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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #80 on: August 4, 2015, 07:10:19 pm »
She didn't.

Her father was involved with the dock strikes.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #81 on: August 4, 2015, 08:17:24 pm »
Tim, That's not why I am less than mournful at her passing. What pissed me off totally was she actively applauded - moreover she bloody lauded Thatcher - after all that the auld witch had done to attack and destroy the communities of working people of this land. Not forgetting of course, in the full knowledge that the bitch specifically targeted Liverpool for specific attention. How does she or indeed you square that circle?

Johnno - I just don't feel the anger towards her for her political leanings being so skewed and for her apparently being so blindly unaware of the Thatcher crimes against her home city. As I see it I doubt you could count on more than one hand the number of entertainers of her ilk who display any real awareness of such stuff and certainly any who are prepared to stand up and be counted on that score. My own take on it has always been that she would merely have been following whatever tack her husband chose to adopt. My take might be mistaken but I'd very much doubt it. 

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #82 on: August 4, 2015, 08:36:59 pm »
I respect your view but I simply cannot share it mate.

Cilla was no dumbo and she HAD to have been aware of what Thatcher was at yet turned a blind eye . Unforgiveable - especially as me and her might have been related down the track a ways!!
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #83 on: August 4, 2015, 08:57:19 pm »
She knew, but she and many others of her ilk had the attitude of "I pulled myself up by my bootstraps, so should everyone else" Thatcher gave them lower taxes, which in that industry means a lot, principles go out the fucking window with loads of them when they are asked to pay tax. "No, I earned it, I earned it all, I should get to keep every single little penny wah wah wah fuck everyone else"

Seen it first hand, with scousers as well, who made it, so should know better, but still voted for that old slag purely on the basis of lower taxes. Actually had it said to me "yes I voted for Thatcher, she made sure we didn't have to pay as much tax, everyone voted for her" Everyone being those in their music industry soggy wank biscuit circle.
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #84 on: August 4, 2015, 09:05:43 pm »
Johnno - I just don't feel the anger towards her for her political leanings being so skewed and for her apparently being so blindly unaware of the Thatcher crimes against her home city. As I see it I doubt you could count on more than one hand the number of entertainers of her ilk who display any real awareness of such stuff and certainly any who are prepared to stand up and be counted on that score. My own take on it has always been that she would merely have been following whatever tack her husband chose to adopt. My take might be mistaken but I'd very much doubt it.

Her husband was also a tory.
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #85 on: August 4, 2015, 09:19:41 pm »
Nowt to do with Cilla this but was working down in Malvern about 15 years ago and in the bar at the hotel which wasn't too far away from military Defence Research Establishment and lots of military "visitors" stayed there too.
This fella was holding court and gobbing off about Labour's high taxes and how he had to pay 40% or whatever. I put my beer down, looked at him and said "You're military aren't you? Yes says he "why?"

I asked his rank and he said he was a major. I said "given he was about 35 36 and had accommodation, transport, all found and batmen waiting on him hand and foot, seemed to me that he was on a very tasty screw and got to keep far more of the 60% that's left than I do when I pay my 40%!" He supped up and fucked off.
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #86 on: August 4, 2015, 10:47:33 pm »
Johnno - I just don't feel the anger towards her for her political leanings being so skewed and for her apparently being so blindly unaware of the Thatcher crimes against her home city. As I see it I doubt you could count on more than one hand the number of entertainers of her ilk who display any real awareness of such stuff and certainly any who are prepared to stand up and be counted on that score. My own take on it has always been that she would merely have been following whatever tack her husband chose to adopt. My take might be mistaken but I'd very much doubt it. 

Paul O'Grady was her best mate - and he is as anti Tory as you can get - she must have known his views
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #87 on: August 4, 2015, 10:50:58 pm »
I know no-one personally knows her, so they don't have any obligation to feel particularly sad or act on anything other than what they do know about her, so I'm not asking that at all, don't worry, just my take.

But there are no doubt countless of good people that voted for Thatcher, countless good people that probably made similar proclamations across dinner tables or in pubs to wot Cilla did. I know my Mum votes Conservatives, don't know whether she voted for Thatcher, but needless to say she's not an evil heartless Tory, and obviously it would be incredibly irrelevant when she does pass away.

Personally save my ire for the ideologies and those in power that enact them and seek to enact them in particular heartless ways. Obviously with that being said, there are a lot of people that are c*nts and vote for parties for cuntish reasons, but I'd like to think there are more people that just hold different views (they are ill-informed I'd tell them) with no particularly cuntish intentions.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #88 on: August 4, 2015, 10:53:43 pm »
They wouldn't be able to enact that power if people didn't vote for them
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #89 on: August 4, 2015, 10:57:15 pm »
An amazing career.

It's only when you watch all the telly clips that you realise just how amazing it was, just how prominent she became within the British psyche over such a long period within the both the entertainment fields in which she starred and just how unique it actually is for any artist of any type to make and sustain such an impact across such a period, let alone do it whilst appealing across the generations.

Reflecting upon FB's fine post I find that with myself the emotion I feel is not so much for her passing because I was in no way a huge fan but rather it's for the whole Liverpool connection thingie and especially when listening to ordinary folks [as distinct from Pete Price  ;D ] expressing their particular sadness over their fondness for an icon they perceived rightly or wrongly as an ordinary Liverpool girl made good. For me it's that genuine expression of emotional connection that invokes my own sense of emotion.

Of course, for the likes of myself who grew up through Cilla's pop star years dismissing her and her songs/singing as so much middle of the road crap it's only now as you listen more closely that you realise just how wrong and misguided such instinctive youthful conclusions can be about such things. Sure she was never a Dusty or Aretha or indeed a Dionne but the sort of vocal distinctiveness she brought to each song she tackled was actually a rare gift emulated only by the few. And as you listen and explore a bit you realise there were some great songs amidst some sweet yet soulful and very ernestly and powerfully delivered singing.

As for her being a multi-millionare entertainer deserting her roots and flouting her right wing political leanings - I'll simply say as a lifelong socialist I fail to comprehend the apparent contempt for her felt by some. For me such behaviour by those within her line of business is surely par for the course. Sure I'd never follow such a course myself. Then again I don't have buck teeth and 10 million in a safe.

Anyroad. From me it's tara Cilla luv. You were clearly one of a kind and it served you more than well. You'll clearly be sorely missed by many.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #90 on: August 4, 2015, 11:07:08 pm »
Paul O'Grady was her best mate - and he is as anti Tory as you can get - she must have known his views

Think she only became mates with Paul O'Grady fairly late in her life, and her last words on politics was that she was apolitical. Maybe he had an impact, maybe he didn't. Maybe her husband had an impact on her views, maybe he didn't.

They wouldn't be able to enact that power if people didn't vote for them

I really do think you have to know more about a person than the party they voted for to make any real judgement on their character.

For me, that kind of attitude is akin (and this is just the first example that popped into my head) to people who don't eat meat thinking (only a minority here) that everyone that does is a massive c*nt. People holding different perspective is a part of life, even when you disagree with them on something you think is very important, in my experience, most of the time that isn't what defines them.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #91 on: August 4, 2015, 11:20:40 pm »
Too many people, who become rich forget their roots.

They become tories and forget these self serving hypocrites sneered at them when they were poor.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #92 on: August 5, 2015, 08:20:04 am »
Think she only became mates with Paul O'Grady fairly late in her life, and her last words on politics was that she was apolitical. Maybe he had an impact, maybe he didn't. Maybe her husband had an impact on her views, maybe he didn't.

I really do think you have to know more about a person than the party they voted for to make any real judgement on their character.

For me, that kind of attitude is akin (and this is just the first example that popped into my head) to people who don't eat meat thinking (only a minority here) that everyone that does is a massive c*nt. People holding different perspective is a part of life, even when you disagree with them on something you think is very important, in my experience, most of the time that isn't what defines them.

erm - my statement is not a judgment on anyone's character - I simply made the observation that the Tory elite could not enforce their policies unless people voted them in to do so
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #94 on: August 5, 2015, 10:23:31 am »
http://www.pprune.org/cabin-crew/300180-who-your-nicest-celebs.html

Ha ha - You can't beat some cast iron reliable info from 2007 dug out by someone without an agenda

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Her she is enjoying a scran with Kelvin the Twat. Don't click link if you cannot stomach it.



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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #95 on: August 5, 2015, 10:26:27 am »
Boss post T...

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« Reply #96 on: August 5, 2015, 10:58:57 am »
Ha ha - You can't beat some cast iron reliable info from 2007 dug out by someone without an agenda

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Glad you find it funny. No agenda. Don't think many people knew she had "a feet under the table" with well known Liverpool lover Kelvin McKenzie.
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« Reply #97 on: August 5, 2015, 11:07:24 am »
Glad you find it funny. No agenda. Don't think many people knew she had "a feet under the table" with well known Liverpool lover Kelvin McKenzie.

I do wonder if she had a fucking clue who the evil c*nt was or more to the point the terrible wrongdoing he had purpetrated and represented and I'm pretty sure had she done so she'd have done more about it than we'd both have ever done.

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« Reply #98 on: August 5, 2015, 12:07:34 pm »
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« Reply #99 on: August 5, 2015, 12:16:37 pm »
I would have thought she would have known McKenzie and who he had worked for. Maybe I'm being presumptuous there, in the same way you have done with your views of what I have done or would do regarding rat face.
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« Reply #100 on: August 5, 2015, 12:26:50 pm »
I would have thought she would have known McKenzie and who he had worked for. Maybe I'm being presumptuous there, in the same way you have done with your views of what I have done or would do regarding rat face.

Just altered my response to be a bit less Tom petty!

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #101 on: August 5, 2015, 12:47:42 pm »
erm - my statement is not a judgment on anyone's character - I simply made the observation that the Tory elite could not enforce their policies unless people voted them in to do so

I'm not sure why you thought this wouldn't be clear to me

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #102 on: August 5, 2015, 12:52:45 pm »
I do wonder if she had a fucking clue who the evil c*nt was or more to the point the terrible wrongdoing he had purpetrated and represented and I'm pretty sure had she done so she'd have done more about it than we'd both have ever done.

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She knew exactly who he was. She was in the entertainments industry, he was the editor of the biggest tabloid while she was at the height of her tv fame. There is absolutely no way on gods green earth she didn't know.
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #103 on: August 5, 2015, 01:41:18 pm »
She knew exactly who he was. She was in the entertainments industry, he was the editor of the biggest tabloid while she was at the height of her tv fame. There is absolutely no way on gods green earth she didn't know.

Sorry mate. I didn't make myself clear. Clearly she knew who he was but what we forget is that other than an initial shock/upset at the time of the tragedy, the interest of someone like Cilla in the trials and tribulations and wrongdoings concerning Hillsborough and its aftermath will have been close to nil. As such the significance of the man we know to be such a wicked agent of the tragedy's heinous misrepresentation would have been entirely lost on someone like Cilla.

Let me give you an example.

When I went to visit Phil and Hilda hammond around the time of the Clough outburst, they had virtually been forgotten about by the Liverpool supporting 'family'. Nobody save for Phil Scraton and Sheila Coleman and a handful of others was representing their case. It was the days before the forums etc and it had not by then become the 'fashionable to show your support' phenomenon that it was soon to grow into.

Now just like the Liverpool supporting family prior to it becoming fashionable, a showbiz personna such as Cilla will NEVER have been exposed to the very real and wicked realities purpotrated by mcKenzie and his ilk. For that reason just as I would never dream for one moment of condemning those 'missing thousands of Reds' for failing to demonstrate their support for the families at the sparsely attended annual remembrance services in those early 'wilderness' years I would correspondingly not deem it appropriate to presume that someone such as Cilla cow-towed with a c*nt like Mckenzie whilst knowing full well just how heinous a creature he was, just what the implications of what he'd done were and just how much suffering they had inflicted on the families and so many Liverpudlians.

Hopefully, that makes it clearer why I just don't accept that such condemnation is as warranted as you see it. There's certainly woeful character judgement on her behalf but I see it stemming more from ignorance on her part than any wilful support of a c*nt like mcKenzie and certainly no wilful slight against the Hillsborough victims and families or Liverpool/Liverpudlians. 

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #104 on: August 5, 2015, 02:08:41 pm »
Sorry mate. I didn't make myself clear. Clearly she knew who he was but what we forget is that other than an initial shock/upset at the time of the tragedy, the interest of someone like Cilla in the trials and tribulations and wrongdoings concerning Hillsborough and its aftermath will have been close to nil. As such the significance of the man we know to be such a wicked agent of the tragedy's heinous misrepresentation would have been entirely lost on someone like Cilla.

Let me give you an example.

When I went to visit Phil and Hilda hammond around the time of the Clough outburst, they had virtually been forgotten about by the Liverpool supporting 'family'. Nobody save for Phil Scraton and Sheila Coleman and a handful of others was representing their case. It was the days before the forums etc and it had not by then become the 'fashionable to show your support' phenomenon that it was soon to grow into.

Now just like the Liverpool supporting family prior to it becoming fashionable, a showbiz personna such as Cilla will NEVER have been exposed to the very real and wicked realities purpotrated by mcKenzie and his ilk. For that reason just as I would never dream for one moment of condemning those 'missing thousands of Reds' for failing to demonstrate their support for the families at the sparsely attended annual remembrance services in those early 'wilderness' years I would correspondingly not deem it appropriate to presume that someone such as Cilla cow-towed with a c*nt like Mckenzie whilst knowing full well just how heinous a creature he was, just what the implications of what he'd done were and just how much suffering they had inflicted on the families and so many Liverpudlians.

Hopefully, that makes it clearer why I just don't accept that such condemnation is as warranted as you see it. There's certainly woeful character judgement on her behalf but I see it stemming more from ignorance on her part than any wilful support of a c*nt like mcKenzie and certainly no wilful slight against the Hillsborough victims and families or Liverpool/Liverpudlians. 
You're absolutely right. My point was essentially she knew who he was. You're right as well, as to whether she cared or even knew that much of why he should be avoided.
There is a different mindset involved for people within that industry. What they are aware of and whats deemed acceptable/normal is often miles apart from people who aren't in the middle of it.

I think it stems from the fact that in doing the promotional stuff, sitting down with journalists, doing tv shows, just endless interviews and meeting people, it all blurs. Why would they actually ask, know or care who any of them actually were.

So I think to a great degree if they meet someone like him, even in social situations, its just someone else on the circuit. Another complete fake to shake hands with make small talk with and then forget. They view what they do as work, which it is, but in terms of this is shit they do to earn and so they view everyone else as the same 'oh he's just doing the same as me and I doubt he cares about anything else I stand for or believe, just as much as I'm not interested in anything about he really thinks or says' I doubt very much for the majority of them that their thought processes even go that far.

Personally I am not really arsed about her. I didn't know her, I didn't particularly like her public persona or what she did. Which is why I have no problem making jokes about her now she is dead. I mean I wouldn't have a problem doing it if she was alive. Even less now she is dead. She certainly didn't care what some nobody thought about her when she was alive, defo doesn't now.
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #105 on: August 5, 2015, 02:46:21 pm »
You're absolutely right. My point was essentially she knew who he was. You're right as well, as to whether she cared or even knew that much of why he should be avoided.
There is a different mindset involved for people within that industry. What they are aware of and whats deemed acceptable/normal is often miles apart from people who aren't in the middle of it.

I think it stems from the fact that in doing the promotional stuff, sitting down with journalists, doing tv shows, just endless interviews and meeting people, it all blurs. Why would they actually ask, know or care who any of them actually were.

So I think to a great degree if they meet someone like him, even in social situations, its just someone else on the circuit. Another complete fake to shake hands with make small talk with and then forget. They view what they do as work, which it is, but in terms of this is shit they do to earn and so they view everyone else as the same 'oh he's just doing the same as me and I doubt he cares about anything else I stand for or believe, just as much as I'm not interested in anything about he really thinks or says' I doubt very much for the majority of them that their thought processes even go that far.


Yeah - interesting insightful stuff M. I think we're pretty much saying similar things just coming at it from slightly different directions and attaching different importance to what it actually means in a wider context. In the final analysis, they basically don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. Then again I'm sad to say that's par for the course for most people these days. In fact, maybe it's always been the case except in that initial post war decade or two when that 'pulling together' wartime spirit was still pretty much intact before American led consumerism had smashed it to fucking pieces.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #106 on: August 5, 2015, 03:48:00 pm »
I find it strange the council had the flag at half mast and there was a book on condolences.
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #107 on: August 9, 2015, 08:24:09 pm »
I find it strange the council had the flag at half mast and there was a book on condolences.
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« Reply #108 on: August 9, 2015, 09:23:13 pm »
You know much as i didn't like her as a person i do think we put people up on Pedestals and forget they are just like us with feet of clay.
A world were Liars and Hypocrites are accepted and rewarded and honest people are derided!
Who voted in this lying corrupt bastard anyway

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #110 on: August 10, 2015, 06:28:29 pm »
Couple of points on cilla. 

She loved the city, loved the people, loved this football club.

Did she ever follow this club as much as the rest of us, probably not, probably not as avidly as other celeb reds either, but follow us she did.

She was approached by the sun to raise money for the families the day after the disaster.   I don't know if kelvin was part of that approach but she agreed to help.  I don't know if she knew what was reported by that shit rag a few days later.  I very much doubt it. Would she have connected the dots years later, again I very much doubt it, and doubt she even know who the other celebs who she would be dining with would be. 

As for politics, I know lots of women my mums age who are clueless about politics even though it resulted in their hubbies on the dole, milk taken from their children, yet despite all that what quite a few women saw was a strong woman fighting in a male dominated occupation and kicking arse. Liked or loathed there is a respect for her, as a woman.  You have to understand for most women cilla's age their life was supposed to be wife's and mothers, without much of a voice, and that's it and for most thats all it was. For cilla it was living in a flat above a barber shop with hardly a penny to her name.  I've no doubt she like many others have the meryl Streep version of thatcher and not the one those who follow politics a bit more closer would see.

As for leaving the city, she did, along with every other celeb of the time.  She didn't alter her accent, though others did, didn't try and shrug off her Liverpool past, she was proud of it.

Professional scousers, fucking hate that shite, that's the same kind of bollox as self pity city, another pop at a collective us.  It's funny really, cilla was part of a group of people, the made the rest of the nation wannabe scouse.  From mop tops and faux scouse accents.

I gotta lotta respect for cilla, as a performer who span generations, as a woman, as a scoucer.


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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #111 on: August 10, 2015, 06:38:05 pm »
I gotta lorra lorra respect for cilla, as a performer who span generations, as a woman, as a scoucer.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #112 on: August 10, 2015, 09:48:03 pm »
I don't know if she knew what was reported by that shit rag a few days later.  I very much doubt it.

I don't really have any opinion on her, but I would find that incredible, almost unfathomable. I was born in 1984 and before I was old enough to properly understand what Hillsborough was, I knew that you didn't go near the sun. The repulsion towards it is so absolute that it's almost not even discussed because there's no need for discussion, you just don't see it. I was in Glasgow yesterday and was in a room in a building that had papers on the table, I'm sure typical of thousands up and down the country. It always gives me that little shock seeing the sun on top of that little pile of complimentary papers just because as I say, you don't see it here. For her to not realise what they did, she would have to have no connection to the city at all anymore. Maybe she didn't, I don't really care either way. But I'd be amazed if she didn't know.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #113 on: August 11, 2015, 12:10:04 am »
She still had a connection to the city, my then girlfriend now wife worked in an old people's nursing home from about 92 onwards and amongst some of it's more famous residents were Cilla's mum and the legend that is Billy Liddell. I know nothing of Cilla herself, never liked her music or her voice and never cared for her public persona on tv but my wife never had a good word to say about her, still that's no basis for any judgement of her, the truth is we don't really know anybody....christ i barely know myself.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #114 on: August 11, 2015, 09:04:10 am »

As for politics, I know lots of women my mums age who are clueless about politics even though it resulted in their hubbies on the dole, milk taken from their children, yet despite all that what quite a few women saw was a strong woman fighting in a male dominated occupation and kicking arse. Liked or loathed there is a respect for her, as a woman.  You have to understand for most women cilla's age their life was supposed to be wife's and mothers, without much of a voice, and that's it and for most thats all it was. For cilla it was living in a flat above a barber shop with hardly a penny to her name.  I've no doubt she like many others have the meryl Streep version of thatcher and not the one those who follow politics a bit more closer would see.


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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #115 on: August 18, 2015, 03:25:02 pm »
Funeral in Liverpool.
I feel sorry for anyone who lives in the vicinity.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #116 on: August 19, 2015, 10:07:19 am »
I live down the road from St Marys church and we have had a letter from a council "Event Manager" listing all the road closures etc. which start at 6am. Was also talking to the gravedigger who bevvies around Woolton and he was saying people have been there all week, tarting it up, getting bigger speakers etc. It is going to be rammed as the church is very nice but pretty small and the roads around it are also small and very busy.

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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #117 on: August 19, 2015, 04:08:56 pm »
I respect your view but I simply cannot share it mate.

Cilla was no dumbo and she HAD to have been aware of what Thatcher was at yet turned a blind eye . Unforgiveable - especially as me and her might have been related down the track a ways!!

I spoke to my mum about this yesterday.

As I've said, her dad knew Cilla very well in her early days.

Her words were quite funny. She said, what you've got to remember is that she's as thick as pig shit (which was funny as my mum never swears).  People as thick as her think that having money means you vote Tory, being poor means you vote labour.

I think she's pretty much spot on, I reckon it was that simple for her.
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #118 on: August 19, 2015, 05:18:25 pm »
Didn't you mean got money vote Tory, got none vote Labour?
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Re: RIP Cilla Black
« Reply #119 on: August 19, 2015, 05:19:34 pm »
Didn't you mean got money vote Tory, got none vote Labour?

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