Author Topic: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez (Read 775126 times)

Halcyon Lissome · « **Reply #640 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:16:15 pm »

Quote from: SMASHerano on August 30, 2015, 11:57:28 am

And I don't think we looked solid at the back at all against Bournemouth or Arsenal. Both teams struck the post and had numerous chances to score due to defensive lapses and mistakes. Only against Stoke that we didn't look as threatened (even though Johnson could've scored as well).

Shots on goal =/= real chances. Bournemouth barely troubled us, resorting to shooting from outside the box (that post being a result of one. Similar against Arsenal where the Sanchez post and the Giroud save was about it for them - and they usually dominate and create tonnes of chances at home - instead, we had had more and better chances.

It's easy to be negative if that's what you're setting out to be.

LFC UNTIL THE MANAGER IS NO LONGER DESERVING OF MY SYMPATHY · « **Reply #641 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:37:50 pm »

Quote from: SMASHerano on August 30, 2015, 11:26:32 am

I'd love to see what he and Sakho would do as the CB pairing. But that's never gonna happen in a million years with Rodgers' blind trust in Sktrel and Lovren.

Think Ilori deserves a shot at CB before Gomez at CB.

Phil M · « **Reply #642 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:41:31 pm »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on August 30, 2015, 11:50:03 am

The manager stuck with a defence that has looked particularly solid, something which as constantly being levelled at him as not being good enough.

I didn't particularly think a right footed CB playing at LB was needed at home to West Ham yesterday, but to suggest that the defence he put out was due to 'blind faith' is just plain wrong.

The back 4 Rodgers selected yesterday was based on form and 3 clean sheets in a row, blind faith doesn't come in to it.

Correct. We win yesterday no matter how ugly and I guarantee no one would be complaining or making a point of this.

Chris~ · « **Reply #643 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:45:24 pm »

Quote from: LFC4LIFENET on August 30, 2015, 12:37:50 pm

Think Ilori deserves a shot at CB before Gomez at CB.

Without seeing them in training it's hard to really argue for Ilori as he's not played a game for us yet. Ilori's apparently been alright on his two loans, but Gomez has had preseason and competitive games for us where he's done well, that surely counts for more.

-Willo- · « **Reply #644 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:47:14 pm »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on August 30, 2015, 11:50:03 am

The manager stuck with a defence that has looked particularly solid, something which as constantly being levelled at him as not being good enough.

I didn't particularly think a right footed CB playing at LB was needed at home to West Ham yesterday, but to suggest that the defence he put out was due to 'blind faith' is just plain wrong.

The back 4 Rodgers selected yesterday was based on form and 3 clean sheets in a row, blind faith doesn't come in to it.

2 clean sheets against Bournemouth and Arsenal on the back of two errors from the referees, Bournemouth scored a perfectly good goal as did Arsenal. Such a flawed statement, we literally fluked our way to those.

SMASHerano · « **Reply #645 on:** August 30, 2015, 01:15:57 pm »

Quote from: Halcyon Lissome on August 30, 2015, 12:16:15 pm

Shots on goal =/= real chances. Bournemouth barely troubled us, resorting to shooting from outside the box (that post being a result of one. Similar against Arsenal where the Sanchez post and the Giroud save was about it for them - and they usually dominate and create tonnes of chances at home - instead, we had had more and better chances.

It's easy to be negative if that's what you're setting out to be.

Apart from the time when they scored from a corner off Lovren's mistake only for the referee to incorrectly rule it out. I say incorrectly ruled out because if it was us that got a goal ruled out like that I would've been livid (like that goal in 2007-08 at home to Stoke).

I could be super positive too but I'd rather be realistic.

SMASHerano · « **Reply #646 on:** August 30, 2015, 01:16:55 pm »

Quote from: LFC4LIFENET on August 30, 2015, 12:37:50 pm

Think Ilori deserves a shot at CB before Gomez at CB.

At this point, I'd try any of them to be honest.

LFC UNTIL THE MANAGER IS NO LONGER DESERVING OF MY SYMPATHY · « **Reply #647 on:** August 30, 2015, 01:30:31 pm »

Quote from: Chris~ on August 30, 2015, 12:45:24 pm

Without seeing them in training it's hard to really argue for Ilori as he's not played a game for us yet. Ilori's apparently been alright on his two loans, but Gomez has had preseason and competitive games for us where he's done well, that surely counts for more.

Ilori is older, more experienced, did well on loan when he was fit.

I like Gomez, think he is a good options through out the back four. But if I was Ilori and saw someone leap frog me, before getting a chance myself, I'd be miffed.

keyo · « **Reply #648 on:** August 30, 2015, 01:40:08 pm »

Tougher game for him, but same can be said for all the defenders. He still looked assured throughout. And as he develops i look forward to seeing him at centre half. Pace, calm on the ball, good awareness and stays on his feet. He (and sakho) are the type of player we need defensively. Strong, solid, assured and positive. We need to play positively from the back with a reasonably high line to press the game into the opposition half.

Art Vandelay · « **Reply #649 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:00:21 pm »

He's not going to be utterly consistant at his age, and with his current level of experience. It's a shocking dereliction of duty from the manager/transfer committee that he's effectively our only trusted left back though.

Smudgester · « **Reply #650 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:03:39 pm »

You needs to stop constantly cutting in rather than going down the flank.

wemmick · « **Reply #651 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:09:31 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on August 30, 2015, 03:03:39 pm

You needs to stop constantly cutting in rather than going down the flank.

I'd think that is true across the board. The whole team needs much more discipline in the offensive third.

Chakan · « **Reply #652 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:14:33 pm »

Quote from: Smudgester on August 30, 2015, 03:03:39 pm

You needs to stop constantly cutting in rather than going down the flank.

Pretty sure he doesn't read RAWK

Plus he's a right footed player playing on the left, so cutting back inside sets the ball up on his right foot for the cross. He needs to work on crossing with his left foot to go down the flank.

Endoe · « **Reply #653 on:** August 31, 2015, 01:34:55 am »

Three games in he was the second coming of Maldini, one loss and going by comments im surprised he gets a game

Lemieux · « **Reply #654 on:** August 31, 2015, 02:30:22 am »

He was always going to be inconsistent so I can't say I was surprised by the bad performance. Moreno should start for us from here on in though. Gomez at LB is too defensive for the team that we should aspire to be. Playing a CB at FB makes sense if the other FB is attack minded, but Clyne is more of a balanced FB and does not add enough to our attack. It makes us very easy to defend against right now with no real width on either side of the pitch.

On top of that our quality centrally isn't good enough to play this way. We need to open the pitch up more.. That said I actually fully expect the back 4 to remain unchanged. Brendan will probably say three clean sheets in a row, one bad game doesn't cancel all that.. It's the wrong decision in my opinion.

Redinho · « **Reply #655 on:** August 31, 2015, 03:48:03 am »

Well we have now seen his defensive abilities when he played so well against arsenal, and also his offensive limitations being a right footed center half playing left back against a team parking the bus. I think maybe he would be best used game specific? Also, didn't do well for the first goal.

Obviously with that being said he is a young lad and can grow massively which is great for us in the future. I just wonder short term when we need someone a bit more fluent on the left against teams sitting back maybe play Moreno?

RedHopper · « **Reply #656 on:** September 3, 2015, 03:12:54 pm »

I must say that I'm very impressed with what I've seen so far. He looks very poised, which is always good. Lets not dump all of our hopes and fears on his shoulders at the age of 18, and lets give him a chance to develop, without overhyping him because we're desperate, and then turning on him when he can't immediately live up to our insane expectations.

The Klapp · « **Reply #657 on:** September 5, 2015, 12:51:23 pm »

Play him CB ahead of Lovren pls Brendan, we all know you don't rate Sakho & you only wanna play players who were your idea.

WidnesJon · « **Reply #658 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:43:35 pm »

Out for the season according to the beeb. Shite news for the lad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34534378

Cheers
Jon

piiit · « **Reply #659 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:45:41 pm »

Fucking terrible news that, was one of the players that I thought would shine.. oh well, time is on his side.

itsgunnabebarnes! · « **Reply #660 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:45:41 pm »

What a real shame

livesound · « **Reply #661 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:46:05 pm »

Fuck off. Put a downer on me that.

Be well Joe

Zeb · « **Reply #662 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:47:07 pm »

Poor lad. Good luck to him coming back from it.

edge · « **Reply #663 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:47:09 pm »

Kinell. Everything was going so well for him as well.

England really is a curse.

jonnypb · « **Reply #664 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:50:18 pm »

Gutted, this is the type of player that could thrive under klopp. He'll be back though

TrueNorthRED · « **Reply #665 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:50:25 pm »

Damn it. I was really looking forward to his progression under Klopp this year. Speedy recovery Joe!

Number 7 · « **Reply #666 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:50:43 pm »

Fucking terrible. Feel for the lad.

Just when we thought everyone had come back unscathed. Feels so fucking pointless.

ThePeetmix · « **Reply #667 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:51:04 pm »

(((((((

HeartAndSoul · « **Reply #668 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:52:12 pm »

Hate international breaks. I'm sure he'll come back stronger and more determined

merseymack · « **Reply #669 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:54:49 pm »

Does my fucking head in. U 21's should not be getting fucking injured. Shitty England gob shites. rant over.

GregCharrua · « **Reply #670 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:56:22 pm »

Do players have trouble coming back from this sort of injury?

planet-terror · « **Reply #671 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:56:59 pm »

Gutted for the lad. All the best joe.

El Lobo · « **Reply #672 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:57:02 pm »

That really does suck

MrBoywunder · « **Reply #673 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:57:13 pm »

What a shame and no surprise it happens while playing for England.

Dortmund wanted him in the summer so no doubt Klopp knew of him last season. Hopefully comes back stronger.

Zaffarious · « **Reply #674 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:58:32 pm »

fucking england go fck off. jesus

SwordInYourGut · « **Reply #675 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:58:36 pm »

Quote from: GregCharrua on October 14, 2015, 07:56:22 pm

Do players have trouble coming back from this sort of injury?

Very much so. Some never return to their best, but most take about 2 years before reaching quite close to their peak levels.

Carra-ton · « **Reply #676 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:59:00 pm »

Quote from: GregCharrua on October 14, 2015, 07:56:22 pm

Do players have trouble coming back from this sort of injury?

Usually with the modern science they do fix things a proper.
Also he is young, will heal fast. It no longer is like a few years back when I think Owen had the acl rupture and lost almost all his pace.

Alf · « **Reply #677 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:59:14 pm »

Real pisser for the lad, gutted for him.

Number 7 · « **Reply #678 on:** October 14, 2015, 07:59:20 pm »

Quote from: merseymack on October 14, 2015, 07:54:49 pm

Does my fucking head in. U 21's should not be getting fucking injured. Shitty England gob shites. rant over.

Didn't they try and make him stand up and walk on it? How can their physios not recognize a possible ACL injury? Or even a suspicion of it?

SerbianScouser · « **Reply #679 on:** October 14, 2015, 08:00:23 pm »

Quote from: Number 7 on October 14, 2015, 07:59:20 pm

Didn't they try and make him stand up and walk on it? How can their physios not recognize a possible ACL injury? Or even a suspicion of it?

Ours did the same with Lucas.