Author Topic: Tiago Ilori (Read 45144 times)

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #120 on:** July 12, 2015, 12:36:06 am »

Quote from: The Infamous_LFC on July 12, 2015, 12:10:07 am

not saying he was completely faultless during that run of games but that was deffo his best performances In a red shirt yet imo. Much better than the nervous wreck we saw at the start of the season.

Bolasie will skin 99% of defenders in Europe. He is very skillful and direct.

Are you taking the piss?

The Infamous_LFC · « **Reply #121 on:** July 12, 2015, 12:48:19 am »

Quote from: Kopenhagen on July 12, 2015, 12:36:06 am

Are you taking the piss?

I guess you are referring to Bolasie? Not many more skillful players out there. Probably about 5-10 in the world. I'm dead serious.

cptrios · « **Reply #122 on:** July 12, 2015, 03:20:11 am »

I assume he's not on the tour because of the U21s?

rlpolobear9 · « **Reply #123 on:** July 12, 2015, 03:50:12 pm »

This kid reminds me of Varane at Real he needs to play behind a dominant DM and next to a more physical CB to reach a elite level. Big erme and skrtel would make a great pairing for this season

Reds Flag · « **Reply #124 on:** July 12, 2015, 03:59:22 pm »

Quote from: cptrios on July 12, 2015, 03:20:11 am

I assume he's not on the tour because of the U21s?

Yes, he has extended hols, but I hope that he gets the chance to show what he can do this season.

Tony19:6 · « **Reply #125 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:11:00 pm »

Hope the lad gets his chance this season, havent seen a great deal of him, but does look promising.

bigbear · « **Reply #126 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:22:22 pm »

We've got to keep him with us this season and play him in the UEFA Cup as a minimum. We can review it at Christmas but for me, 8-10 games for us will tell us more about him than sending him away for someone else to use/not use him.

This lad is absolutely rapid and has real good quality. His defending is decent and he reminds me of a young Rio Ferdinand in his defensive work. He would probably need to play alongside a dominant Vidic type centre back but as one of 5 centre backs we must invest time in these lads.

2 years ago Sterling was a question mark, now we are selling him for 50m quid. This kid has got great potential and we have to give him a go. The UEFA Cup is absolutely perfect for him, what's the point of playing Kolo Toure in front of him.

BigRedJim · « **Reply #127 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:52:50 pm »

Just seen him having a 'cheeky nandos' in L1

bigbear · « **Reply #128 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:53:47 pm »

Quote from: BigRedJim on July 12, 2015, 04:52:50 pm

Just seen him having a 'cheeky nandos' in L1

It's nice that he is around the City, it can't be a bad thing re his long term future.

dosx · « **Reply #129 on:** July 13, 2015, 01:52:25 am »

Hoping to see him in action this season with us.

LiamG · « **Reply #130 on:** July 13, 2015, 07:07:06 am »

Think he will go on loan to an english club personally

killer-heels · « **Reply #131 on:** July 13, 2015, 09:13:25 am »

Think he needs a loan first. Didnt look particularly special in the u21 tournament.

Redrider · « **Reply #132 on:** July 13, 2015, 09:22:25 am »

Should be converted into a defensive mid-fielder, needs experience out on loan with a 'Bolton or Burnley' to learn the trade and get roughed up a bit.
Otherwise sell and move on, he has not got the stature for a Central Defender and will be overpowered in the Premier League.

DeLeiva · « **Reply #133 on:** July 13, 2015, 09:46:53 am »

Quote from: Redrider on July 13, 2015, 09:22:25 am

Should be converted into a defensive mid-fielder, needs experience out on loan with a 'Bolton or Burnley' to learn the trade and get roughed up a bit.
Otherwise sell and move on, he has not got the stature for a Central Defender and will be overpowered in the Premier League.

One inch shorter but 4 kilos heavier than Raphael Varane.

Have a wobble lad.

Quote from: killer_heels on July 13, 2015, 09:13:25 am

Think he needs a loan first. Didnt look particularly special in the u21 tournament.

Really? I thought he looked very calm and composed in defence, any time he was out of position he had more than enough pace
to recover. Distributed the ball from the back well, hit a couple of perfectly weighted cross field Hollywood passes.

Thought he did very well.

MD1990 · « **Reply #134 on:** July 13, 2015, 12:17:45 pm »

Ilori in the few games I seen him for Granada & Bordeaux was very good. He was superb vs Barca in 2014 too.

DanA · « **Reply #135 on:** July 16, 2015, 09:13:20 am »

Ilori tweeted: "Just killed everything in this gym for 5 hours 😏 ima give these weights a rest day tomorrow 💪"

Thought it was quite funny

rickardinho1 · « **Reply #136 on:** July 16, 2015, 04:32:49 pm »

Quote from: DanA on July 16, 2015, 09:13:20 am

Ilori tweeted: "Just killed everything in this gym for 5 hours 😏 ima give these weights a rest day tomorrow 💪"

Thought it was quite funny

Haha, thats funny! I question the logic of gyming for 5 hours straight though

The Infamous_LFC · « **Reply #137 on:** July 16, 2015, 09:12:34 pm »

Good stuff once he fills out his frame he will be top class. Hope he gets a chance ahead of Toure and Lovren, if Sakho or Skrtel can't play.

Vund · « **Reply #138 on:** July 22, 2015, 06:29:51 pm »

Quote from: Reds Flag on July 12, 2015, 03:59:22 pm

Yes, he has extended hols, but I hope that he gets the chance to show what he can do this season.

I saw a quote from his father saying he was supposed to be going on preseason tour. Maybe that was before Portugal got to the final. I am really hopeful he will get a chance this year. I'm still hoping to see his fabled pace.

Chig · « **Reply #139 on:** July 22, 2015, 06:42:59 pm »

Is he back at Melwood yet??

CraigDS · « **Reply #140 on:** July 22, 2015, 06:43:44 pm »

Quote from: Chig on July 22, 2015, 06:42:59 pm

Is he back at Melwood yet??

He's been going in and doing gym work for a bit, not sure if he was doing anything with the ball until this week though when everyone else can back.

Chig · « **Reply #141 on:** July 22, 2015, 06:59:46 pm »

Really hope he gets a chance this season.

Grobbelrevell · « **Reply #142 on:** July 23, 2015, 12:25:09 pm »

Quote from: bigbear on July 12, 2015, 04:22:22 pm

...what's the point of playing Kolo Toure in front of him.

This is the key point with Ilori, for me.

From the limited appearances we've seen so far it looks as though Gomez is being viewed in a full back role this season. I'm expecting similar for Wisdom as well, which leaves Skrtel as the first choice right-sided central defender, and Toure and Ilori in behind him. I like Kolo Toure. By all accounts he's a positive influence around the club, and with the younger players. His experience is a good thing to have around Melwood. No doubts about that. But to play him at this stage of his career, in preference to a very promising 22 year old seems short-sighted. Especially a 22 year old who (on the face of it) offers all of the attributes that should make him an ideal fit for a Brendan Rodgers Liverpool team. The lad's played top flight football in Portugal, France and Spain now, along with an under-21 European Championships and he's not looked out of his depth at any point. If he's not getting his chance now then I struggle to see when he gets it.

Did he sign the contract extension that was being mooted a couple of weeks back?

rickardinho1 · « **Reply #143 on:** July 23, 2015, 04:02:25 pm »

Quote from: Grobbelrevell on July 23, 2015, 12:25:09 pm

This is the key point with Ilori, for me.

From the limited appearances we've seen so far it looks as though Gomez is being viewed in a full back role this season. I'm expecting similar for Wisdom as well, which leaves Skrtel as the first choice right-sided central defender, and Toure and Ilori in behind him. I like Kolo Toure. By all accounts he's a positive influence around the club, and with the younger players. His experience is a good thing to have around Melwood. No doubts about that. But to play him at this stage of his career, in preference to a very promising 22 year old seems short-sighted. Especially a 22 year old who (on the face of it) offers all of the attributes that should make him an ideal fit for a Brendan Rodgers Liverpool team. The lad's played top flight football in Portugal, France and Spain now, along with an under-21 European Championships and he's not looked out of his depth at any point. If he's not getting his chance now then I struggle to see when he gets it.

Did he sign the contract extension that was being mooted a couple of weeks back?

Remains to be seen whether Toure will be our #4 or #5 CB but we'll find out soon enough I guess.

I wouldn't be surprised if Toure's contract was extended earlier in the summer on the premise that he would be a leader off the pitch but not see much game time ahead of Ilori. Maybe he'll get to captain a young EL/cup side playing next to Ilori actually. Looking forward to find out either way, but as you say I hope Ilori gets his chance.

Chig · « **Reply #144 on:** July 23, 2015, 04:16:31 pm »

My question is: If BR is happy to keep Joe (age of just 18) around the first team to compete for a place and yet he sent Ilori out last season for loan. Is it because Ilori is less of a player than Joe now, or is it because Ilori is less adapted to the EPL (which made the Bordeaux loan completely pointless), or just because Joe can play in full back position??

ThePeetmix · « **Reply #145 on:** July 23, 2015, 04:20:22 pm »

Quote from: Chig on July 23, 2015, 04:16:31 pm

My question is: If BR is happy to keep Joe (age of just 18) around the first team to compete for a place and yet he sent Ilori out last season for loan. Is it because Ilori is less of a player than Joe now, or is it because Ilori is less adapted to the EPL (which made the Bordeaux loan completely pointless), or just because Joe can play in full back position??

Basically yes. If Gomez couldn't play CB, I have no doubt he'd be going out on loan too and Ilori would be ahead of him in the pecking order.

incredibleL4ever · « **Reply #146 on:** July 23, 2015, 04:31:19 pm »

Quote from: Chig on July 23, 2015, 04:16:31 pm

My question is: If BR is happy to keep Joe (age of just 18) around the first team to compete for a place and yet he sent Ilori out last season for loan. Is it because Ilori is less of a player than Joe now, or is it because Ilori is less adapted to the EPL (which made the Bordeaux loan completely pointless), or just because Joe can play in full back position??

We have 4 CB's, we are short of FB's.

Phil M · « **Reply #147 on:** July 23, 2015, 04:36:54 pm »

Seb Coates mark II

LFC UNTIL THE MANAGER IS NO LONGER DESERVING OF MY SYMPATHY · « **Reply #148 on:** July 23, 2015, 04:43:59 pm »

He needs a chance, he's got the talent.

Whether he'll get one or not is another question.

markschema · « **Reply #149 on:** July 23, 2015, 08:13:38 pm »

I'd guess Ilori will be back up to Skrtel alongside Toure depending on the game. For example, a difficult high pressure game may call for a steady experienced head to cover rather than youth and visa versa. It allows Rodgers to control Ilori's development better than if he was forced to play him regardless.

Plenty of room for both.

Chig · « **Reply #150 on:** July 24, 2015, 04:49:13 am »

Still haven't seen a picture of him back at Melwood yet?? Did we sell him already without anyone notice??? Remember last interview BR mentioned player will come back to Melwood after extended leave, he named everyone but Ilori..... worrying sign.......

Keith Lard · « **Reply #151 on:** July 24, 2015, 06:39:40 am »

Just saw him in home and bargain filling his basket full of smokey bacon bensons

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #152 on:** July 24, 2015, 09:03:05 am »

Quote from: Phil M on July 23, 2015, 04:36:54 pm

Seb Coates mark II

hope he doesnt do his acl....think that alongside bad management of his game time ruined any chance seba had.

seen enough fo ilori 2 years ago to know he is good enough.

needs a run of games (as all centre backs do) to understand their partner and the system.
if they are quality they then start to improve their game....or should do.

no real wya of knowing unless he gets familiarity and with gametime.

Fordy · « **Reply #153 on:** July 24, 2015, 11:12:00 am »

A really good player but I think he will be sent out on loan again for another season.

Gnurglan · « **Reply #154 on:** July 24, 2015, 11:40:00 am »

Quote from: killer_heels on July 13, 2015, 09:13:25 am

Think he needs a loan first. Didnt look particularly special in the u21 tournament.

Portugal had a really good defence and he was part of it. No worries. I reckon we could have him as 3rd pick CB this season, but easily 4th pick. Certainly with Can, Wisdom and Gomez around.

Ideally, I'd try and have him off on a short loan, say 1-2 months and then bring him back and play him. Or I'd start him in the EL and the League Cup, in at least a couple of games. It's time to see what he can do.

The Woolster · « **Reply #155 on:** July 24, 2015, 12:34:25 pm »

Quote from: Chig on July 24, 2015, 04:49:13 am

Still haven't seen a picture of him back at Melwood yet?? Did we sell him already without anyone notice??? Remember last interview BR mentioned player will come back to Melwood after extended leave, he named everyone but Ilori..... worrying sign.......

I wondered about this, but then realised that he probably gets a few more days than Can as Portugal played in the final and Germany knocked out in the semis. Think there was 3 days between those matches, so maybe Illori will be back in today.

Melbred · « **Reply #156 on:** July 24, 2015, 02:16:57 pm »

Nevermind Toure, I'd give him a chance over the likes of Lovren.

Coming up to the age where games will be important in his development.

Max_powers · « **Reply #157 on:** July 24, 2015, 02:18:24 pm »

The thing is we have been so poor in defense that even if he makes mistakes he still probably won't be worse than players we have.

Saul Goodman · « **Reply #158 on:** July 25, 2015, 03:44:15 pm »

I remember reading reports of a new contract offer about a month back but I think since that initial leak to the press nothing more has been said about him. I presume he is one of the players due to join up with the tour in the coming week?

CraigDS · « **Reply #159 on:** July 25, 2015, 03:47:36 pm »

Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 25, 2015, 03:44:15 pm

I remember reading reports of a new contract offer about a month back but I think since that initial leak to the press nothing more has been said about him. I presume he is one of the players due to join up with the tour in the coming week?

Sure those rumours said it would be looked at when he returned to training, which was only last week and the majority of the club were away on the tour.

I'm sure it'll be discussed this summer when the club look at the various options for the next stage of his development.