Thursday 15th April 2004?

[Stevo]

National boycott the S*n day?

Is now the time to start thinking about promoting it and getting a few things prepared?

Ideas? Suggestions?

[Gunga Din]

i dont know if this has been done before or not, but would it be an idea to issue a press releaseto all the other tabloids, regarding the boycott, how Liverpool fans will always continue to Boycott the rag. this may make other people who are unaware about the boycott not buy it, and also educate younger Liverpool fans, who for whatever reason may not be aware of the Boycott. this will bring us national attention, plus (a cynical point of view) will enable other tabloids to have a go at one of their biggest rivals.

[Filler.]

Stevo... do you have a good quality image of that poster at all?

[connaught]

What about some online promotion to make other clubs (communities) aware of the campaign. 

According to statistics in January there were over 100,000 searches for the s*n newspaper on the Internet from UK users.  Most probably have never heard of the boycott.

www.s*n-boycott.co.uk is available by the way!

[Murf]

On the day of the boycott
Iwould like to see all the other
tabloids keep the prices the same
as normal,not use it as a chance to jump on the bandwagon for some extra sales
And also does not give the s*n an excuse
their sales were down because of other papers promotions

NEVER BUY THE S*N
SCUMRAG OF THE YEAR

 

[tommy-]

What about some online promotion to make other clubs (communities) aware of the campaign. 

According to statistics in January there were over 100,000 searches for the s*n newspaper on the Internet from UK users.  Most probably have never heard of the boycott.

www.s*n-boycott.co.uk is available by the way!

I'd be willing to put together a website if someone was willing to take care of all the writing side of things.

[connaught]

I am more than happy to help promote the site and give any assistance to wrtiing pages and anything else that might help the campaign.  Also happy to pay for hosting of the site and give donations towards promotion.

[tommy-]

I'd be able to sort hosting and stuff out. Promotion, after it's submited to a few search engines/websites it should sort it's self out. Best to keep it on the theme of educating so people can make their own mind up, rather than "telling" people they should boycott.

We could probably get it all up and running by the weekend. But I wanna know what everyone else thinks before we go ahead?

[wellsie82]

I'd be able to sort hosting and stuff out. Promotion, after it's submited to a few search engines/websites it should sort it's self out. Best to keep it on the theme of educating so people can make their own mind up, rather than "telling" people they should boycott.

We could probably get it all up and running by the weekend. But I wanna know what everyone else thinks before we go ahead?

think it's a very good idea but why not promote the current hillsborough site and promote it to other fans/forums and even the papers?

[wellsie82]

another pic ive found

[Life]

I'm always doing this and I always feel guilty because, of course, I've not done anything better...but...

That poster doesn't get over anything at all except "don't buy the Sun".  You have to understand the whole issue before you'll know why you shouldn't buy the sun, and to be honest, there's nothing there that would pique anyone's curiosity - certainly not people who aren't connected with Liverpool
Do you not think there needs to be something there along the lines of "we'll never forget your lies and never stop the boycott.  If you care about the truth, don't buy the S*n" - which isn't good enough at all, but is along the right lines.

[Curly Tom]

I'll put some posters up round Liverpool Uni, hand some flyers and stickers out, even plaster some stickers over the issues of the sun in the uni shop.

[wellsie82]

I'm always doing this and I always feel guilty because, of course, I've not done anything better...but...

That poster doesn't get over anything at all except "don't buy the Sun".  You have to understand the whole issue before you'll know why you shouldn't buy the sun, and to be honest, there's nothing there that would pique anyone's curiosity - certainly not people who aren't connected with Liverpool
Do you not think there needs to be something there along the lines of "we'll never forget your lies and never stop the boycott.  If you care about the truth, don't buy the S*n" - which isn't good enough at all, but is along the right lines.

for sure a poster/pic of a poster is no way enough

even if the hillsborough website is put about it isn't enough as many people just won't take the time or won't be bothered to go on there but the site has got to be used as a tool to educate people who are not aware of the fight for justice as well as the boycott of the rag

[connaught]

Promoting websites is what I do for a living and would be more than happy to help and advise the current hillsborough site or the boycott s*n campaign.

Targeting other teams message boards and cummunity sites would be an excellent way of building up awareness.   Trying to get other web masters to link to us will also benefit the site.

[Stevo]

Stevo... do you have a good quality image of that poster at all?

No mate. I just edited last years and changed the date.

[Rhi]

Why dont we get some leaflets printed out that explain briefly what happend at Hillsborough and the events afterwards - they have good ones in the HJC shop, so might jsut be a case of printing them. Then everyone here could go to their local shops and ask if they would mind not stocking the S*n on the 15th of April. Explain the hurt they caused and say that it's a national boycott of the S*n, then give them leaflets to give to people to show why they arent stocking it. If they dont want to do that then ask permission to put up a poster in the window or whatever saying "Dont Buy The Sun on 15th of April - Leaflets inside" and leave the leaflets so people can pick them up, and decide for themselves whether to join the boycott or not.

It would probably be quite successful in Liverpool, not so much so outside of the city, but even if one shop backs us, it's something. Longshot maybe, .

[allez_les_rouges]

How bot a mosaic of some sort in the lead up to the Boycott? perhaps media attention would allow people around the country to see, BOYCOTT THE SCUM.

[Stevo]

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[Roper]

I'll have a think about it stevo, ill get back to yer.

[Bannside Red]

How bot a mosaic of some sort in the lead up to the Boycott?

Good idea if it can be arranged.

[Stevo]

Mosaic is a no goer I think.

Club wouldn't be able to publicly endorse a boycott due to the legal problems it would create, and they won't acknowledge the HJC's role.

Seem to remember a few years back (1999 probably) fans handed out "Justice" cards about A4 size. It wasn't official but those fans who were given them held them up pre match. Something similar could maybe be done? A few years before that the club got involved and stuck cards on seats to press for a fresh inquiry and there was a mosaic with "96" on with two eternal flames eitherside.

[Throxenby]

How bot a mosaic of some sort in the lead up to the Boycott? perhaps media attention would allow people around the country to see, BOYCOTT THE SCUM.

how about something along the lines of

15/04/89 96 of ours lost their lives

17/04/89 the *** headlined their lies

it tells (not well) the reason that the boycott is in place

[laddo]

if someone from the HJC could write a press release explaining briefly why we boycott the s*n and about the boycott day then im sure the rest of us could make sure it gets to every tabloid, broadsheet, local and national newspaper editor, aswell as every football website and any magazines or publications which are relevant.

[IrishRed]

as highlighted above, no matter what is done, make sure that the HJC have given their blessing.  noone wants to bring any disrepute upon the HJC and one error (although unintentional) could undo some of the excellent work they have completed over the years.

having said that - if the HJC could give a start (through a press release or something along those lines) then others could carry it on.

the work the HJC do is unbelievable.  never mind just the shop but all the background work that goes on - and these people are volunteers - absolute superstars everyone of them yet they would loathe for you to call them that.

with that in mind, the individuals at the HJC can only do so much.  they are limited.  one person's passion and energy (no matter how great that may be) will only cover so much ground, whereas two people's passion and energy will cover that bit more and so on and so forth.

the feeling of the support towards the HJC on these boards is great, however i feel that if correctly channeled, that support could make a real difference.  with our support (and those on these boards) being based all over, the potential is massive.  individuals team up under the guidance of someone, we can target specific aims/goals on a geographical scale if needbe. 

i.e.

National Boycott the rag Day:  those based in england are spilt into regions/cities etc.  those in each city can be decided what course of action they are going to take and break the tasks down individually.  such as organising posting of letters to specific media outlets, organising of emails to specific people, contacting shops re: display of posters and not stocking the rag etc etc.

the same thing can be repeated for wales, scotland, n.ireland, r.ireland and further afield.

this could go along the lines of a 'steering group' whereby HJC is the head command (for want of a better word) and certain individuals or groups are responsible for coverage of particular area?  this way, rather than individual sporaic acts, everything would be co-ordinated and therefore have a much bigger impact on a larger scale.

i don't want what peoples thoughts are on this idea or if the HJC would want to follow such a path?

just in my opinion, every little helps and collectively we could make our voices heard.  i would be more than willing to help again in whatever way with any potential/future initatives.

[saph]

maybe also make reason for boycott wider? mate i quiz with hates the rag for the shite they spout about other issues - think foe incident and frank bruno incident.

[Stevo]

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[Mottman]

Haven't been to a meeting for 3 weeks or so what with work and other things.

This has been discussed and either John_Mac or myself will provide you with an update etc.

[jokka]

If we gets through in the UEFA we`ll be playing Inter at San Siro the 14th April. What about a mosaic in our end, saying JUSTICE or BOYCOTT THE S** The last one is maybe to much to organise.

[Ben S]

a masaic like that will never happen