (UEFA)
14/04/09, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool   4 : 4  (0 : 2) (4 : 2)    
08/04/09, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea   1 : 3  (1 : 1) (0 : 2)    

UEFA Champions League 1/2 FinalChampions League 1/2 Final (UEFA)
30/04/08, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool   3 : 2  (1 : 0) (0 : 1) n.V.    
22/04/08, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea   1 : 1  (1 : 0) (0 : 1)    
01/05/07, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea   5 : 1  (1 : 0) (0 : 0) n.V.    
25/04/07, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool   1 : 0  (1 : 0) (0 : 0)    
03/05/05, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea   1 : 0  (1 : 0) (0 : 0)    
27/04/05, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool   0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)    

England Carling CupCarling Cup (England)
19/12/07, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool   2 : 0  (0 : 0) (2 : 0)    Quarter Finals
27/02/05, 16:00   Liverpool - Chelsea   2 : 3  (1 : 0) (0 : 1) n.V.    Final

England Community ShieldCommunity Shield (England)
13/08/06, 16:00   Chelsea - Liverpool   1 : 2  (1 : 1) (0 : 1)    Final

England FA CupFA Cup (England)
22/04/06, 18:15   Chelsea - Liverpool   1 : 2  (0 : 1) (1 : 1)    Semi Finals

UEFA Champions League Gr.GChampions League Gr.G (UEFA)
06/12/05, 20:45   Chelsea - Liverpool   0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)    6. Round
28/09/05, 20:45   Liverpool - Chelsea   0 : 0  (0 : 0) (0 : 0)    2. Round

[petecolonia]

Have any 2 teams from the big leagues played against each other that much apart from us?! Kinell......

[The 5th Benitle]

Hoping some get a well deserved rest, but that we put out a blend of first teamers and others who deserve a chance, something like:
 
Reina
Kelly Carra Coates Aurelio
Henderson Spearing Adam/Lucas
Maxi Carroll Bellamy
 
The key of course is to get players who are first team quality but didn't play 90 on Sunday in the side.
 
Has Bellamy travelled?

[the_red_pill]

Have any 2 teams from the big leagues played against each other that much apart from us?! Kinell......

Don't think so- its regarded as the most contested fixture among the big leagues/biggies.

[XabiArt]

Bellamy has travelled, yes.

[The 5th Benitle]

Any chance that Coady will play? I think Jay should start but Lucas, Hendo and Adam all need a rest after Sunday. Tricky one, at least one of them will play I would have thought.

[El Denzel Pepito]

Ecceleston's got a good chance of being on the bench I reckon.

I repeat, ECCLESTON. NOT ECCLESTONE.

[dnkw]

Has Bellamy travelled?

Yes - he apparently travelled down separately

[The 5th Benitle]

Tonight is going to be the night Antique Arrow catches fire.

[rocco]

Suarez and Lucas are the only 2 I feel needs the rest the most and I'd rest Agger .

But feel Kenny is going to at a strong side

[roughandREDy]

Hoping some get a well deserved rest, but that we put out a blend of first teamers and others who deserve a chance, something like:
 
Reina
Kelly Carra Coates Aurelio
Henderson Spearing Adam/Lucas
Maxi Carroll Bellamy
 
The key of course is to get players who are first team quality but didn't play 90 on Sunday in the side.
 
Has Bellamy travelled?

Agree thats the most likely depending on Aurelio's fitness.  Not so sure on Adam/Lucas but couldn't tell you who would replace them. 

[paulrazor]

Errrrm...
PL: 2 games a season, from 2004/2005 to 2010/2011, and our one game this year = 15
CL: semis in 2005, group stage in 2006, semis in 2007, semis in 2008, QFs in 2009 = 10
LC: final in 2005, R4 in 2007, QF in 2011 = 3
FA: 2006 = 1
Charity Shield = 1
_______________
30

31 counting january 2004?

[hassinator]

No Torres? Not wanting to carry on what's going on in the Torres thread but he didn't start on Saturday, it would be very surprising if he didn't start today.

unless they've made up their mind to sell him and don't want him getting injured before the window opens?

[Sinead7]

Its refreshing to see how strong our 'B' team is now.

[Didi_ram]

unless they've made up their mind to sell him and don't want him getting injured before the window opens?

Isnt it too early to start doing that?
Dont know what the situation is with him,but he wouldnt be lasting long there,that's a cert.

[hassinator]

 
Has Bellamy travelled?

i believe he has - spotted on the train travelling with lfc yesterday.

he will have a point to prove i think.

do you think 4-3-3 away from home?

[ritzio]

any idea if Suso is on the squad?